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So, sundar pinchai can be added to the list of CEOs that suck?
Because a lot of the time, it’s weird that when the company does nasty shit, nobody names him as the head asshole in charge the way that other companies and ceos get handled.
The dude has been in the driver’s seat for pretty much every major deterioration of Google/alphabet for years.
list of CEOs that suck?
Isn’t that simply called CEO list?
True, true
sundar pinchai can be added to the list of CEOs that suck?
Been on that list since he became a CEO
Don’t forget current Youtube CEO Neal Mohan and former Youtube CEO Susan Wojcicki!
Damn we were eating good with Susan, comparitivly speaking anyway.
He donated a million to Trump’s “inauguration” and sat in the VIP section, he was already a CEO that sucks.
always has been
Prabhakar Raghavanalso also deserves a dishonorable mention.
it’s weird that when the company does nasty shit, nobody names him as the head asshole in charge the way that other companies and ceos get handled.
hard to remember name (for americans, europeans, or at least me) i assume compare that to “Spez” which is very, very easy to remember and plaster around as the one evil to blame for a systems behavior
On the one hand, less censorship, on the other, something a lot worse.
I hated Google far before it was cool. I would feel vindicated if it weren’t so damn overdue. They don’t even contribute meaningfully to society. And I mean that about EVERYTHING
Gmail is lame, their search engine sucks, chrome wastes resources, their ads platform ruined the internet, Golang fundamentally sucks, the emulation layer of android is so fucking wasteful, Material Design ruined digital creativity, etc.
You think chrome is bad? You should try the GCP console, 2 tabs were using 15GB RAM.
Google search feels like it has stopped being the magic it was. Now whenever I search for something I might not find it underneath all the stuff on sale. For the first time in I don’t know how many years I’ve been finding myself using something else like Duck Duck Go.
The AI nonsense, the flawed ranking and the pages of sponsored links. Honestly, Google is just straight up useless.
I used to use Google shopping to find certain items and compare websites. Now the entire left side that used to be a filter list is replaced. When you click a “filter” option it just adds text to the search bar. Then it will include an essay about why these are your options for something and recommend top brands, but then just list everything.
Consider the decentralized family of https://trom.tf/ apps, such as https://search.trom.tf/ as a replacement (that’s the only one I use of their stuff so far… but may poke around more later).
What a treasure trove. I love lemmy
Yep, that’s intentional. They stopped prioritizing user experience and started prioritizing ad revenue instead a while ago
It’s okay. I gotcha so you don’t got to ssy it
Spicehoarder told y’all so!
What’s wrong with Golang? Agrees on all other points, and perhaps this one as well
The key point here is our programmers… They’re not capable of understanding a brilliant language… So, the language that we give them has to be easy for them to understand ―Rob ‘Commander’ Pike, creator of Go
And here’s a related blog post: https://valuedrivenit.blogspot.com/2015/12/to-go-language-is-mess.html?m=1
It’s a very opinionated language in the worst way possible.
their ads platform ruined the internet
Ads were the bane of the internet FAR before Google even fucking existed. lol
and yet somehow google made it worse. Not only are there more ads than ever before, but now it’s also a panopticon.
Don’tbe evilGoogle should get destroyed
Stop using youtube.
EDIT: A lot of people real fuckin triggered by this and looking for any excuse to keep using. Fucking addicts.
If as many people as possible self host their own peertube, even for just your own videos, it wouldn’t replace youtube completely, but it would be a giant leap in the right direction.
The usual household has nowhere near the upload capacity to meaningfully stream videos.
“As many people as possible” not the usual household.
Even most people hosting at home, which is already an incredibly small bubble, have only the default upload of something like 40Mbit which is more than plenty for internet usage and thus the only thing most providers supply, since people favour download speeds. You usually have to specifically order increased uploads speed, which not enough people do to build something that could serve as an alternative to youtube
Idk what to tell you man, I was just saying it would be cool if more people made a personal Peertube. Didn’t say everyone and their mother needed to make one, just that it would be nice if as many people as possible could make one. Again, I get that it can be hard, or not possible for most people, but if more people could make one, and made one, that would be cool.
