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What a dumbass 😂. You cannot kill an idea, it will always be here.
I’m fairly sure there is a higher chance this parasite will get guillotined before “the woke mind virus” dies.
People will really just censor fuck but not a deadname. Maybe don’t fucking do that in future.
The statement becomes hard to understand if you just censored Vivian’s old name.
If you replaced it with “Vivian”, and “she”, then you change it so much that it becomes confusing what point Musk was trying to drive at, and/or diminish exactly how vile his statement was.
Just blank out her dead name. People have been doing that on other platforms and it is clear enough what type of harrasment it is. Otherwise, you are just spreading the harm.
Fucking idiot killed his son himself.There was no “virus”. He went with “you’re dead to me”. Vivian said that this is who she is and he killed her for it. He’s the loser - she’s living her truth and he’s blind to who he really is. What a clown.
Eww.
You’re gonna die first, you cowardly drug addict bigot piece of shit.
God, I hope so.
Why do you think he’s wearing his others kid like body armour
He likes drugs and has no one to tell him “no.”
That’s a risky combination.
We should hook him up with Michael Jackson’s doctor.
And Kanyes dentist and Mathew Perry’s health guru
And Luigi’s hip iron.
musk is clearly a deeply disturbed human being. this explains a lot and is, in and of itself, deeply disturbing.
is vivian the only close person who refused to be what he wanted them to be? the closest person that could not be bought and said “no!”? is this what broke him?
now everyone will pay for his inability to accept the truth and reality of another person.
a couple of thoughts that i’m sure aren’t popular on their face:
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it takes a village to fail an idiot. elon has shown in the past that he’s capable of being better than he is now. i don’t think there’s anyone in the world who* actually, really needs a genuine, loving hug right now more than he does (*edit - fixed sentence)
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it’s impossible to grow, learn, and make mistakes as a fucking trillionaire without it affecting millions of lives. everyone deserves to be able to make mistakes and learn and grow. it hurts us ALL when we allow people to amass such perverted fortunes. there shouldn’t be super-rich people with respect to the rest, because it’s harmful to all involved
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elon is in pain. not just right now, but all the time. it’s easy to see that he has a lot of regrets. he’s still human, and he’s still got a conscience. he’s just misled, and it might be better to rally around him right now than to burn down his dealerships
i’m sorry - i know at least one of these is completely crazy - i’m just racking my brain trying to think of new things, because the way i’m currently thinking is fucking me up.
I guess my thought is: What if we had more of a “We know you’re better than this” vibe than the whole “fuck you nazi” vibe?
Fuck a hug, dude needs a comically large cigar tip cutter
i did not specify now long nor now strong the hug should be
edit - according to current sources, i don’t think a cigar tip cutter would facilitate your objectives.
he meant a guillotine
Jesus may have turned the other cheek, but they executed him anyway.
i don’t get your point
Elmo isn’t going to give you money. No matter how much you slurp :)
Having an understanding that the issue is systemic and that all people ultimately deserve compassion, understanding, and justice does not negate the threat posed by someone in that position. Showing compassion to a person like that, who is an active threat, is dangerous. Once their ability to cause harm has been reduced or removed, then we can safely engage with them.
thanks, you’re right. but do you think it’s gonna take much longer to bring him to that level? something inside me wants to see the bigger Elon prevail. or do you think bringing him lower is just going to make him ore vindictive? he isn’t really hanging around with good friends these days.
(ps - i’m not being apologetic, i just really want to make sense of this)
Honestly, you are a detriment to the human race, and you are pathetic.
I guess my thought is: What if we had more of a “We know you’re better than this” vibe than the whole “fuck you nazi” vibe?
He would continue dragging us all further to the right. That was the attitude many gave him, he just revealed how wrong they were to assume he was better than that
He’s literally the grandchild of Nazi supporters on both sides of his family, it’s super likely if not confirmed his parents were also Nazis. Dude isnt better than this and never has been
Very simple reason why:
He’s not better than this, simply because he would rather have this insane amount of wealth and NOT use it to aid people.
I hate bezos for that, I hate musk for that, and I hate Zuckerberg for that. Musk gets more hate for all the actions he has taken to benefit himself and the other billionaires. He has so much more blood on his hands than that United Healthcare CEO, and I am very much okay with what happened to that guy
Cancer cells are just doing their best to survive but if no one will treat it I sure as hell am going to call it some dirty names.
fuck me, why does the most apt reply always have to be the last one i see?
