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        So basically if you hate a community, you just gotta go there and post some no-no pics, and everything gets nuked? Great, I’m sure nobody will abuse this.

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      I watch enough No Text To Speech to belive this is true. I even think he had a video about this

      Anon can at least hope to appeal the suspension as its not a complete ban but support might take a while

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    Whats the draw of discord? I don’t get why people go on there. It’s boring af and you gotta talk with people while you play video games. I’ll go on if I absolutely have to for a group, but I avoid if I can.

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      Being able to enter and sit inside a call where your friends can see that a call is active and who is in call is a really nice feature. It completely negates having to ping a whole group that may or may not be available like with Skype.

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      Whats the draw of discord?

      Chat plus streaming as a freemium service that has its hooks in with the networking effect.

      Probably the biggest draw of Discord is how many people use Discord. But past that, it fills a bunch of real time social media roles well.

      As a case in point, I’m in a game of Pathfinder Kingmaker with friends, and Discord does a good job of letting players join virtually, sharing screens, rolling dice, keeping a log of the different chats, pinning the links to the Kingdom management files, and providing a search function to find historical info.

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    Anon doesn’t know, Discord fails to include a libre software license text file. We do not control it, anti-libre software.

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        Presumption of innocence is a thing, you know?

        In 2020 some small servers (50-200 people per server) got cover banned with all their users, mostly for political talk, as far as I’m aware.

        I, personally, usually join such small servers while looking for lobby members in older games, I have a couple of them muted except for channels dedicated specifically to game lobbies. If someone starts an “illegal” talk in any other channel on one of these, why should I be held liable? Or am I suddenly obligated to hunt for pipe bomb recipes in any server I join?

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          I don’t really know how to use Discord except by muting servers immediately after joining and probably never looking at them again

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        Discord specifically has a skip to most recent post button, that i use frequently on the busier ones, because I’m not scrolling through two miles of unrelated nonsense and sub-convos to get to what’s currently relevant.

        Am I guilty of thoughtcrime?

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          My question is why do people feel the need to be in 40 servers? I couldn’t name 10 I give a shit about.

          As a user you’re voluntarily joining a server, you should know what the content is and how well it’s moderated. Ignorance isn’t a defense here; a server doesn’t get nuked for one bad actor posting illegal content once or twice.

          Nine times out of ten these stories are from a user that joins servers made for NSFW content (usually for something like OF leaks). There’s no content verification and lots of active channels.

          You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to realize that combo almost always ends poorly (see: reddit jailbait or old pornhub). If it feels risky just leave, there’s no lack of places to find porn on the internet.

          • yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.worksBanned
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            1-3 for friend groups, 3-20 for various games because devs decided to stop using traditional forums so if you want to talk shit to a game devs face regarding changes that fix the exploit you’ve been using to have fun you have to pretend to be a discord kitten for months and gain their confidence so you can appropriately deal enough psychic damage to repay what they took from you, 5-10 for foss software collaboration, 5-10 for obscure porn game contribution so it stops taking ten fucking months between updates.

            And I think I’m pretty asocial. Normies must have thousands of servers joined.

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            Bro got down voted for telling the unwashed masses to practice some vigilance and personal responsibility. Fuck…

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              how is it my problem if an emote server i joined years ago and never even opened since turns bad?

              how is it my problem that a hidden channel i never saw broke TOS?

              people get banned for both

              get off people’s asses for not being discord batmans hunting down TOS violations across every channel, every day in every server they join. we’re not paid discord admins and we’re not doing their goddamn work for them, besides even those reporting can get banned.

              content like this should be removed yes but proximity to it shouldn’t get you banned. Do you think it would be a good idea to arrest an entire block of flats because one resident turned out to be a criminal? Do you think it would be bright to expect every single resident to have figured out a crime was about to happen and leave for the duration of it?

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              *for telling people they are responsible for what others do in a chatroom they may look at once and then ignore.

              I am in discords I never engage with, but literally only have as a place I can search for answers, like a niche alternative to stack overflow. It is absurd for me to be held to the standard of policing everything that happens on those servers just in case some of it might be bad. Discords can also have permissions limited viewing. Are we supposed to know what happens in the channels we can’t see?

              More importantly, despite how much work it is to do so, punishments have to be applied on an individual level. Punishing people who are in a class is too vague.

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            I’m in 60+ servers, but actively follow maybe 4-5. Others are for different games, twitch communities, lots of subreddit discords since I haven’t used Reddit since the API bullshit… I should trim down the list but I like popping in to them occasionally, don’t feel like I should get banned due to activity in a server I rarely check

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        You know that some servers can have tens of thousands of people right?

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            So, what you’re saying is, if someone on your Lemmy instance breaks the rules of another instance, your entire instance should be defederated, right?