And I agree wholeheartedly. I’m just saying, that the idea of replacing YouTube with something federated fails due to lack of upload speeds, as cool as it would be. Still, having it even just as a small scale alternative would be cool
Any suggestions where to go? I mostly watch warhammer painting content such as tutorials for techniques I don’t know and video game content either long form retrospectives to fall asleep or guides for what I am playing. I’ve tried to get off YouTube completely but these specific niches are all that’s left for me.
Cant help you with this specific type of content, but you could use Invidious.io to watch YouTube Videos. Still better than nothing. No Google API, No Tracking, no Ads and pre installed SponsorBlock.
Thanks. I can def do that on my phone. Don’t know much about how to do it on Apple TVs or Rokus but I very seldom use them for YouTube anymore anyway.
Definitely stop
Judging a captive market for not being able to break free from a monopoly is just another form of oppression, buddy.
What else has such a catalog? Going to be hard to persuade creators to host their own content with ads and subscriptions.
Catalog of what?
It’s not an easy answer, but the best way I’ve found so far is to use GrayJay.
If I find that one of the content creators I follow on YouTube happen to post their content on any other platform, I switch my subscription to that platform.
Besides YouTube they support Nebula, Twitch, Odysee, PeerTube, Dailymotion, Bitchute, Kick, BiliBili, Rumble, Patreon, and more.
Some of those, particularly Odysee and Rumble have much worse Nazis. They are the platforms of choice for British National Socialist Movement and Patriotic Alternative.
Yeah rumble is made by and for Nazis.
And Kick is a cesspool gambling-friendly “free speech” Twitch alternative.
Not just catalog for viewing. What other platform can I use as cloud storage for video files for free? I have hundreds of hours of stuff uploaded there.
Store on a hard drive instead.
They are all stored on local hdds, in fact I have two copies locally. I said it’s my cloud storage, my backup off site.
Sounds like you don’t need cloud storage then.
Except I do, because I don’t have off site storage. 3-2-1 my friend. If my house burnt down, without the cloud storage I’d lose everything. Separate local copies is good for defending against disk failure.
If your data isn’t worth a few bucks to secure maybe it isn’t worth the redundancies in the first place. Keep making excuses and hope they keep allowing you to access your data “for free” or at all.
What other platform can I use as cloud storage for video files for free?
None. YouTube included.
I mean, I do use YT as cloud storage for free. And before you say the “nothing is free line,” note my other replies.
Nope. The admin of sh.itjust.works lets you use their storage for free. Google does not.
There are things that are free, Youtube is not one of them.
Okay, as I said in my other replies, the videos are unlisted, not monetized, and I don’t pay for it. What is not free about that?
Is money is the only thing about yourself that you ascribe value to?
What other platform can I use as cloud storage for video files for free?
If it’s free, you are the product (ad views), not the consumer (ad sales). Suck it up and pay for hard drives.
I have many hard drives, and none of the videos are monetized or even publically listed. As I said, it’s my cloud storage, my offsite backup.
And I’m saying you’re not paying for it, and that’s the problem. Everyone got way too comfortable with getting “free” shit from corporations that would trample our rights the second it became convenient for them.
Just here to say it’s fucking WILD that you’re being downvoted
If I’m using YT as cloud backup storage for hundreds of hours of video that is unlisted, unmonetized, how am I helping them trample rights?
Their ability to trample rights because of how much profit they make from horrible content is directly related to their ability to give you that space for free. “I’m not directly contributing” is a real weak excuse to keep using it, in my personal opinion.
Maybe people could read more?
Nobody needs this endless “content” slop.
For real people need to get a grip if they can’t survive without it. They’re addicted.
Maybe people could read more?
Hell yeah I love audiobooks /s
totally agree with reading more. text is easy to consume, easy to store, (somewhat) easy to verify (if sources are provided), and it keeps (if using dead trees for storage). ever since the pandemic i started reading more and must say i really like it
Hell yeah. Let’s hear it for the readers. Let’s hear it for footnotes. Let’s hear it for references. Let’s hear it for bibliographies. Let’s hear it for the more in depth ideas that can be explored via text than video or audio.