Guy has been at least been privately documented as an asshole for decades.
During his dance at his first wedding reception, he informed his wife that he was the “alpha”.
When his infant son died in 2002, he largely ignored it and said his wife being in pain over their baby dying was just her being “emotionally manipulative”.
He constantly demanded her to act and look a certain way, and berated her for being a bad wife.
He was not a better person back then, he just had a more carefully curated online and media presence. His ego has brought him to the point of dropping all pretense.
You can’t just keep assuming the best of someone acting badly and hope that support and understanding will bring the person around.
yeah, you’re right. nothing he does is sincere. i’m just racking my brain trying to find ways for change that don’t involve immolating dealerships. but i suppose that the French have already taught us better.
Your heart is in the right place. Violence alone cannot create a good world. We must strive for empathy and however and whenever this ends a lot of people doing bad things now will need reintegration into society.
But right now they’re running wild and hurting people. I think your empathy is better given to the red hat down the street that feels trapped and like society and the economy have passed them by.
Elon is in agony. His wealth is wounding him and making him unable to stop doing evil things. But he won’t give it up without a huge fight and he won’t change with offers. He thinks he’s winning right now.
For a good example of someone with too much money who has been offered countless gentle hands out of bigotry look at JK Rowling, who’s refused people who were once incredibly close to her giving gentle “hey you’re being bigoted and it’s hurting people who admire you and it’s hurting your reputation and legacy”.
If you want to do the noble work of helping tight wingers out of the far right look for videos from people who left the alt right talking about their indoctrination and leaving.
I’m sorry, but seriously fuck him with the rusty chainsaw he used as a stand in for all the insecurity he has.
We are well past “you could do better” and more “needs to be tried for literally working to dismantling the government and ruining countless lives”
i’m not saying he’s not accountable, i’m just saying it could have been different. we all should have seen the culture war long before it cost us the fucking world. cowboy hats or extensions, you’re (edit: we’re) all fucked now.
The culture war has always been a manufactured distraction creates by conservatives to make people blame the powerless instead of the wealthy for their problems.
As a trans person I am fully aware of the culture war because it effects me directly. I was aware of it long before I considered I might be trans.
But the culture war is still a distraction. They want to blame the economy and stuff on everything but “corporate greed”.
But as much if a distraction as it is it sti does harm. It still kills people.
A-fucking-MEN. (edit: probably the worst possible time to ‘split the infinitive’ so to speak, but whatever)
for what it’s worth, i was trying to provide food for thought.
i hope you have a good sense of humour, because i imagine your typos are the result of having long, fabulous fingernails :P
The only chance to show him a better way probably over by the mid 80s. He had cemented a sense of superiority by then and whatever humility he might have had was completely blown away when he managed to sell Zip2 for millions, before anyone knew who he was.
The only way to “resolve” the “culture war” to Elon’s satisfaction would have been for Vivian to deny her identity and keep trying to be Elon’s son. There’s no fair or equitable resolution that caters to Elon’s sensibilities.
That’s the most fucked up part to me. His dick is broken, so he has to rely on IVF for kids. He’s apparently obsessed with having sons, so I’m sure that some fuckery went on with said IFV. and then he had a “son”. but his “son” realized that their gender was engineered. i can’t imagine how fucked up it must be to be her and realize that. now, her fucked up father is saying stuff like “my son is dead”. I think I recommended the wrong target for the hug.
Yeah, I couldn’t imagine ever acting like that toward my child the way he acts toward her. Just flat out declaring your child dead to everyone and refusing to acknowledge who they are now, just because of what they chose to do with their own life… It’s pretty heart breaking.
He doesn’t even have an excuse of losing his path to a genetic legacy, he’s got a dozen living children who may still go on to have children. He’s neglected all of them until Luigi killed a CEO and suddenly he’s carrying one around like an ornament all the time, but still they got his genes, for better or worse.
Maybe 1970s Elon could have used a few more hugs, but this century it’s just too late.
sometimes you just have to give credit where it’s due, and i’m sure my LLM query cost a bunch of people a day’s worth of artificial light, but here goes:
- anti-triumph
- a morality tale
- a cosmic farce
- an existential horror
- a shakespearian tragedy
- a greek tragedy
- a geek tragedy
- a cautionary tale
(i added the geek tragedy one. tip your waitresses)
Nah. Are you Elon? There’s a point where you have to recognize that a shitheel is still a shitheel. YOU hug him. I’d as soon piss on him for the harm he’s done to others. BY your logic, a billionaire (He’s NOT a trillionaire) doesn’t deserve second chances because the damage has been too great. There is only unfulfilled justice remaining, and hopefully that will catch up with him sooner rather than later.
totally get where you are coming from and thanks for the considered reply. I am sure others will answer, but here is mine…
the immediate, urgent imperative is extracting our collective asses from this mess. after that we need to discuss and make real proper boundaries on the nature of accumulated power and wealth.
