• franpoli@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    Russia remains a key supplier of resources critical to U.S. industry (titanium, palladium, uranium). While technically replaceable, developing alternative sources would take years. This makes the current moment less than ideal for imposing higher tariffs on Russia, particularly when the priority is to reindustrialize the U.S.

    • Match!!@pawb.social
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      2 years ago

      now explain why Russia is uniquely in this position or i user note you as a russian agent

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        2 years ago

        Well, as much as I’d love a dramatic spy backstory, I’m afraid I’m neither an FSB nor an FBI agent. Just a regular person thinking out loud. I don’t have a definitive answer, just some suppositions. I share them so we can all explore the topic with arguments and counterarguments; no secret dossiers required! Open to hearing different perspectives.

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      I find it funny than instead of at least imposing 10% tariff by default on Russia and selectively exempt critical resources. Russian wasn’t listed at all.

      Even an unoccupied island got 10% tariff by default.

    • Ye be warned 🏴‍☠️@lemm.eedeleted by creator
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      US imported $3.2 billion in goods and exported $595 million. Trade deficit of 2.7 billion Syria, Iran, Venezuela (according to Forbes) were tariffed - despite being already sanctioned.

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    2 years ago

    Fairly sure that’s because Russia is heavily sanctioned by thr US already, alongside North Korea, Cuba, Iran etc.

    Things are bad but let’s not spread hysteria.

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      2 years ago

      Yeah, it’s hard to put a tariff on a country that you have already sanctioned and don’t trade with at all. But that fact doesn’t play well here.

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        The US has 3.5 billion in trade with Russia. The tariffs include Iran; Venezuela, etc… they also slapped them on countries which we have a trade surplus with.

        It’s also looking like they used chatgpt to write the list but then specifically omitted five countries. Russia, north korea, Cuba, Belarus. Russia and its fine closest allies. How can anyone see this and not think the Kremlin does t own the Epstein tapes

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          they released the JFK tapes! several times!

          honestly i remain skeptical any “kompromat” on trump exists. or any Epstein documents remain that matter. we’ve all seen it

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            I was skeptical up until the tariffs. Now it’s obvious they’ve got blackmail.

            Alao an interview with epstein was leaked last year where he mentioned trump having sex on his plane. But in 2017 that clip was suppressed for some reason.

            We know trump flew on that plane many times and that it was rigged with secret cameras

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              i wouldn’t say trump wasn’t a super gross Epstein buddy, we already know that.

              “rigged with secret cameras”, so what. where is it now.

              edit I know nothing is forthcoming. there’s nothing. stop fabricating and focus on what’s happening, because it’s already terrifying

    • Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      How does this point keep coming up? It’s been refuted like a dozen times in every post I see. Feels like intentional disinfo at this point.

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        2 years ago

        You can believe what you like but I’m not here to spread disinformation. Looking at the replies from other people I think I’m just misinformed and need to do more research. It’s possible to be wrong on the internet without it being tied up in a conspiracy.

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          Right, but the number of people spreading the same wrong thing in multiple threads hours after they were openly provided direct info as to their error, starts to make it seem like a coordinated disinfo campaign.

          Yes, it is possible to be wrong on the internet without a malicious intent. It’s also possible to spread disinfo without being a malicious actor, since the whole point of disinfo is to get other people to take it up and spread it, occluding the real issue and disrupting genuine conversation about it.

          For clarity, I am not accusing you of being a malicious or disingenuous actor here. No offense, but I doubt you arrived at your position in a vacuum, you probably heard it from somewhere else first I imagine?

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            It’s a logical conclusion from quack, imo. It’s the second thing that came to my mind after the obvious ‘oh duh cause he’s Russias agent’

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      That was also the official argument from Karoline Leavitt, spokesperson of the White House, although last years trading volume between Russia and the US still was about 3.5 billion USD (roughly three times of what Ukraine - US traded).

      The question whether tariffs for Russia makes sense or not is rendered meaningless given the fact that the whole tariff plan is just wild (super small countries with a mimiscule part of trading volume still got heavily sanctioned etc).

      You are right that we should not spread hysteria, but we should still question statements coming from government officials.

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        Agree with what you’re saying here and I think I need to do some more reading. Getting the impression that I’ve been misinformed/mislead.

