• RedditSucks88@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Most people who own these crappy cars can’t even really afford them. Now they are in big trouble because they can’t get rid of them. Lol.

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    2 months ago

    Honestly? Might not be a bad idea to consider buying a used Tesla after they tank in value.

    1. No money goes to Elon in that exchange, so you’re not supporting the fascist prick. They made their money off the first buyer.

    2. It’s environmentally friendly to buy a used vehicle, rather than a new one, as you extend it’s life and reduce it’s carbon footprint

    3. Since everybody is abandoning them, they’re cheaper than other options.

    My only reservation is that I’d be driving around a Tesla still, so if I did something like this I’d have to de-brand the hell out of it somehow to make it appear as a generic “an car”.

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      Your heart’s in the right place but this is bad advice.

      Teslas are still wickedly expensive to repair and there’s only the dealership who can do those repairs.

      And the parts break way too often, even parts that shouldn’t break ever, like the door handles that only Tesla can replace. The cost of that can apparently be over $1k. For a door handle.

      It’d be a money pit after the warranty period runs out. You’re still going to be better off with a run of the mill beater car

      Until Tesla allows other shops to do repairs, those swastikars will never be economical even if you ignore the Nazi part

      Your point about buying used being better for the environment also applies to older gas powered cars too, which will be easier and cheaper to repair

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        Obligatory fuck elon before I write the rest of the comment.

        I have had a Tesla for 4 years now and as a car they are quite good (newer models got worse).

        Super cheap to run, no oil, no filters other than cabin air, no yearly dealership maintenance to keep the warranty. And you charge it at home, super cheap and convenient. (yeah, same applies for any other electric car).

        Repair costs (had a few fender benders) are comparable to my old BMW, maybe a bit lower. A door handle never broke on mine, but I just looked and found one on ebay for 15 EUR in case it breaks in the future. Can’t say it’s unreasonable. There’s simply less mechanical things to go wrong with the car, and over time the 3rd party shops can do almost everything, for a similar price to any other car. And if/when the battery ages (8 years warranty), you can still use it at home.

        Fun to drive, too, and quite efficient, more than most electric cars.

        Nowadays I would never buy one new, and even used it somewhat does rise the price of other Teslas, but I’m not planning to sell mine, I would lose quite a lot of money to end up with a similar car. I am in the market for a second car and it’s definitely going to be electric, but no chance for a Tesla.

  • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    I hope they lose money because they bought a 1939 Volkswagan with an electric motor on it, and then claimed

    Well how was I meant to know the man who lives on the internet 24/7 and can’t shut up about his opinions of women, non-whites, fascism, lgbt, and lies like he needs his pants to be warm for the winter, was somehow a bad guy? I bought a cool sticker, so I’m absolved of giving him any money :^)

    These people bought them because they thought he was a real life Tony Stark, especially the early models and Cybertrucks. I consider everyone driving in one a useful idiot for Trump and Musk.

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    Carvana bought mine at a decent price. I imagine the coming glut will have them refusing to buy Teslas outright. Other enraged Tesla owners should unload theirs asap.

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      2 months ago

      Good on you for having principles. Unfortunately a lot of Tesla owners are limp dicked piss baby champagne socialists who’d rather just put a 5 dollar sticker on their bumper instead of selling it.

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        Not everyone is the position to sell their car, especially at huge finacial loss. So they buy the stupid sticker to make them selves feel a little better.

        Many bought the thing 5+ years ago when Tesla was basically the only electric with a real charging network and in a time before Musk went from eccentric billionaire to an out-of-the-closet Nazi.

        Now anyone buying one new today, that’s a different story (Which makes it harder to sell the damn thing).

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          “huge financial loss”

          So why do these people buy these expensive cars they can’t afford in the first place?

          Surely they would’ve made a good financial decision and bought a used Toyota at a fraction of the price if their finances weren’t in order?

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            In 2012 a Ford Focus full Electric was almost $40,000 MSRP with a probable markup at just about any dealer in the country. The only thing that makes that kind of investment affordable is the tax break. The Tesla model 3 (in comparison) was around $25,000 MSRP in 2019. With a 3 year auto loan at 5-6% interest that cost is $31,760.50. The electric focus would have cost $49,305.44 for the same loan term and interest rate.

            And they can’t even sell these vehicles for bluebook value (assuming that the vehicle is paid off and they aren’t upside down on the loan for say a loan term of 5 or 7 years).

            A Mach e? Almost $39,000 MSRP. Chevy Bolt? $27,500 MSRP. Hyundai Ioniq? Almost $40,000 MSRP. Nissan Leaf is just over $29,000.

            There aren’t that many cars that are good financial decisions to be made in a market with so few options where range and ability to charge are majorly important to what you buy.

            Toyota’s Mirai isn’t even top rated and it starts at $52,000. So yes. Huge financial loss, and Tesla’s aren’t that expensive when compared to other brands (the cybercuck not included).

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          Why the fuck are you defending this shit?

          Also I am tired of hearing about how Musk only recently went insane, dude has been off the rails for as long as I can remember.

          Eccentric billionaire? My ass dude, he was an asshole and insane always for anyone paying at least a little bit of attention.

          It just finally caught up to him and now everyone wants to cry wolf that has been supporting him? Fuck off.

