Some of these services don’t offer themselves in turkey (tidal)
Is there a higher res version of this image? It’s too blurry/small for me to read
Sure, this should get you a direct link to the image: https://mobidrive.com/sharelink/i/2TWnMWgOrKoCcbsSc8ZaH54P6IlGSGScCi2lfDBSbBPt
Awesome, thanks!
i decided to self host my library in as high of a res I could using Navidrome/subsonic.
I had a FiiO X3 anyway so i already had a FLAC capable player.
in the end, even if i know it’s not for everyone. selfhosting is the only way to never lose what u love. so many of my lesser known tracks are just gone on spotify.
I did this but I am not able to find new content.
That is indeed quite a gap and nothing that fills the “discover weekly/release radarr” that spotify gives you once you use it for a while, I tend to go to tons of music events and I pick up music here and there.
Browsing what’s popular/trending on beatport also helps a lot in adding fun tracks you wouldn’t know from the radio.
Yeah it sucks that the Spotify algorithm for both automated playlists and “shuffle” is a mess now. It used to be half-decent, but now from what I’ve heard from insiders, though no official confirmation or anything, is that the algorithms were modified to heavily favor sponsored artists, and so only really works with popular genres with lots of sponsored artists from major record labels, and “popular” songs, which means the more a song is played, the more often it gets played which becomes a self-fulfilling popularity cycle that excludes less well known songs. Really does a bad job for me with interests across many genres and wanting to hear more “b-sides” from artist I follow.
To be fair,i switched to Tidal for a bit because i got a several moth discount for talking with a product manager about what I thought the app needed (though they didn’t seem to take any of my advice anyway), and it’s no better than Spotify with finding new music. It paid artists better at the time and streaming quality is a bit better (not sure about now), but it was also missing a lot of artists I listen to, unfortunately.
I really miss the early days of Pandora when it used to use the “components” of music to cross genres and didn’t rely as heavily on how popular a song was and had just about all artists I could possibly want. Sure, I did a lot more skipping of songs back then, but now I just hear the same 50 or so songs over and over. I get really tired of it and don’t have the time to make my own playlists, not to mention even if I make a list, I want it shuffled, and even that just plays the same songs over and over way more than “random” would.
I’d love if there was a service for finding new music that allows me to hear new songs and then choose to purchase them if I want to hear them again.
And even better if it gives me a list later to review if I want to purchase so when I listen in the car I don’t have to touch 4 or more buttons to “like” a song. Never understood why Spotify, Tidal, etc., car apps always bury the like button and instead present a back button that doesn’t work if you aren’t in a predefined playlist anyway, and a shuffle button that I’m not going to want to turn off and on on the fly anyway. The like button should be immediately after the next and pause buttons in priority order. Such bad Ux design.
I also really miss Aimee Street that Amazon bought and killed. It was a cool way to get less popular music for cheap as well as getting the artist more exposure and more money the more often a track was purchased. Got so much stuff for pennies that I ended up really liking and buying a lot more from the artist.
Anyway, that’s my rant about music apps for today.
Never lose as long as you have a good backup strategy.
Very True, that is one of the few things people don’t realize enough when starting selfhosting. Backups and documenting what you did.
I have a raid NAS keeping my data in-house which has an encrypted backup in the cloud (Infomaniak kdrive) and my FiiO X3 SD card which is an additional portable backup. So on that front, I don’t worry too much.
Qobuz also does purchaseable music, not just streaming.
Same with Apple Music.
Is Apple Music the same as iTunes?
Apple Music is the streaming subscription service. iTunes Store is where you go to buy individual songs or albums. They both show up in the same iTunes library.
Yeah until they remove the albums and you don’t keep them anymore afaik
You are complaining about something that is not specific to Apple Music. It can happen, and it sucks, but Apple is no different from any other online music purchasing store in this regard.
iTunes Store purchases are free from DRM and can be backed up just like any other libre digital purchases.
All songs offered by the iTunes Store come without Digital Rights Management (DRM) protection. These DRM-free songs, called iTunes Plus, have no usage restrictions and feature high-quality, 256 kbps AAC (Advanced Audio Coding) encoding.
https://support.apple.com/guide/music/intro-to-the-itunes-store-mus3e2346c2/mac
I dunno about the other two, but you absolutely own the music you download from bandcamp. Trying to gaslight everyone into believing that apple music isn’t shit is naïve at best, complicit at worst.