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            My point is that it’s very naïve to assume that everyone in a given server knows what one person potentially posted once, especially the large servers.

            Of course it’s possible they knew, but assuming by default that they had to have known is stupid.

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            I mean, Lemmy used to have a big issue with CSAM being spammed by malicious users. Many people believed that it was pro-Reddit trolls, because it started happening right around the same time as the giant API debacle.

            By your logic, every single user in instances that got spammed should be banned. Because even if they didn’t see it, or interact with it in any way, they’re still personally responsible for it. After all, personal responsibility doesn’t stop existing in a large group of people.

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              Lemmy is celebrating cracking 50,000 users. Discord has 200 million MAU. They take a broader approach to punishment because it’s the only feasible way to avoid legal problems.

              IIRC some Lemmy instances were defederated at that time for poor moderation and nobody complained. Its a reasonable approach to avoid liability.

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        Just because they’re part of the server doesn’t mean they knew it was there.

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        It doesn’t prove that they knew either. We have this thing called presumption of innocence.

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      I mean, seeing as it’s a 4chan greentext there’s probably some very important information being left out.

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    Anon’s big mistake was not being the President of the Gulf of America.

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      I know “lol anon has no friends” is le epic funny meme but by friends, they obviously meant their contacts.

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        I have a lot of people, I’d consider friends, that I only communicate with through discord. If I lost my account, I’d likely never hear from them again. Kinda get it.

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      This was my first thought.

      Obviously did some shit then trying to gain sympathy like omg I was banned for being nice.

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    This is one of the bigger reasons I don’t want to use social media controlled by a corporation, it means they can choose to cut me off from people at their discretion, which will probably be based on what is convenient and easy for them.

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    This is why people should be worried of using these massive services, luckily it was ‘only’ Discord (if this was your primary way to interact with friends, this can be a huge deal).

    But imagine if it was your email account!

    Getting a reputable provider, self hosting or using a decentralized option is paramount for your own sanity.

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      There was that man who was all in on Google.

      He had a telemedicine appointment for his son who had a problem with his penis. Dr asked him to send a close-up photo so he could diagnose the skin condition

      So the guy takes the photo with his pixel phone and sends it

      The phone automatically backs up the photo

      Google’s AI says it’s child porn, his account is deleted and police are contacted

      Police look into it and say “not porn, totally fine” but have to go to his house to tell him the was no problem because his phone was Google, his internet was Google fibre, his email was Gmail and his photo album was on Google and all that was irrevocably deleted

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      This made me thinking about Valve potentially banning my 19-years-old Steam account due to some error or a mistake 💀 I heard bad things about their customer support.

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      Currently having problems with GMail I lost my old phone (2fA) and no device was logged in so i could not access steam and like everything that requires that old mail

      And my phone provider or postal service is stupid because i could not get a replacement sim after multiple tries which normally works

      Googles account recovery policy is basically:

      • 2fA
      • recovery email
      • create a new account x.x

      I think the recovery mail option only gets unlocked after 6? months inactivity because ~3 months ago i did not have the option

      Now after requesting a recovery i still have to wait a full month before they maybe send me a password reset to my moms mail

      But steam support was nice. Managed to get the account by providing a product key i used a few months ago and was lucky enough not to have thrown the physical card away

      • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Currently having problems with GMail I lost my old phone (2fA)

        Yea this is exactly why I don’t use 2FA

        If the password is like 64 characters randomly generated by Keepass, the 2FA doesn’t matter.

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          This is what I do as well. A few services force 2fa though and also have 0 good options (let me use my flipper as a u2f through not chrome, ungoogled-chromium works, but damn), and for those I’m forced to use text.

          While I’m here, anyone have a good chrome based browser that is private and can use serial ports for flashing meshtastic devices and u2f? Need android mainly because I have ungoogled-chromium on linux, but will take recs for linux too if there’s a better one.

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          Nah, any decent password manager or security application can manage multi-factor security credentials of any kind without lock-out due to phone loss.

          Password authentication is beyond primitive by offering too many avenues of attack: the full secret is transmitted & shared. Passkeys, client certificates, OTP don’t transmit the secret key. Passkeys & client certificates authentication never share a secret key, so the server can’t expose it.

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          You can still accidentally leak your password via phishing or malware. 2FA is fine if you don’t tie it to a phone number, simplest way: install any authenticator app for TOTP tokens. Scan the QR code on multiple devices like phone + tablet, or old phone, for redundancy. Or save the secret key.

          Google and most critical services also give you a list of 10 single use emergency codes that you should print or save in Keepass - lost the phone? Nbd just use one of the codes and reset 2FA.

          I also never thought my non shared password would be public but one day I suddenly got prompted on the authenticator if I wanted to login; still no idea how or why but at least no one could get in and immediately rotated out the password.