Some content lends itself well to written format. Lots of content does not.
absolutely agree. i just wanted to point out that not everything has to be a video
There’s an incredible amount of educational and fun content on YouTube, just because you watch slop and it’s associated recommendations, doesn’t mean I or others do.
Hmm yes I’ll just read about how cool two bullets hitting each other in slowmotion looks. Much better experience than watching it /s
Horse shit.
Reading vs TV was a tired debate in the eighties. YouTube is no different than tv. Hell, in some ways, because it isn’t all controlled by oligarchs entirely, I would argue that it’s easier to find good things on YouTube than it ever was on broadcast or cable tv.
Also, ablist much? How about the blind and dyslexic? Are they fucked just because you don’t like that format?
Yeah, fuck YouTube as a platform, and fuck Google/alphabet, but don’t pretend to be the arbiter of entertainment.
How about the blind and dyslexic
Last I checked braille exists and so do tools for dyslexic readers. There are literally braille terminals for the blind. Hell, the first time I saw one was in the film Sneakers in 1992.
It’s actually very easily argued that the push to touch-screen and video everything is what is actually ableist and making braille be used far less because companies are more worried about what’s cheap than what is actually useful.
Don’t be disingenuous.
Yeah, that’s some projection. You weren’t being disingenuous to pretend that videos are more helpful to the blind than braille? Get a grip.
We’re talking about a company that is happily trampling over the rights of individuals right now, you don’t think the disabled won’t be next on their chopping block?
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And who is going to pay for the bandwidth and storage space on those peertube instances?
I mean, I too want to get away from YouTube, but it is going to be very difficult to convince people to pay for what YouTube gives away for free.
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Yeah and it turns out that this isn’t working well. https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues/5783 Video is an unsolved problem, it’s great people are working on it but we aren’t there yet. PeerTube is not a viable YouTube alternative.
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Wtf
They are already there, and someone is paying for the storage and bandwidth for what’s already there. Asking for random people to start pulling videos from YouTube and uploading them to someone else’s server is going to very quickly make that server go away.
And yes, I have tried Peertube. My experience is when I click a Peertube link from Lemmy, 9/10 it is a dead link.
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Newest version of lemmy fixed this quite well. Take a look: https://lemmy.world/post/27751672
Old lemmy broke a lot of activityhub stuff unfortunately.
I dont think its ok to just rip peoples content without their permission.
Riots don’t work unless you smash some windows
Smashing your local mom-and-pop shop will surely show big businesses that you’re serious /s
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Lots of popular Youtubers are already there, and they strip the sponsor segments out of their content too.
The popular YouTubers are trash tho
Nebula doesn’t have that kind of ‘popular’ YouTubers, it’s a creator-made platform that’s more focused on science and documentary channels. I don’t think I’ve seen anything on Nebula even remotely related to gaming.
There’s definitely gaming content on there, but what I’ve seen has been of the long-form analysis type.
Most of them are literally Nazis. Anytime I go to youtube and finish a video all the suggested videos to watch after are obscene “anti-woke” trash.
The youtube to right-wing pipeline is real.
EDIT:
Here’s after me watching an old Lightning Bolt music video. Six videos are related to Lightning Bolt, being live videos or music videos, but a solid four videos are all weird right-wing Nazi pipeline shit. One defending Trump and saying he has a plan, one lamenting the pushback against Tesla, one shitting on the new Snow White for being “woke,” and one literally with the giant title “fuck your pronouns.” Plus one old cartoon and an episode of Surrounded with one doctor vs. twenty anti-vax (I am not convinced this Surrounded show actually does anything helpful for any discourse.) I have watch history disabled so none of this comes from my watch history, this is the default that youtube gives to people.
MSN is also terrible about this shit. I turned off their new tab garbage and replaced it with Bonjourr right before the election because of all the misinformation it was showing. Crazy we just accept this shit man.
As for YouTube, this is very easy to verify. Sign out of YouTube > CTRL+F5 > look at the top viewed videos
You will see what garbage most of the populace sees when they go to YouTube without logging in. I believe this is the real reason they don’t care if people log in or not. They can push the narrative while seeming like they’re being good guys by allowing you to consume content “for free”.
Weird.
