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    So do they also just enjoy jingling keys for 2 hours?

    Like it’s not that hard. You enjoy it or you don’t and everyone has a criteria on what’s good or not.
    Some people like to think about high concept stuff and a good movie gets their moral queries up.
    Some like professionalism and it’s about shot compositions and good editing.
    Some want jokes and as long as they laugh it’s good.
    Some like Neil Breen stuff that’s none of the above.
    Truly exceptional movies usually are able to satisfy multiple groups of people and also may get you interested in lines of thought or art that is in a different realm than your normal standard of quality.

    Saying you turn off your brain and have no concept other than colors make time pass is beyond a lack of critical thought.

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    Books are good when you don’t realise you are reading.

    Any film that makes you realise you are watching a film (bad sets, acting, dialog etc.) is bad.

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    Yes. This is why I hate movie critics. Your PhD in post romantic Spanish literature does not qualify you to make a determination if the power rangers movie was good or not.

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    That’s why I watch video essays that are longer than the actual movie and explain why it’s bad instead of watching the movie

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    I’m often very enamored by camera work, type of shot and things like how they translate certain things to film with limited options.

    Especially when it’s Drama related and has to do with heavier emotions or things like disorders and other issues.

    But usually i’m just a: “watched movie, had fun” kinda guy.

    I watched a stoner movie a while back about some guys that got stranded in their van and hotboxed their asses back or forward(can’t remember) 30 years…as an avid non drug user i had fun but i did think it was a shit movie tho.

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    And that’s awesome!

    But please, don’t rate the movies you watch 9/10. For those of us who watch most movies, an average of 90% is inarguable insane.

    I’m so moved by this post that it consider writing a review of 5/10. Fortunately, I don’t have enough to say to reach that IMDb character limit so 7/10 and no comment.

    Oh and tv shows…if you’re giving every episode 9/10, please stop, some of us are watching these things a decade later and it’s best to know if it’s actually worthy a 9.

    That’s also when reviews come in handy, because the reviews become our research. We don’t write review for you, don’t take it personally.

    It’s ok to be baffled. Some of us are used to seeing out the answer rather than post our brain droppings.

    Turns out I had more to say than I thought.

    ✅ No spoilers.

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        I mean, some people’s opinion might be actually worth more than others. Subjectively there’s people in my life I watch every movie they reccomend and there’s people whom I don’t take recs from anymore after the tenth shitty ass movie they say “I totally have to watch”

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    I’m exactly like that, but the other way around. 90 % of the movies I watch I don’t enjoy. Mayhap it’s just not my medium. Makes the 10 % I did enjoy realy worth it tough.

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      Depression is one factor, but I also realized that what Hollywood thinks a “relatable” character is is very far from who I am as a person.

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        Film is a medium that is truly coming to its technical maturity while also being at or near the absolute height of our artistic powers as a civilization. That’s why it really sucks that at that same moment, studios are more risk-adverse and money driven than ever.

        I didn’t want to be a film snob, but I feel like I have to go indie these days to see anything worth my time.

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          Same thing with video games. I mainly play indie games and if you combined the budget and staff of all of them, it still wouldn’t come close to the budget and staff of a AAA game. So much more creativity is allowed thought. A single vision rather then a design by committee.

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    With the same logic there’s no good food and bad food, might as well eat mud if it makes hunger go away. Drink your piss, yay thirst gone! Live under bridge, yay no rain! Work 60 hour weeks get minimum wage, yay you’re contributing to society woohoo

    Good rage bait tweet, twat. You got me.

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      Damn, dude. I think they just meant it’s okay to enjoy stuff that’s not the very best sometimes.

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        I agree that one can enjoy going to the movies and dislike the film at the same time, if that’s what this dude is saying he’s got a weird way of saying it. But I love the positivity of your take

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    I 100% get this and I think a lot of people are missing the point. It’s like going to a football game without knowing the rules, which team is better, or who is winning and having fun anyway. It’s not having fun watching people suck because shitty football can be funny.

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      Some movies (Marvel, Fast and Furious, Transformers) are Pepperoni Pizza. They are not a 7 course dining experience because THEY DIDNT SET OUT TO BE!

      If you sit down to a pizza and tell me its the worst soup you ever had, you’re a dumbass.

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        I don’t think this is proving the point that the people who say this want it to make. If you’re trying to champion what the movie is trying to be, then that’s one thing. (i.e. Marvel movies want to be fun, fast paced, action packed, and humorous)

        But championing what a movie is not trying to be doesn’t really work. For example, saying that a movie isn’t trying have the traits that make a movie good (pacing, plot, framing, blocking, cut speed, color grading, etc), especially when all those elements are present simply by virtue of the medium.

        That’s like saying a watch isn’t broken just because it doesn’t tell time. You can like a broken watch. It can be a fun fashion accessory. It can have a pleasing design or be comfortable on the wrist. But it still doesn’t tell time. And thats not a dig on those who like it, it’s just a true statement about the watch.

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      I mean, I can certainly tell whether a movie is objectively good or bad while watching it, but that rarely correlates with my enjoyment of the movie. I can separate “this is really badly made/has bad writing/is a ridiculous premise” and “this is a fun distraction from the daily routine”.

      I kind of feel like being unable to make that separation and not being able to enjoy movies that are “bad” must be an exhausting and miserable experience.

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        Its a very mature and peak enjoyer mindset to be able to separate objectively good from bad AND being able to not feel bad about enjoying the good movie and enjoying the bad one.

        Im bored to death watching marvel movies that are objectively kinda good but we had a blast watching only god forbids despite me reccomending people not watch it.

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        Saying this as a massive Bruce Campbell fan (i.e. I really enjoy “bad” movies).

        While doing anything you can’t enjoy would be “exhausting”, I assume people who dont enjoy “bad” movies just… don’t watch them.

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          I don’t think camp is the same thing as bad. I’ve seen things that are very campy, but still manage to have compelling character arcs.

          It’s the issue I had with the Bayformers movies. Having over the top special effects wasn’t an excuse for all the characters being rotten.

          Evil Dead on the other hand bought fake blood by the barrel, but Ash’s decent into madness was the real focus of the story.

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            Another example, Rocky Horror Picture Show. Certified classic; it’s doing exactly what it wants to do. Is not trying to win Best Picture, and that’s what’s great about it

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            Evil Dead is one of the greats and easy to love, but I’m talking a genuine enjoyment of movies like Moontrap, Alien Apocalypse, and My Name Is Bruce.

            The Bayformers are an interesting choice, because while I don’t enjoy them myself, I’ve heard people actively enjoy the movies for the spectacle. Similar to how I have enjoyed some of the… less well written… Godzilla films. Folks are gonna enjoy what they enjoy.

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      I was about to say, I remember watching movies in childhood that I enjoyed the experience of, but did not take on board. It was a series of lights and sounds. I rate those films Stimuli/10.

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    Movies can be fun bad tbh. They can have cheap budgets, horribly low quality CGI, but still be a fun watch.