These guys are certainly the landlords of our time
Been farming most my life - and f*ck those guys, let them fail.
Industrial ag was always built on the premise of a slave labor force, and cannot sustain without it.
These men, poison their land, strip their topsoils, blame everything else when crops fail and are first in line for some big-daddy socialism, whist decrying anything progressive or sustainable as hippy commie shit.
May not have choice in the coming years.
Maybe these morons should stop voting to remove their employees. Too smart for these MAGAts.
Its truly incredible.
Their response will just be to fold, to literally sell the farm, and also at the same time never even be cognizant of the fact that they got exactly what they voted for, that Trump repeatedly said he was going to do exactly this, that lefties screamed about Project 2025 and the resounding response was basically ‘pff, he’s just bluffing,’ and then making up a fan fiction version of what Dear Leader will actually do.
They’re just gonna revert back to the ‘no one wants to work’ mantra untill we just literally put our incarcerated prisoners to work in the fields, going full circle all the way back to slavery.
These idiots didn’t even realize how dependant they were on so many massive subsidy programs untill they poofed out of existence, again, 100% in line with Trump’s platform.
Has any nation in history fucking autolobotomized as hard and as fast as we have?
Literally the world’s sole super power 20/30 years ago, and in a single generation we have destroyed ourselves in almost every way possible, short of just nuking ourselves.
they tried it with prisoners already, they arnt doing it because they are already in jail, why work when you have all the ameneties provided for you, and it barely affects your sentence.
Dude what? Our Constitution literally allows for us to continue slavery as a punishment. Why the fuck would you ever think they had a choice?
Much like how it is very easy to pass laws and ordinances that fuck over the homeless, it is also easy to pass laws and ordinances that fuck over prisoners.
The US Constitutional + Ammendments explicitly allows slavery as punishment for a crime you’ve been convicted of.
The Supreme Court has now repeatedly just thrown all prior existing legal case precedent out the window and just made such nakedly hypocritical rulings that its fair to say they are a completely biased and arbitrary institution.
The rule of law in the US is dead, is a farsical joke.
Some state will just pass a law that says uh hey, if you’re a prisoner in a facility in our state, and the state has some kind of extraordinary need, we can force you into involuntary labor.
Then other states will copy this once it passes one state’s court, then in 6 months-ish it’ll get to the Supreme Court who will say yep, checks out, carry on, and then every other red state and half the blue states will do it as well.
I am not 100% sure this will happen, but it is very, very plausible. 95% sure something like this will happen within 5 to 10 years, possibly less.
Also… its illegal to be homeless now, and the economy is crashing. Get foreclosed on, can’t pay rent, end up in the streets, living in your car?
Yep, why not crack down on that like ICE is cracking down on migrants, now you’re convicted of being homeless, the punishment is a few years of forced labor.
A few years? Optimistic, are we?
Just to add a point - if the farmers do end up folding and selling off, who’s going to buy the land? My money would be on large corpos.
Yes, it would 100% be large corpos that more or less run and own many farms that same way large landlords run 10s or 100s or 1000s of apartments / rental homes.
Sorry, I had thought this was so obvious it didn’t need to be directly stated, but yeah, it’s not a bad idea to be more explicit and more clear.
Bill Gates owns 270,000 acres of farmland already.
Has any nation in history fucking autolobotomized as hard and as fast as we have?
Well, the Khmer Rouge killed everybody who wore glasses because they were “intellectuals,” China killed millions trying to force city kids to become farmers during the Cultural Revolution, and I’m pretty sure other autocratic totalitarian governments have fucked themselves in similar ways. Usually when societies become illiberal, people with brains are the first to be put up against the proverbial wall.
No no no, they’ll vote for the GOP again, but hope they’ll force inmates or homeless people to work the fields.
I’m certain that when they say MAGA, they mean bring back slavery.
But instead of shipping in the slaves, using the existing stock
You mean slavery?
Yes, but with a nicer name.
I hope the inmates and/or indigent perform plenty of malicious compliance if this happens.
they tried with inmates already, they arnt going to do it, they will do the bare minimum or nothing at all, since they have very little to gain from it.
Don’t you guys have forced prison labour? That ought to do the trick. You can even employ Moore people that way because you need guards and fences, gps tracking on the volunteered workers and all that.
Lol. What a clownshow. You voted for this, morons. Decisions have consequences, even/ especially if it’s to sit out and do nothing, and yes, im now talking about the other group of idiots.
Absolutely. But I’m beginning to think there weren’t as many sit-outs as certain precincts would have us believe.
You DONT understand! All he Wanted was to Bully GAY Kids! He NEVER thought HIS Immigrant Workers who were STRAIGHT would be DEPORTED too EVEN THOUGH Trump promised to do that! STOP being SO Divisive you STUPID LIBRUL COMMIES!
-Chuck Schumer and the DNC!
What a Rollercoaster ride of a comment… fuck politicians in the US. This is the downfall of our society
What’s funny is the old idea that book nerds know things but farmers do things is a source of pride for farmers.
The reality is that farmers are just nerds also.
Yet they think of themselves as something else, like mythical strong men beasts who feed the rest of us useless folks.