Mine is just Anime, vtuber, tech (the good kind) and edutainment (e.g. kurzgesagt, real engineering, ezc.).Maybe you engage heavily in political content because I mostly avoid it like the plague.
I have watch history disabled
Man how many people fail to fucking read this is literally re-enforcing my point that maybe more people need to read. This me, quoting myself, from above. Further, someone else made the same kind of comment over a half hour ago and I responded the same, noting that I had already mentioned that I have watch history disabled, so Youtube does not and cannot give me recommendations based on my watch history.
I actually almost never watch Youtube except for the odd video game trailer or random comedy-shit-post-snippet. I don’t have any subscriptions or channels I care about. I read.
That’s a you problem. Why are you complaining?
Let me know if you find any of that trash on Nebula.
Yeah, exactly. This argument about YouTube isn’t relevant to Nebula.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure that Nebula is all “bread tubers” and left adjacent.
The top right video is a video absolutely dumpstering Tesla and calling it a worthless stock. Your recommendations will also highly depend on what video you were just watching, could it be that users who watch your video also happen to watch these other videos? Is that the platforms fault?
dumpstering Tesla and calling it a worthless stock.
Oh, so it’s just wall street dick sucking and pretending the whole “market” isn’t just a rigged game? Counts as right-wing slop to me.
Is that the platforms fault?
Considering we have a fuck-ton of evidence from research that it isn’t just what other people watch that determines it: Yes, it is actually. Sorry these aren’t fucking videos so that you’ll actually pay attention to them.
https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3351095.3372879
A lot of defense for a company that is literally in the process of saying “fuck your rights” to the same people being attacked in a lot of these videos. Jesus christ.
Dude chill out, why are you so angry? I merely pointed out that one of the videos does not support your claims and suggested an alternative hypothesis
Sorry for upsetting you with discussion hot damn
Username checks out.
Maybe take a break dude, no need to be this hostile over some youtube videos
Wow your YouTube recommendations are very different from mine.
I have watch history disabled
Funny think about that.
I also had it disabled, started watching a longer(ish) video, closed the video and enabled history and somehow YouTube knew how much I already watched before history was on.
So my guess is that history off is only for the user, YouTube knows anyway, it just pretends not to store it
Well, that might be the cause. Kinda scary you get recommendations like that just due to no history.
You’re correct but the “He has a plan” one is from Money & Macro, a leftist (Marxist-friendly) economics channel. He’s trying to explain the broader strategy behind the tariffs, which (from skimming the video) seems similar to a theory Yanis Varoufakis had as well. I think it’s much simpler than that though… I think they’re just a sloppy way to appear tough on the world stage while crashing the economy so the ultrarich can pick up the pieces, but that’s just me.
Anyway you’re correct about the rest I think. And tbh even one pipeline video in the top recommended is too many.
None of that has anything to do with the creators on Nebula or the Nebula platform itself.
Sadly I couldn’t get it to stream reliably though it’s been a few months since I unsubscribed.
Interesting, I’ve never had an issue with the video stream on nebula
The only way to pay for subscription is with a credit card, no thank you, my culture mostly doesn’t use those and I don’t have or want one.
I refuse to support them after they kicked Second Thought off the platform for supporting Palestinians over the GDF
First I’m hearing but that doesn’t surprise me; it’s probably better than most companies you could give your money to but, in any way they could, they don’t do anything truly groundbreaking such that I can justify to myself giving money rather than just keeping said money in my pocket (and, in turn, much more likely to go to mutual aid, charities, non-profits, or coöperatively-owned or union-backed businesses).
They could have done a more traditional coöp, open-sourced their infrastructure (even if it was just the app.!), or really emphasized a particular stance or message they as a company would stand by…but they haven’t done any of those. They basically are just offering up YouTube but as a streaming service. But that doesn’t solve the myriad of issues that make a streaming service a business that (like most businesses) prey on their customers.
Go outside.
not just stop, rip every half decent video from there and save it somewhere else. Losing everything in youtube is library of alexandria level loss.
Do it fast, they’re trying to kill yt-dlp with DRM.