Bought music from iTunes (not Apple Music, the streaming service!) is DRM-free just as Bandcamp, and I’ve lost music from my Bandcamp profile as well because the artist deleted their account (which I luckily downloaded most of beforehand).
The effectively only difference is Bandcamp offers lossless downloads.
It’s written in the image
It is, but I found it strange not seeing it in the actual purchaseable music section
192kbps? Is it the 2000’s again?
I thought so too, but can we really tell the difference?
Are you talking about the 24 bit 192kHz part?
Is Spotify EU? They’re headquartered in Sweden, but they’re listed on the New York Stock Exchange, but their largest shareholders are Swedish and British.
Also, Soundcloud probably warrants more information. In no universe would it be someone’s primary option but if someone’s looking for a specific song that’s not in the (limited) Qobuz library then it’s a decent fallback.
It’s developed in Sweden, so yeah, that would make it EU.
I’m actually one of the rare only SoundCloud users… The way I like to discover music can only be done on SoundCloud. I’ve been with them for 9 years now
Wow! Care to expand a bit on your process?
I used to love Spotify’s Discover Weekly but those bastards fixed the adfree cracked one I were using and boy do I miss it.
I am not able to find iOS apps for Deezer, Qobuz and Tidal.
Here is the link to Qobuz.
I have it on my iPhone, I just haven’t moved my Apple Music over just yet. Hard to get off that Apple One subscription when I am still finding a Nas setup for my place.
Tidal is for sure on iOS.
I’ve been happy with Bandcamp. They got sold recently so their future is uncertain, but I downloaded all the music I bought.
They don’t really have an algorithm, but you can see who else purchased something, and they do blog posts about like “what’s new in [genre]” that’s worth reading. So far as I can tell it’s written by real people.
They also have regular “Bandcamp Fridays”, where they forego their 25% and give musicians 100% of proceeds for the day. It’s a good chance to directly support small artists.
Yeah, from the conversations I’ve had, they’re kind of the best of a bad bunch, all things considered.
This graphic seems to put Spotify in a “less shit” category than the other big players based on national origin or something.
From a quality and fairness perspective Spotify is just as bad. A large list of credible musicians and content creators have detailed the poor compensation, shift towards fake artists and AI filler tracks, and other moves Spotify has made that harm the artists and provide a worse listener experience.
If you want to fairly compensate artists, you’d be better off pirating 100% of your streams using alternate frontends for YT music, then making a list of your top 10-20 artists and buying an album or T-shirt from each of their official websites. They will make a lot better margin on that and its better for their career than any amount of streams you can give as one individual. (Also go to shows when available locally)
Some of the categories for this infographic are arbitrary within the context of the music streaming market. Spotify is literally a more “incumbent” “monopoly” than the “big tech incumbents” if you only consider the segment of those companies’ operations related to music streaming. Spotify is probably the worst choice of all, both using the ethos provided by the infographic and by other metrics too. Tech companies with 150B capitalisation are big tech regardless of how much bigger others are.
I’ve been considering this and although I’m not one to pirate anything (my skills for this stayed in 1999) I’ve been buying CDs out of thrift stores and ripping them :)
Tidal is owned by Block, the owners of Square, which is the biggest POS vendor in the US. If that’s not big tech I don’t know what is.
Part of the reason I just shifted to a fully self-hosted setup.
Left Spotify because of all the bullshit they pull, tried out Tidal because of the higher quality and higher artist pay, but even if it is a substantially better platform, its ownership is questionable to say the least.
I dusted off bandcamp and learned to use slskd to build a full local high quality library powered by a Navidrome instance.
Naspers is a South African multinational internet, technology and multimedia holding company headquartered in Cape Town… did you mean Napster…? Did you generate this with AI or something?
Why would the largest music streaming service in the world be in the “other” category and not the “Big Tech Incumbents”.
Yeh and the blurb for splotifry reads like an ad, with not a negative word to say about this exploitative monster.
I mean, the “To Note” section includes information about their worse practices. The whole infographic is such a nonsense mishmash.
Anything that can work with Android Auto?
Tidal does. Haven’t tried others.
Excellent question! Qobuz should be and I believe TIDal /Deezer as well. But feel free to create a post on !PurchaseWithPurpose@lemmy.world for more exposure :)
There are also Faircamp and Mirlo, if you are looking for even fairer and progressive alternatives.
I’m trying to get most of what I like on CD and then host a jellyfin server
Qobuz rocks!
I tried them for a bit and really wanted to like them but their “modern” metal catalog, playlists, and discover-ability was so bad I had to begrudgingly go back to tidal.