The real strong men are the very immigrants that do the literal toiling while the farmers are basically like mini CEOs by comparison
Their rejection of the very nerdiness thst gives them their mystique is ironic
They are smart enough to turn land into food
But not smart enough to realize how they actually do it
If we all have to get fucked over, I’m definitely gonna laugh at the morons who chose this and will suffer worse than me
Well, they won’t work for less than minimum wage, so there’s your problem. Hell, won’t even work for minimum wage.
Isn’t $7/hr minimum wage? That’s slave conditions as well.
Let’s think about this. If you work 8 hours under the hot sun with little breaks, you’ll get $56 and that’s before taxes. It’s insane. That’s probably not even what they’re paying them.
Lower for agriculture workers under certain circumstances.
7.25 to be exact at the federal level. Some states set it higher though
But to be pedantic, being a slave has nothing to do with wage. Being a volunteer isn’t slavery.
Slavery is about consent.
$7.25/hour is not a “living wage” regardless. It’s slavery, with extra steps
You can go to a place with better wages. Like many gas stations.
And living wage heavily depends on location.
What’s your wage? I bet it’s not $7 an hour.
No no, I did about six months of construction work out of high school, got my shit together and now I make a good wage. It might be harder for some people than others, but it’s still possible.
It might be harder for some people than others, but it’s still possible.
No it isn’t if you’re a minority of any kind in some places. Someone who landed on 2nd base telling everyone to become a professional player and hit a home run. I know you’re trolling, but hopefully this gives people something to read if they’re banned from the game.
Bootstraps, ammiright
Do you have a choice when you starve or work for what you can get? This isn’t rocket science.
Or I could pan handle. Or go to one of many homeless shelters/kitchens in my city. A couple options there.
And on what planet would you not expect someone to work for food?
Is pan handling legal?
Didja know there’s often waiting lists for shelters? Didja know that food banks usually require proof of residency? (Good luck cooking that bag of beans if you are unsheltered. Milk might have a few chunks in it too.)
Hmm, I wonder if you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
They’re options. I didn’t say they were good options, just that they were there.
The best way forward is to find a decent job that pays a living wage. Get your CDL or something, it’s really not that hard.
Get your CDL or something
Epilepsy.
I had a job that paid a living wage, they just made it illegal for trannies to have it 🙃
Farm labor is often 12-14 hour days. It’s backbreaking work. Also, Florida and Texas (and I’m not sure what other states) have passed laws eliminating guaranteed water breaks for outside workers.
I’m sorry, what the fuck?
The one in Texas got overturned in courts, but as far as I know, the Florida one made it through
*can’t find american workers willing to work for what they’re offering.
pay more get more.
You’ll still have trouble finding people. Picking crops fucking sucks.
Pay even more. Just shows you the extend of the exploitation.
- Farmhands deported, can’t find replacements
- $200k labor grant suspended indefinitely
- Lost subsidies, making less money on product
- Tariffs jacked up equipment prices and repairs
- Depends on Medicaid, no insurance if it’s cut
Oh boy, way to seriously fuck yourself from every conceivable angle, smart guy. Sumo wrestler lookin leopards after this one.
Add that any products grown for trade are sitting unwanted in fields, or for aid rotting in warehouses because the government canceled the contracts for them. Food is often held in special warehouses where the oxygen is pumped out, but there aren’t enough of those to hold all the excess that was expected to be sent elsewhere
It’s a colossal mess, with an incredible amount of waste
At least during Covid the farms were transporting food to churches/communities at lower prices. They literally have no one now to pick up the produce. Waiting on farms to start pick your own systems like blueberry farms.
This won’t work for orchards and tree based produce. One idiot falling off a cherry picker will ruin a small farmer
It’s a colossal mess, with an incredible amount of waste
Yes. Yes, he is.
That’s just good old fashioned republican efficiency. These boys better get their bootstraps and figure out which conglomerate they’re gonna sell the farm to.
Big corpos probably lining up to strike a bargain rn
One more: China puts tariffs on agricultural products specifically, because they know what they’re doing.
Correction: every country has agricultural tarrifs to protect local farmers, except in extreme scenarios where populations are being starved or cannot produce food by themselves.
China put tariffs on us products from states that voted for trump, specially on soy beans IIRC.
This is just a gift for big farm.
This is all designed to drive the family farm out of business and make land cheap.
Which is why billionaires have already been buying farmland and have been for years.
Slave labor, monitored by drones with AI supported facial recognition.
Robots will take over?
ICE facilities are currently overflowing. ICE prisoners will simply be leased out as farm labor.
Jesus fucking Christ that’s dark but entirely possible.
The US has always operated off of slave labor. We currently, among other things, use slave labor to fight forest fires.
I read somewhere the US both has a really high incarnation ratio (as in amounts of prisoners per x citizens) and a high percentage of externally employed prisoners. Interestingly those stats where compared to Russia (Siberian labour camps) and China (Uyghurs in forced labour).
i think its 1.2+million in for profit system, and you wonder why courts are often desperate to hand out convinctions often, despite the lack of evidence in many cases against disadvantaged people. it also helps breed future cannon fodder for the military too(through the children of the incarcerated), basically generational slavery.
Yes, we have one of the highest prisoner per-capita in the world
Nah it’s a reality
Bringing back that slave labor
It’s literally their plan
Stupid cunts.