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I recommend you take strides to learn how propaganda works, most specifically the purpose of shifting opinion (i.e. the Overton Window): “I’m just asking questions” and “I’ll let anyone speak” are two of the most effective methods of propaganda. It does not need to be intentional on the part of the interviewer.
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Your problem is that you want to censor ideas you don’t like.
This is a natural result of media controlled by corporate interests. It’s also a misunderstanding of “free speech” – even when you are free to say what you will, it does not mean you are free from the consequences of that speech.
You want to control what other people think by dictating what they get to see and what they’re allowed to share with others.
Again, I suggest looking into how propaganda works. Letting everyone speak about anything (without vetting of topic, qualifications, or direction) has consequences. We are seeing those consequences now and will continue to see more as the propaganda machine runs wild on the back of “let everyone speak”.
Your view of this is overly simplistic and I am, in the most polite way, attempting to direct you to self improvement. It is a common issue at the moment across all discourse – probably vestigial of the information sharing capabilities now available.
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Ironic
I tried giving you an opportunity, but I’m going to block you now.
I really don’t even know what this means.
I wish the best for you.
no, when you obviously spouting misinformation its within peoples rights not to give you time of thier day. and thats why you would be banned in reddit surely as here eventually for the right reasons.
Companies censor ideas all the time. McDonald’s employees don’t tell their customers how ugly they are… it’s against company policy. Youtube is a company that can implement whatever company policies they like and if you don’t like it you can go somewhere else.
BASED
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We need a good federated youtube replacement so badly…
PeerTube isn’t bad, it just has no content
It is kinda bad. Especially when it comes to finding content or getting noticed
Yeah, and the platform is set up in a way that hinders onboarding and discoverability of what’s there (at least, compared to youtube’s approach…). These are all problems that prevent it from replacing YouTube. If you read Peertube’s official site they even say upfront that they’re not trying to be a YouTube replacement
It seems so difficult to use though
It’s always a question of money. It costs money to make quality content. YouTube has content because they share ad revenue to their content providers. That expands the more popular the content is because there are more ads displayed. That revenue lets the creators expand their capabilities with better gear and stage sets. Federated networks usually depend initially on volunteers and alternative ways of earning revenue for those instances besides ads.
It’s even more difficult since the content has to be stored somewhere, and needs to be streamed which requires storage and processing power, with the latter needing to be able to scale so the user experience doesn’t get bogged down by new people joining.
The entire revenue model of compensating the host and content creator does require a rethink, but it’s hard to see how that could be done without paywalling access to host, view, and/or both of the above.
Tbh money could be the initiative. So many content creators nowadays have platforms beside YouTube. Often even self hosted weboages. If a federated alternative would come up, they could just set up an own server and keep all the earnings.
This would somehow need to get started though. No idea how.
What international alternatives exist for YouTube? And I understand RedNote as an alternative for TikTok, but YouTube fills a little bit of a different niche.
The closest, at least outside of China, would be Dailymotion.
Allas, if you want to stay away from YouTube, you’ll also want to stay away from Dailymotion. This platform is owned by Vincent Bolloré who is also the owner of the “Groupe Canal” (which includes “CNews”, the french equivalent to Fox News) and a number of different far-right media. Moving to Dailymotion is not exacly what I would call a smart one.
feel like thats specific to pirated media. i remember i watch pirated shows on there all the time.
No one wants to talk about PeerTube?
I don’t think it’s possible for PeerTube to scale to a size where it would be capable of competing with Youtube.
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PeerTube is just software. It’s a decentralized network. It doesn’t have to scale to that size. You can have a million servers handling the storage and streaming in a more efficient method and democratize the bandwidth.
Who’s paying to run a million servers?
Hosts and users who want their stuff available to their audience without YouTube’s bullshit.
Same people that pay for lemmy. Us.
It doesn’t take much to host peertube TBH. And with each peertube instance, the videos get easier to host. It scales very well with the current iteration of software.
The two biggest issues are actually not software related:
- A platform is only as good as its users (creators and users who interact). Peertube has the issue that its not very popular, so creators have to really plug their stuff.
- Its not profitable for creators UNLESS they add a way to monetize. Some argue that with secondary sources such as patreon, its not an issue, But I just don’t see it.