I am personally not disposed to handle musk with kid gloves. his actions, and the actions of the other deranged humans he has enabled, directly affect people in my family in ways that place them in mortal danger. given the nature of his trauma (yup, he displays obvious trauma) and the path it entrenched him in, my inner armchair psychologist whispers to me that the only option is mitigation and management - or removal of the problem (non-violently… of course, right?). I do not believe there is redemption to be had for musk - and yes… that said I accept that I, personally, am probably a misguided human.
now, if someone were to conclusively show that hugging it out with musk would change course for the thousands, millions, billions of people who will be harmed by his ego, then I will personally line up and do so. however, at this moment in time the man is insulated enough so as to make him unreachable - just like the others he orbits with.
I believe the only option is mass protest and mass disobedience and there will be pain and there will likely be blood for many and I wish it were not so.
I cannot find the capacity to soothe musk back into his humanity - I do not begrudge those who might try, however futile I think it may be. and so, organization around alternate options remains a necessity.
i agree, and… i know that it must run its course now, but it’s unfortunate to see what i see as a lonely, creative kid whose life’s circumstances have stunted and perverted his desires, and now he’s just awful but he still thinks he’s doing good. a trillion dollars has got to fuck with anyone’s head. it shouldn’t be this way. (edit:) No one should have that much money. It fucks up inventors, it fucks up musicians, it fucks up religious leaders… it just shouldn’t be. Why do we let that happen to good people?
He was a bully as a child. He’s not a trillionaire. He’s a crime against humanity, Fuck off Elmo !
yknow some people just say they’re OK with the “T” part of LGBTQ until their kid or brother becomes one.
the term “NIMBY” comes to mind. i never understood how someone can take offense to another person trying to feel more comfortable. isn’t that what we’re ALL trying to do?
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Did you see the video of him at one of the mar a Lago dinners yesterday, he was definitely high playing with the silvery, and his baby mama was swaying back and forth
One man’s transphobia and horrible parenting is tearing this country to pieces. This is the worst possible timeline. I can’t even begin to imagine what his daughter is feeling right now.
It’s far from just the one man.
That’s absolutely true. I transitioned over a decade ago and have never had a problem until Republicans randomly decided that trans people were a target recently. A buddy of mine transitioned 35 years ago and he’s in absolute pieces over the state of the country right now. He was harassed just yesterday while taking a walk, because he’s out and proud in the neighborhood. I’m absolutely terrified to see how bad this will get.
She just did an interview and a
photoshopsPhotoshoot in Teen Vogue. Vivian said she’s not afraid of her father at all and that he’s pathetic (direct quote) and that he can go to hell (paraphrasing).The interview dropped this week so that’s probably why Musk is tweeting like a 12 year old role playing their vague concept of a bereft father.
photoshops
I assume you meant photoshoot…
Lioool yes I did
Country? You guys are going to start a world war.
It’s equally likely to devolve into civil war instead, in which case we contain the atrocities to the States
Yay
Agreed, but then amongst the vacuum Russia aims at Europe, China takes Taiwan, and off we go.
Europe needs to step the fuck up right now. Don’t they know that appeasement doesn’t work? Are they going to continue standing on the sidelines for years while Ukraine fights on their own?
They can also stop this war. Europe can take action. Lead the world while the US has its head up its own ass.
Europe does take action.
Also, Russia is in no state right now to start a military attack on Europe more than they already do right now (i.e., cutting undersea cables, troll farming and election manipulation etc.). Russia can’t handle Ukraine with half-assed support from Europe/US, how could they handle Ukraine plus the rest of Europe?
They (i.e., the Russian government) are a fucking joke and no threat to anyone.
You had me until last part. Belittling level of threat that Russia and its allies pose is not good. Not good at all. Belittling encourages apathy and sense of superiority, which we cant afford.
I recommend ”Autocracy, inc.” book from last year 2024 by Anne Applebaum (which won a pulitzer) to you, all americans, europeans and anyone who actually cares about democracy, human rights.
