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Only one small mistake I see here. Assuming Nintendo will say please. The same amount of time it takes them to say please, you’ll blink and be in a courtroom facing piracy charges.
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I genuinely believe people will look back at this moment and wonder what Nintendo could have done if they weren’t too limited in their vision to understand the opportunity they are throwing away here.
Apple isn’t popular with younger people the way it used to be, nobody likes Microsoft, everybody hates Android (I do too even though that is my phone os)… there is a major generational opening here for introducing kids to computers in a fun way and becoming “the computer” in the minds of kids.
Especially with the environmental crisis and climate change, people will look back at this and shake there heads and lament that if only Nintendo had copied Valve for that generation of Switches, Nintendo could have grown into an entire operating system and computer culture and there would be WAY less needlessly obsolete handheld computers laying around from when the next generation of Switches inveitably comes out…
What people still don’t understand about computers and people is that whoever introduces kids to computers capable of doing complex work in a fun way will shape the future, because those kids will grow up into adults who create, use and design tools that do cool amazing things. Nintendo needs to wake the fuck up and realize they are selling a handheld computer that is very good at playing games, the world desperately needs another company with vision, good UI design, and the capability to bring hardware and software together into a competent computer experience (Microsoft cannot do this, and undermines all its hardware partners that actually try to do this with their own incompetence).
Your assertion that Apple, Microsoft, and Android are all unpopular with everyone seems like it might actually be a personal opinion rather than a fact.
I know people who enjoy all of those.
Lol those poor lost souls
Nintendo could have grown into an entire operating system and computer culture and there would be WAY less needlessly obsolete handheld computers laying around from when the next generation of Switches inveitably comes out…
This isn’t and has never been Nintendo’s desired goal. Needless obsolete handheld computers laying around is a feature not a bug. Nintendo wants to sell more hardware. If you’re able to use your hardware longer, it means lost sales. Nintendo also doesn’t want to be a general purpose OS. There’s all kinds of things you have to do as a company for a general purpose OS you don’t have to do as an embedded system as they are today.
It is nintendo. After a success they need a fail. At this point it seems like one of the underlying rules of our universe.
I don’t think that will happen. I share your vision, but that’s not how “Nintendo people” reason.
I have a few Nintendo friends and all of them share two reasons for going Nintendo:
- Great games
- No tinkering
Great games
Oh, bollocks to that. All it took was one serious competitor to Pokémon to make Nintendo shit the bed. Excepting Zelda, most of the pathologically Nintendo games are shovelware-tier trash. If the current iteration of Mario or Mario Kart were released today without the nostalgiabait and brand recognition, they’d be the laughing stock of the industry.
All Nintendo has is quirky gadgets, a closed ecosystem, and notoriety.
Pokémon is indeed a sad state of affairs. Although it’s not developed by Nintendo, but that’s being pedantic.
In-house developed games are certainly of a quality you don’t find elsewhere. There’s a reason games like Metroid Prime, Mario Odyssey and Zelda BotW/TotK are critically acclaimed, and it’s not for being nostalgia bait.
Criticall acclaim doesn’t make a thing automatically good. The criteria are way too arbitrary, and sometimes boils down to “a well-known publisher has done a thing” simply because it attracts more eyes and journalists have a financial interest in playing nice with those publishers.
A Hat in Time was released around the same time as Odyssey. It’s the first game of a small indie studio and it beats the living piss out of Mario in terms of gameplay and style. The only reason it wasn’t more of a breakthrough was timing and getting eclipsed by Mario’s shadow.
If the current iteration of Mario or Mario Kart were released today without the nostalgiabait and brand recognition, they’d be the laughing stock of the industry.
This was very convenient, thanks. Now I know I can safely ignore every opinion you have on every matter.
Good. Never challenge your beliefs.
I mean, they’re kind of right. Objectively Mario Odyssey and MK8 were great games that can proudly hold their own against some of the greats. Not the best games ever, but much closer to that title than to your Hateorade fuelled “opinions”.
I’m as pissed off at Nintendo as anyone at this point, but if you are going to straight up exaggerate your distaste for these games to the point of obviously lying, it shows two things.
- You are infact the only person here actively unwilling to challenge your beliefs.
- Your opinion is so based in emotion that it can’t be trusted. And an untrustworthy opinion can safely be disregarded.
I can understand not liking the genres or having different stylistic preferences, but saying that new Mario games are shovelware? Have you played them? SMB Wonder was the most fun my brother and I have had playing a platformer in like 20 years. The game is full of creativity, almost every level introduces a new game mechanic that could easily be its own game.
That doesn’t make much sense to me. The games part okay, kinda, since Nintendo games aren’t easily available on the Deck.
But tinkering? I’ve had a Steam Deck since it first launched, and the only tinkering I’ve done is because I could, and wanted to. Never because I needed to. All games I’ve played work perfectly out of the box. Even games marked as ‘unsupported’. All of my tinkering was completely unnecessary and done for additional fun, e.g. modding, which is one of the best things about PC gaming, and will most certainly never be a thing on Nintendo’s platforms.