  • Stern@lemmy.world
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    You can view this one of two ways, possibly both:

    1. Krasnov
    2. Trump apparently was doing these tariffs based on trade deficits (Which is stupid on its own, if your dentist doesn’t buy the widgets you sell, that’s not a tariff.), if Russia wasn’t running one, then there you go.

    To rebuke 2 I present the following- https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/russia-and-eurasia/russia

    U.S. total goods trade with Russia were an estimated $3.5 billion in 2024. U.S. goods exports to Russia in 2024 were $526.1 million, down 12.3 percent ($73.5 million) from 2023. U.S. goods imports from Russia totaled $3.0 billion in 2024, down 34.2 percent ($1.6 billion) from 2023. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Russia was $2.5 billion in 2024, a 37.5 percent decrease ($1.5 billion) over 2023.

    Based on that math, with the CNN article I linked for the formula (the country’s trade deficit divided by its exports to the United States times 1/2) we get - (2,500,000,000 / 3,000,000,000) * 1/2 = 0.416666…

    So Russia should have a 42% tariff based on their purported 83% tariff on us.

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      Trump seems to think the trade deficit is some sort of debt that we’ll have to pay off in the future.

      The overall goal of bringing manufacturing back to the US isn’t necessarily a bad one, but this is probably the worst way to go about doing it. One article I read pointed out that it would take many years of consistent tariffs to generate that kind of interest and investment - but anyone with half a brain knows these tariffs could be gone tomorrow, so there’s little inclination to actually try to build factories in the US based on this move. No reasonable investor would want to bet their company on Trump acting consistently.

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        …pointed out that it would take many years of consistent tariffs to generate that kind of interest and investment…

        That’s the scary thing. Citrus-Hitler assumes he’s gonna have himself and his policies in place for “many years of consistent tariffs.”

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      Looks more like Russia and USA are in the same trade embargo, while the rest of the world is free to do whatever they want.

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        If anybody is paralyzed it might be Sk and Japan but SK is already jumping ship and trading with China, now.

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    For context, Cuba, North Korea, and Belarus are also not tariffed because they are sanctioned instead.

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      I wondered the same thing. Why would you add tariffs if it’s illegal to even trade with them?

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        One wouldn’t, which makes all the Krasnov comments in this situation entertaining.

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    Un-fucking-real.

    This presidency will be such a shit stain on the world. The world will never trust the U.S. in the same way it did before.

    Over a century of trust and partnerships destroyed in less than 100 days.

    • lowleekun@ani.social
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      As well as it should not trust the U.S. the same again. While i absolutely despise the orange turd he has shown what has been true before: The west has been too reliant on the U.S. ,which both sides enjoyed while it lastet, as the U.S. called the shots, the rest of the west followed and we all benefitted (often on the backs of the global south ofc). No more. Maybe some good will come out of it (strong hopium, i know)

    • finitebanjo@lemmy.worlddeleted by creator
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      Well. The bridge took some damage in the previous Trump admin as well.

      I think far too many people forgot those times.

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    from here https://t.me/s/artjockey_lite

    Dmitriev gave a statement following his meetings in the US. Let me remind you that this was actually the first visit of this level since the beginning of the war, and sanctions were temporarily lifted for it.

    As a result:

    The timing of a new round of negotiations between the US and Russia will be determined in the near future;
    
    The resumption of direct air travel is under discussion;
    
    US businesses are ready to take the place of companies that left from the EU [they know how to appeal to Trump];
    
    Overall, the US is taking a constructive stance and behaving respectfully.
    

    Judging by the statements, the talks were successful, but in practice — the truth is in the outcome. We’ll see whether there are any developments soon regarding the implementation of Russia’s conditions for a “maritime truce” or, on the contrary, whether Russia will make concessions and agree to it without sanctions being lifted.

    Also, a reminder that in a few days, a Ukrainian delegation is set to hold negotiations in the US regarding a resource deal that Trump has already openly referred to as part of a peace agreement.

    All in all, it looks like another round of diplomacy may take place next week. A maritime truce and a signed deal by Ukraine could be on the horizon. If that happens — or even if specific dates are set — the chances of a full ceasefire by the end of the month will significantly increase.