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            I didn’t think they were defending it. The reality is some people live in a bubble and don’t pay close attention to the media, and switching cars is not exactly an easy thing to do without getting fucked over.

            Many people are upside down on their car note, and when you trade in with negative equity on a car loan, that negative equity gets added to the new loan balance. It’s kind of a big deal for the average person.

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                Many bought the thing 5+ years ago when Tesla was basically the only electric with a real charging network…

                Until relatively recently, if you were an American who wanted to buy an electric car and wanted to guarantee you wouldn’t be stranded somewhere with a dead battery, Tesla was literally the only option.

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                  I had all of those things and didnt buy one as many others. Crazy that when you buy a car from a nazi lunatic things dont work out

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            With as strong and emotional you seem to feel about this topic, I sincerely hope you have never used an iPhone, used Facebook, bought a product off Amazon, taken an Uber ride, or consumed any Nestle products.

            If you’ve eaten a single hot pocket, you have no ground to stand on here.

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                I love that comic, but it’s unfortunately not applicable to this conversation. If anything, it’s more applicable in response to @MellowYellow13.

                This person is clearly being overly reactive to the situation and isn’t listening to reason. By all means, don’t buy a Tesla in the year of our lord 2025, but if you bought one in like 2019, that’s kind of irrelevant. Those people shouldn’t be punished for what they saw as an innocuous purchase at the time. To tell people they just straight up need to sell their car is asinine.

                I’m not saying “omg you participate in society, you’re just as bad”, moreso pointing out how absolutely ridiculous @MellowYellow13 's platform here is. Things that have already been done are irrelevant, let’s look to the future to improve things, no? If you’ve bought a Tesla in the past, it does not matter, just as if you’ve bought an iPhone, used Facebook, etc.

                You completely missed my message.

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            I do not have a problem with people owning Teslas sold before 2020 or so. Even buying an older one used is no big deal in my opinion. If you buy a 2021 Tesla today, none of that money goes to Musk. You are not agreeing with him. You are not propping him up.

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            What are you talking about? Most Tesla owners are progressives. This whole thing is a gut punch to Tesla owners.

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    For its part, Tesla has been trying to boost its image with the help of President Trump. On Monday, the president took to the South Lawn of the White House to promote Tesla’s cars, apparently buying one despite having campaigned on an explicitly anti-electric vehicle platform.

    Somehow, I don’t think MAGA cult will buy electric vehicles in quantities needed to offset even a fraction of people who used to buy Tesla.

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      Imagine the CEO of Browning or American Rifles helping Joe Biden pick out a new gun from a display in the state dining room.

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        The difference is Biden is a gun owner. So at least it would be buying a product he actually has. There has been incidents referencing him and his wife having at least a shotgun (so 2+ guns)

        With Trump hating on electric cars like he had for so long, and not knowing how to drive, it’s a bit different.

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      Half of them are broke as fuck and the other half are heavily invested in oil company stocks. Elon made a poor choice of allegiance.

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        A portion also associate EVs and their ilk with environmentalists, and would probably not buy one even if their very lives depended on it.

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    That would be good for the EV conversion market. Since they use a lot of Tesla motors and battery packs.

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    I shamefully admit I almost pulled the trigger on a Tesla Model S Plaid back in 2021 or 2022. Flush with a shit ton of cash, but fortunately I was reading reports of production build quality issues, many recalls, and ultimately pulled back my deposit.

    Looking back at it. The one decision I have no regrets on.

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      That’s the part I never understood. Even if you weren’t a Musk fan boy and before Musk showed his true colors, Telsa has always, ALWAYS been shit quality. I remember back in 2015, or so, there was a video of someone finally getting their Telsa and it had a massive crack running the length of the driver side A-pillar, yet they just ignored it.

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        The Roadsters were well-made. That was when production volumes were low and Musk hadn’t bought the company yet.

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        I’ll have to be honest and admit back when I was in high school or so, I was enthusiastic about electric cars and his seemed like some of the best. He was also opening up the charging standards so that there could be a mixed playing field. Back then, I was likely ready to dismiss small critiques as the retaliation of the fossil fuel industry.

        God I hate old me.

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          Tesla was a long way ahead of the competition for a very long time, to the point where they were the only option for a vehicle that was genuinely a replacement for a combustion vehicle.

          Without them, I very much doubt EV market share would be anywhere near what it is today.

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              Even now, the Leaf only goes 200 miles. Less than a 2018 Model 3. Not good enough.

              I agree, Tesla was the viable option fora long time. The charging network is part of that even still.

              The NACS connector is a big deal.

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    Ill give you $200 for the battery, the motor, and some chonky relays if you scrape the branding off.

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    Who will service those when Tesla goes out of business? Where will you get parts? Yeah, it’s time to jump ship

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      You can still get aftermarket parts for Pontiac vehicles. Then again Pontiac didn’t go around suing everyone who even thought about making aftermarket parts for their vehicles.

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      There are already aftermarket batteries. The biggest problem would be autobody panels.

      That said, while I hope Tesla stock continues to crash, not much chance of them going out of business.

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    For its part, Tesla has been trying to boost its image with the help of President Trump.

    Yeah, that’s part of the problem, Elon.