As far as I can tell, “Nintendo people” don’t really ‘reason’. More like, they follow their uninformed preconceptions, and reject anything that doesn’t fit with them. My gf has been a Nintendo fan for a long time, and she was convinced other platforms aren’t that simple and offer a worse experience. I introduced her to PC gaming, and showed her how the Deck works. Now she’s forgotten about her Switch and isn’t going to buy Switch 2. It seems to me that all these people need is somebody to show them what gaming really is. Because whatever Nintendo is, it certainly isn’t gaming. Just a small glimpse into gaming, maybe.
As for Zelda, Mario or whatever fans - guess they’ll have to stick with Nintendo. Personally their games never appealed to me enough to buy a console specifically to play them. I’d like to play the new Zelda games, but I have a lot of other games to finish first. And then again, Switch emulation is incredibly easy. Took me like 10 or 15 minutes to get BotW working last time.
I agree with you, but I would say you can’t assume everyone has the same goals. I can tell you, my Nintendo friends are not idiots nor mindless zombies. They simply are not interested in learning about how the other options work, and I would say that’s totally fair.
I have a dear friend who has most of his games on Steam, but still, he told me he prefers the Switch. “Why?” I asked him. “Because Nintendo makes exactly the kind of games I want to play, and because unlike with the PC, I can just pick up my Switch and start playing” he answered.
I have a ROG Ally with Bazzite (so, basically equivalent to a Steam Deck) and I have to admit that, while 90% of the time every game works out of the box, sometimes some games misbehave. Although, to be fair, this only happened to me with Epic Games games ran through Heroic.
I would say it’s totally fair to prefer Nintendo. It gives you great games that don’t require tinkering. If that’s what you want, then Nintendo is a great option for you.
Yep. Old Nintendo you would buy the thing (cartridge/disk/ect) and with no fiddling the game runs. It used to be its best quality. That and most people don’t but them new, they would get games used. It was “cheapish” and you knew you were going to have fun.
Nowadays it’s not so black and white. I have long term Nintendo fan friends that for the first time are thinking of skipping this generation. Or in one case waiting a couple of years. But we shall see. More options are good for all us users, so I’m happy we have these two companies vieing for our time/$.
The move to try to limit secondhand physical game sales and requiring the Internet to download the whole game in some instances was part of my decision to skip this generation, if I’m even going to stick with Nintendo at all in the future.
I agree. That and them going after emulation in general makes me not want to buy their products anymore.
There’s a ton of good indies and devs are releasing most games on all platforms nowadays. The console makes less and less sence.
long term Nintendo fan friends that for the first time are thinking of skipping this generation
That’s me. Nintendo consoles since the Wii have been a “side piece” to more powerful consoles for me. Now that they’re pricing the console close to the powerful ones and charging MORE for the games, I’m out.
Memory is not storage.
Not with that attitude! swapon!
Bro why you gotta remind me of the swap file nightmares with w98 ha
In the end everything that is storage can also be used as memory. You could print it to paper and scan it back in when the cpu requires it (and write a memory interface to do so)… It would just be terribly slow if you don’t use something like DRAM
Sure but that’s the opposite of what was mentioned.
Storage can be memory.
Memory cannot be storage.
the fuck are you on about lmao
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TmpfsYou can use a ramdisk to use memory as storage. And if it’s volatile memory just be sure to never power it down. Ignoring the applicability of it of course.
Don’t they have different screens too though?
They do, but usually have the older/less good screen on at a fairly steep discount (presumably until they run out of stock of it)
From the original decks, the top tier screen can be achieved with a matte screen protector
Exactly. The two higher editions are OLED, 7.4”, 90 Hz, which is a huge plus, vs the LCD, 7”, 60Hz display of the old/cheaper one. Plus the battery has 25% more capacity for the OLED editions. But between the top two, it’s just storage and cosmetics/accessories.
I am in so much pain that MP4 is finally coming out and it’s on this shit.
MP4 checklist:
- Video format? No, that’s old.
- Mass Effect 4? No, that would be ME4.
- ??
Mario Party… 4? Aren’t they on like 9?
metroid prime 4
Also on the original Switch, though.
That and the Air Ride sequel man. All I can hope is that people get emulators going fast.
There’s work already being done ;)
Nintendo will come down on them like a ton of thwomps.
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Also there’s no such thing as indie switch games. Which limits the market and means that all the really interesting games aren’t even on the platform.
I have both. So far the only advantage the Switch Lite has is that is lighter and pocketable. The Steam Deck is not just about gaming which it does so well, it has also become my main and only PC outside of work. I have it hocked up to my TV more often than use it in handheld mode.
I’m very sure you can even run blender on it
We have everything you can play games on, so also both of these. But the Steam Deck is absolutely the gigachad, even moreso than my actual gaming pc if you just look at hours used.
If you forced me to get rid of all my devices but one, it’d probably be the Steam Deck that’ll be left.
They don’t say please, they just threaten you with legal ramifications.
