Well Obama didn’t have these glitches in 8 years, and Biden didn’t have these glitches for a combined 12 years, so if your level of success is only two months, you’re a fucking failure

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    Our one glitch is from signal

    Well, and the NRC

    Our two glitches are from signal and laying off people at the NRC

    Oh, there was also the misleading DOGE numbers

    Three! Our three glitches were signal, the NRC, and misleading DOGE numbers.

    And DOGE having a completely unprotected database of course.

    Oh, dash it all.

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    USA is gonna genocide with or without leaks. Really who’s actually going stop USA from murdering poor non-white people in the middle east?

    They could plan this publicly on Xitter and it wouldn’t matter. They’re gonna murder people regardless. They already have been and it’s not even news.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_theater

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    Because the ignoring of congressional law and judicial orders is intentional but what are they going to do. impeach me. so sick of those guys I can’t wait till we start rounding them up and shooting them.

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      Trying to make it sound like a technical failure, not a massive show of incompetence and a huge security lapse by people who are unqualified for their jobs and shouldn’t have been communicating through those channels in the first place.

      And “It’s the first time we’ve really fucked up inexcusably in a whole two months” doesn’t really work as a defense. Nor is it true.

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        I am not even sure if he knows what a glitch is on a technical level btw.

        It is however his very very first admittance of a failure from his administration, so… yay? I see progress! /s

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        Trying to make it seem that they’re not actively breaking all the laws around record keeping for government business.

        There’s no excuse for this.

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      Well, ish… SCIFs are used for the collection, dissemination, and storage of Top Secret/SCI material. Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRNet) is only cleared for up to secret level material. There are higher classification networks they should have been using instead.

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        Active war planning is scif unless there is some overwhelming reason someone has to be remote. Doing “dope shit in Russia” is a bad excuse for not being somewhere much more so when it’s an adversarial nation who’s constantly monitoring and trying to break into government devices.

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          Yes, but not on SIPRNet, which was my point. Even inside a SCIF “SIPRNet” is too low a classification network for this discussion, and SIPRNet can be accessed outside of SCIFs in spaces cleared for up to Secret.

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      The only reason we know about THIS attempt to bypass the Presidential Records Act, is because they finally fucked up so bad that the NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR accidentally invited a reporter to sit in on their illegal text meeting. It is extremely clear that this sort of illegal arrangement is SOP for the MAGA Nazis.

      It is long past time for the Dems to start playing Hard Ball, and this case is the perfect one to start with. The Dems should give this the Hillary treatment, and hang onto it forever. These Nazis should be asked about it in every interview they do forever. They should push for investigation after investigation, and whenever they gain power in either chamber, they should immediatrly launch a deep investigation. Make each participant appear for testimony, and grill them for 12 hours, and do it over and over, for years.

      Never let go, be so relentless that even we get sick of it.

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    I don’t know about Obama, but let’s not forget Biden had classified documents stored in an old office. It was still not as bad as Trump storing documents in Mar-a-Lago and then denying it after he was caught. The incompetence of this administration is ridiculous, but let’s not pretend everything was perfect until Trump came along. It is incomprehensible how people in some of the highest offices are willfully mishandling classified information.

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      I think the big difference is Trump tried to ignore a direct government rule and take classified docs home and store them insecurely, then refused to give them back when asked to address the problem which prompted an FBI raid to reclaim.

      Biden was audited and returned what they asked for when asked.

      Kind of a drastically different situation.

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        No, the big difference is that the very few documents held by Biden and Pence (funny how the MAGA Nazis always forget Pence) were determined to be minor breeches, and totally accidental, and were voluntarily found and turned in before the authorities even knew about them. They even invited the authorities to come into their residrnces and search for more. They were handled in good faith.

        Trump DELIBERATELY gathered, and stole, hundreds of documents based on their value to our enemies (perhaps to order) with the intent to sell them. He denied having them, finally was persuaded to return them, but he only returned aportion of them, and forced his lawyers to sign an affadavit that they were all returned, and he held no more, which was a lie. Then he ordered his minions to move them around and hide them. Finally, the FBI was forced to raid the building to retrieve them, and some of the documents are still missing. Everything Agent Krasnov did was in bad-faith.

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        Absolutely. The disregard for government secrets is far more blatant here and in the Trump case and their actions after the fact are far worse. It doesn’t change the fact that there are rules for how classified information is to be handled and we have examples of Trump, his cabinet, Biden, Pence and Clinton disregarding those rules. For Clinton, Biden and Pence, at least I buy that it was a mistake and there is some remorse. They didn’t double down. It doesn’t change the fact that it shouldn’t have happened in the first place. Just because things suck now doesn’t mean that we should wish for things to just go back to how they were before. Better than Trump should not be the bar.

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          I believe that same audit said that every presidency going back to Nixon and excepting Carter had unaccounted for documents that were later recovered. That’s why the audits are done. The drastic diftin behavior surrounding a routine thing is the problem.

          Agree with the bar being extremely low though. Good point 🤣

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        The level of classification was also different. Trump had the highest, Biden the lowest. And it’s known that Trump was waving around classified materials in front of his cronies at Mierda Lardo, which Biden never did. And there’s circumstantial evidence that Trump had that material in order to disclose it to foreign powers.

        And Trump lied about it all when investigators asked for the documents back.

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    You can call this the only glitch because everything else they have done since January is a line of catastrophies. And this one did not turn into a catastrophe that cost lives just because the journalist in the room behaved responsible.

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      If I was the US military I’d be troubled by the fact the President doesn’t recognize how irresponsible and dangerous this all is.

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    lol. This was the only glitch?

    Remember when your dumb asses fired the people who maintain the nuclear stock pile?

    (Who wants to go next?)

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      lol. This was the only glitch?

      Remember when your dumb asses fired the people who maintain the nuclear stock pile?

      That was all intentional. Everything he’s done to fuck up the US, the economy, and our relationship with our allies has all gone according to plan, because he’s an enemy to the United States and a domestic threat to our Constitution.

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          Removed Jackie Robinson’s page from a Department of Defense website because of their war on DEI, then had to backtrack and restore it because Robinson was famous enough that even a lot of the MAGAts out there felt uncomfortable about it

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    Trump dismisses Signal security failure as

    Our failure”.

    Signal worked perfectly here: if you add a contact, they get the messages.

    What failed was the Trumpist, like at everything else.

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        Yeah sorry I underspecified because the rest is implied in the context of the case. You add a contact to a group, of course they get the messages that go to the group.

        Heck, even IRC (basically) works like that.