Good.
Better for the environment anyway.
Rewild the rural landscape back to forests and prairies.
They’ll pave it over and accelerate the destruction of arable land while also screaming about population decline.
Pave it for what purpose with what money? No one wants to park in the middle of no where.
There is a lot of rural land and it is worthless, that’s why they cannot fund themselves.
No, they cannot fund themselves because of corruption, and lack of funding and will (and competent governance) to fix it.
I maintain that there simply is not enough tax base for these areas to fund themselves but you’ve done a wonderful job moving the goal posts beyond anything the article is stating; they rely on federal funds to operate.
What data do you have to back up corruption?
Keep in mind there are far more small towns than large towns. As a ratio it seems unlikely that small towns are more likely to be corrupt than cities.
The question then is what funds are they using to facilitate this corruption. My guess is federal and state funds because again, they lack the tax base.
And they’ll blame The Libs like always
A few weeks ago, they all seemed to be operating from the same exact talking points and it seemed to be “yeah, it’s regrettable what is happening, but we are dealing with this terrible economy that Biden handed us…”
Which is weird, because the economy was doing just fucking fine before donvict started working to break government, threaten our allies and go into a stupid trade war with everyone.
It wasn’t doing fine; these towns were already dying. Trump told them a bunch of lies about how he would fix the economy. They tried putting out the fire with gasoline.
Fox News will and they will repeat it.
Yea, if those libs didn’t skip out on voting Kamala cause she’s pro genocide, this never would have happened!
I’d add /s, but somehow I see maga fucks being okay with this excuse.
Hey look, the perennial straw man machines are here.
I can’t tell what’s happening here, are you being sassy because people aren’t pro genocide?
Idk I was drunk.
Understandable
Checking my local newspaper, turning on the TV, and logging into my favorite social media. Everywhere I go it’s the same message - liberals are to blame.
What other conclusion am I supposed to draw?
Have you heard of critical thinking?
Critical thinking without useful information is just teleology. You’re stuck doing Thomas Acquinus shit or Aristotilianisn when you have an abundance of analytical skill but you’re working from fundamentally biased or outright manufactured sources.
The information is there. I’ve had no problem keeping informed. It has been a drain on my mental health, but it’s very doable.
Just stay away from bullshit social media, first and foremost.
I’ve had no problem keeping informed.
Plenty of conservatives will tell you the same shit
Ok… And? I can demonstrate it, they cannot.
You can site your sources. They can site theirs.
Yeah, that’s not a sustainable way to keep the majority informed. Most don’t have the availability to do this extra work between jobs and family.
It is if you educate them properly.
I used to think that too until I grasped how much intellectual labor goes into the process.
I’m educated properly and it takes me a very long time to sift through the mud to stay informed. Some of my friends are educated properly as well and they fall behind / fall for some bullshit because they don’t have the time to do the work. If they spend the time, they figure it out. And that’s the trick, education gives the capability, but one still needs to do the work in order to stay informed. Doing this work requires time available, and a steady mental health. Both of those are actively taken away by the ever increasing cost of living (demands of the system). And most have to do the same work to stay informed.
I say, this, after weighing the words carefully in my mind, and with a profound sense of empathy for what it means, but – good. Maybe most of the people in these areas are so deeply ingrained that they can’t tell right from left, but at some point when the pain is too much, at some point when the desperation and bitterness and anger is leading to no action and no results, at some point they will realize that their mayors who are Republican and their county representatives are Republican and their state legislators are Republican and their governors are Republican and their congressional representatives are Republican and their president is Republican. At some point there would be a break, hopefully, in their Great Wall of ignorance and stupidity for some light to shine through. And while I fervently agree with most of them on how much I hate the national Democratic Party and it’s neoliberal corporate subserviency, That’s something different has to come about for us to get somewhere out of this hell scape.
It would take a 5-10 year depression for enough of them to reach the point that it would make a meaningful difference. Seriously.
Look at how it went last time. FDR and then his vice president created a 20-year presidential legacy following Hoover’s complete mismanagement of the Great Depression. After that came the 5-star general who defeated Hitler (who ran as a Republican in order to block an isolationist candidate farther on the right), then back to Democrats for another eight years—until giving black people equal rights was a bridge too far for Southern Democrats.
Basically, Trump would need to destroy this country economically, and have that ruination take hold for many years, before real charge can happen.
I mean he is going to do that, and the recovery won’t come to those places because they’re already economic dead ends. We need to focus on getting people who aren’t MAGA out and let them rot in the misery they bring in themselves. History is full of ghost towns, we’re just going to see some more that’s all. The rest of America will be able to recover and ditch these nonsense people and their broken politics
A lot of them are completely brainwashed by Fox News. It’s their primary form of entertainment. They will die believing the propaganda. They’re a lost cause unfortunately.
Most supporters of the Nazis went to the grave believing their cause was just. Whether it was on the battlefield, at the end of a firing squad, or decades later of old age.
They let go of their aspirations and public support because they were forced to, at the end of a gun.
People have been waiting for this break to happen since the 90s.
It’s not happening.
Their welfare payments haven’t been cut off before, we’ll see.
That would require educating yourself and questioning the entire paradigm you have lived in your entire life. And this hypothetical awakening would only happen after being faced with the consequences of falling further into poverty. Big doubt it.
At some point there would be a break, hopefully, in their Great Wall of ignorance and stupidity for some light to shine through.
There won’t be. The media that they consume will just tell them that Democrats or Mexicans or Muslims or trans athletes are to blame for their problems, and they’ll believe it.
More importantly, they’ll want to believe it. They won’t want to think that they’ve been wrong for years or decades. It will always be someone else’s fault
Gawd I hope so, these assholes soooooo have it coming. They’re totally self-sufficient and don’t need anyone or anything from anyone though, right? So they should be just fine in their Libertarian paradise?
Don’t give a shit about red states. They can gargle deez nutz
Never help Trumpers. Empathy is for soyboy snowflakes after all.
“Look whut the liberals have done to us.”
100% this.
Rural recessions generally mean people will go to the cities, and that’ll be fun because that means: crime’s going up!
Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.
It’s getting hard to stay optimistic these days.
Maybe, for the first time in history, they’ll blame the right person!
…naaaah.
Will be interesting to see how Faux “News” and other outlets craft a message to their marks about how this is “Biden’s economy” and poor donvict is only trying to fix things because he “was handed the worst economy ever”.
I mean, you’d have to be a complete moron that wants to believe such bullshit, but then we are talking about the kinds of people that voted for donvict…
Cool. Libs will buy those properties for cheap. Sales coming soon.
Libs are poor, too.
This is for the billionaire class, who are mostly Republican.
I dunno dude. Ya there are these 1% who are billionaire. Then there are these folks out on the wood who supposed for billionaire and make about 99% of Republican party. Literally in Birmingham Alabama for some work, as soon as u leave town, it’s all confederate flag and white Christina flags everywhere. Billionaires are just brainwashing these folks.
“The turkeys in red hats voted for Thanksgiving”
“thanks, Obama!”
Good they voted for it no?
So they got what they voted for. Seems like it’s working.
Thoughts and prayers
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The problem is that they aren’t smart enough to put the facts together and will blame whoever faux tells them to.
Melania should wear her “I don’t care, do you” jacket on a tour of the flyover states. It’s fun when the politicians send their wives to places they’ve pissed off…like when Vance sent his wife to Greenland.
Didn’t vamce go with her though?
Yeah and they knocked on a bunch of doors begging folks to meet, and everyone was like “Sorry, no thanks”.