Bonus “Fuck Nintendo” points: pirate their games and put them on the Steam Deck.
This is the way.
Careful with SD; they quickly wear out with lots of small writes. I once fried one as homedir while trying to compile Firefox.
I’d like to know more about this- as far as I know they are solid state, meaning no moving parts (ergo more reliable)
they’re more reliable but they still wear out, but i don’t really think it’s a problem you need to worry about, just have in the back of your mind that you’ll want to make a backup after a while so you’re not sitting there with a dying sd card with all your data on it.
But also IIRC flash storage specifically fails to write data as it wears out, so it’s not like the data is gone.
Hmm, for now only about the general fragility, due to cheap controllers and low quality flash. But i think i have an article about this saved somewhere.
Btw, if you reformat an SD, I/O and lifetime will fall sharply, due to some block size parameters differing, above mentioned article goes in detail about this stuff.
Sounds like you got a shitty SD card. High endurance cards are recommended for frequent writing.
Can’t say for sure, because all are mixing high quality with recycled from the scrapyard quality. The big names only a bit less of the scrapyard.
Yes, this. I got a 1tb micro SD card a few years ago for my hacked Switch (Fuck Nintendo, especially now that they’ve went after emulation) and finding a LEGITIMATE SD card was very hard, especially since I wanted the high-capacity and they don’t just sell those at Wal-Mart. Be VERY careful about buying SD cards folks, lots of scammers out there in the markets now.
EDIT: forgot to add that I received TWO duds, fake SD cards that were NOT 1tb, when trying to get my SD card
How annoying is that! Where did you get the fakes?
Another question. Is that a separate issue? Like let’s say if you buy from Best Buy:
Sounds like @MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml was saying it’s still a crapshoot even if it’s totally genuine. Like if you buy 10 for 10 different handhelds, maybe only half of them are still working after a couple years but the rest of them last two or three times longer… <speculating>
Mine were off of Amazon since I live about 2 hours away from anything other than Walmart. :’)
Yes, that.
Endurance SD cards made for cctv cameras are the way to go. The Endurance versions are slower and slightly more expensive but they last a lot of writes.
Each write to a memory location wears out that location slightly degrading it’s oxide layer. Flash memories compensate for this by “wear-leveling” which spreads the writes around to different locations to make sure the device wears out evenly.
It will mark bad locations and stop using them. If you run with the device almost full then it cannot effectively wear level and the few open locations will be overused and wear out.
It’s not specifically small writes, it’s the number of writes to any one location. But of course it’s faster to do small writes so you end up with more if they are all small.
Also, there are flash memories optimized for performance that will wear out faster and others that are optimized for longevity that write slower.
Keeping the device cool will extend it’s life also.
For longest life, keep the device cool and mostly empty and minimize writes. In critical applications find a device that optimizes lifetime over performance.
Hold on, i think i now remember: this one was about SD usually having smaller block size, so each small write causing a multiple in blocks written, i think?
Are SD cards not still the standard storage for digital cameras? I can think of few things designed to produce more small writes than a digital camera.
This person is confusing me. I use SD cards for my cameras and drones and routinely move files and reformat them with no issue. I have several cards that are over 6 years old and used daily. SD is the standard for all current cameras and drones.
I’ve only heard about SD cards data getting corrupted when doing lots of small writes. This was something people talked about when the raspberry pi first came out I think. But, I’ve been using micro-sd cards for years for all sorts of things and never had a problem.
The mod abilityof the deck and the openness is a killer feature of the deck. It’s an excellent device.
“If something wears out after the warranty expires, here’s an independent online store with a full inventory of all replaceable parts, along with the instructions for how to fix them.”
I just wish the Deck was a bit lighter.
I wish the steam controller wasn’t discontinued, IIRC it was some patent bullshit. But you could use one of you have it or get any other controller and use it with the steam deck
I have one, and plenty of controllers, but I’d trade a bit of battery life and horsepower for weight. I don’t play AAA games on mine, and I know I’m not alone, so they’d be smart to release a lite version.
And it’s not just the weight. My wife has small hands and can’t play it comfortably because it’s so large. I bought her a WIN400 and threw SteamOS on it and that works alright. Something that size would be amazing from Valve (but without the really fucking stupid control placement).
Small form factor handhelds with power under the hood are definitely a thing, but they’re like $1200. I bet Valve could drop the power by 40% and sell it at a reasonable price point.
Fair enough, I guess they probably wanted to target one set of hardware to begin with and this is what we got with a few minor variations. As popularity grows more choices will probably come further down the line.
My primary concern, too. It’s fine for my man-hands but my wife and children still would rather use a switch (or literally have to, as I try to get my 3 year old to reach buttons). A deck lite would be lovely.
We just use a neck roll placed in the lap or on the stomach to rest it on while playing. It is a bit on the heavy side, but it is the first generation consumer handheld with that kind of power so I can excuse that.
A deck the size of a miyoo mini plus would be awesome. But very impractical. I want it.
My one complaint is that the shape is kind of awkward and I’ve cut off circulation in my fingers holding it