Sadly, Russia and its allies are no joke. They are a threat we must take seriously.
Thanks, I’ll check that out. My current perception of the issue is quite the opposite, though: Europe has been in a shock state, not knowing what to do, because they were scared of Russia. Nobody dared confronting them. Ukraine is one exception, and as it turned out, the Russian military (apart from their nukes of course) is a joke. Turkey did that a few years ago as well, when a Russian fighter jet entered their air space for a few seconds and they just shot it down.
My current reading of the situation is that the fear of Russia is more threatening than Russia’s actual power.
Ruzzia is one of Drumphs third world shitholes. Everyone squats over a latrine pit outside of Moscow and St Petersburg. They have the worst food in the world and all the men are addicted to anti-freeze vodka. The greatest cause of death is self immolation because the fuckers won’t stop smoking everywhere and even their own women loathe them because they’re all trying to marry western men. It’s a grey country full of corruption and racism. In the last 4 centuries they have had maybe half a dozen decent writers and musicians. And somehow, Pootang the Tiny thinks they need to export their “culture” LOL
fuck off, traditional Russian food is excellent. You just have the palate of a child.
Is this idiot talking about his daughter? Sorry I’m away from news
Yep
he apparently used IVF or something to have kids, and only had male embryos implanted into the partner dejure of the moment.
So when she came out as trans, he lost his absolute fucking mind.
He was always a emotionally stunted pre teen edgelord.
But when she came out, he went extremely hard right and dove head first into deathcamp nazism
I’m not here to shit on your mastery of language, but:
De jure - by law (from Latin)
Du jour - of the day (from French)
Yeah, he was “pro” rights for that community and posted about it on Twitter pre that happening. Then she came out and he flipped his shit started hating it all.
The man child also had a hissy fit when Grimes started dating Chelsea Manning.
He has like 14 kids and is a total sociopath so ‘losing’ one shouldn’t be a big deal. Russian Tsars had healthier relationships with their kids.
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As an elder millennial I liked to watch older cartoons of my childhood previously, but as I got older I thought ‘man I wish the world was that simple to understand with cartoon villains’.
Then I got even older and now I realize that the world IS that simple. Only problem is that we don’t have cartoon heroes to match.
Vivian responded on Instagram
What does it say?
It’s a screenshot of the tweet with some music, then “I look pretty good for a dead bitch”
This reminds me of the Mike Tyson Mysteries episode where the farm folk say their daughter died because she was a pie baking stripper
I’m not against pie bakers or strippers, but combining the activities seems unnecessarily dangerous.
I once watched a woman fire dance while doing burlesque. I don’t think I’ve been more impressed by a performer’s skill
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This isn’t the right thread to post it on, but no he can be shittier. He even pulled a preemptive Adolf Eichmann when he said that he never physically hurt anyone. This is what Eichmann said at his trial. That he never killed a Jew or ordered anyone to kill a Jew.
That was, of course, irrelevant. He was the architect of the holocaust and his actions are what allowed the 20 million victims to die.
Slight tangent here: it’s important for everyone to recognize how any organizational structure or bureaucracy contributes to the diffusion of responsibility. At best it’s accidental, but at worst, it’s used to protect those in power while ensuring the little guy is left holding the bag. At the same time, it helps everyone involved do their part since their individual role is usually very small and only slightly outside the moral bounds of the individual (if at all). You (anyone) may be in an organization that has the same patterns at play, * right now.*
This is also why RICO lawsuits are a thing, since it was nearly impossible to nail mob bosses to the wall without it. IMO, we still need something stronger as applied to the misdeeds of corporations, but I suspect that’ll be a long time coming.
Many countries did enact RICO style laws to stop organized crime. In Japan if one Yakuza member does something really stupid, they can actually arrest and charge many of his comrades even if they had nothing to do with his crime or even have knowledge of it.
Oh wow. If there was ever a Japanese take on something like RICO, “you have brought shame on your organization so all of your associates get punished” is probably the most Japanese one possible.
If he thinks himself eichnann I’ve got news for him, as he’s a major propagandist, and Goebbels and Streicher both hanged.
Julius Streicher was indeed hanged, but Goebbels committed suicide… along with his wife… after killing their children…
Oh yeah he was one of the ones who knew he was doomed and did it himself
A coward to the end, unwilling to answer for the crimes he knew he committed.
And seriously what a sick fuck to even kill his kids. The allies weren’t going to punish his children.