Im pretty happy with what it does NOW. I like the ability to post my videos and get comments without getting flagged for whatever on Youtube. I like my friends and family (and sometimes us weirdos) looking at my videos. And I like the slow trickle of people hosting their videos on say makertube, peertube.wtf, and other such platforms. They seem like really fun individuals and im having a blast.
The two biggest issues are actually not software related
I disagree, the biggest issues are related to discoverability, and most certainly software-related.
Peertube has the issue that its not very popular, so creators have to really plug their stuff.
Not necessarily. They only need to agree to allow an instance to mirror their content, and possibly one day contribute something to it in the event that it becomes popular enough. For now, consent is really all that’s required. The only revenue they’re missing out on is AdSense.
Its not profitable for creators UNLESS they add a way to monetize. Some argue that with secondary sources such as patreon, its not an issue, But I just don’t see it.
Patreon is one of many different ways to generate revenue. Most popular Youtubers are diversifying in various ways. The most effective of which is creating their own products and using their channels to promote them. Affiliate links/codes is another way smaller creators can diversify.
I like the ability to post my videos and get comments without getting flagged for whatever on Youtube.
As always, with freedom comes abuse. Youtube has a lot of regulations that can be cumbersome but also can protect creators and users.
There’s a couple Lemmy communies out there where we showcase different channels.
https://lemmy.world/c/peertube
Check out top for a decent selection. It’s a somewhat new community but we are growing fast. It’s federated and has some hidden gems from people. Has a very early YouTube feel.
Because the user experience is horrible for non-creators.
User experience can be improved pretty easily.
The important parts are already there.
Easier said than done. Reason after all these years it still hasn’t been addressed.
I really don’t think it is.
As an engineer with almost 2 decades of experience (including streaming sites)… It is.
Well, we’d have to be more specific about what parts of the “user experience” we’re talking about here in order to make that assessment.
I’m mostly talking about discoverability, the default algorithms, the lack of federation, and a way to actually filter content by language.
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That’s optional. You have to opt in to mirror a server.
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The server itself has the option to turn that off or on. And most dont turn that on. Its off by default.
Source: I host a peertube instance.
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There really isn’t one. That’s why they feel that they can do whatever they feel like. They have no real competition for the type of service they offer.
Peertube is the obvious candidate, but I’m not sold on the content.
I use nebula.tv, many of the creators I like are there too. You pay somerhing, but their business model is not too bad imho.
Floatplane is somewhat similar, but LMG is involved, which I don’t love.
What’s wrong with LMG?
Linus media group
As reported from a substack writer… 🤮
Substack platforms and monetizes Nazis.
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Mind providing a bit more context to this so I can look it up ? I’ll boycott substick if need be.
https://www.platformer.news/leaving-substack-platformer-year-four/ This looks to be straight from the person that BroBot9000 was referring to. Interesting read.
I found some older news articles, but nothing more recent for an update.
https://techcrunch.com/2024/01/09/substack-nazi-content-policies-controversy/
https://theracket.news/p/substacks-nazi-problem-isnt-going-away?ref=platformer.news
This one’s more recent. As of six months ago, still a problem.
When an influential group of powerful people make hate speech a part of their standard rhetoric, is EXACTLY when you MUST block it on your platform, not a signal that it’s time to start letting it slide, you fucking pricks.
Pichai kissed the ring. He’s colluding with the person who tried to overturn the elections and install himself as a ruler.
All of the billionaires that were at the inauguration are in the same boat. I’m at a point where I believe the crimes of any of them should be tried and convicted with the punishments being doled out collectively to all colluders, but that’s me.
I’d be going for the death penalty from the prosecution side, since it seems like that is what we do now to people who cause one or more people to die, no matter how unethical the victim(s) were.
I wonder if Tim Cook is there too. It would make sense for him and Apple to resist this at least somehow but…
Tim Cook is just as fucking evil as the rest of them.
Don’tBe EvilSlavishly Follow the Fascist Government’s Lead
I am a building
WHO ARE YOU I AM FROM ANCIENT GREECE
If you don’t use the strikeout, you can save millions of dollar on toner/ink from not printing out an extra word at a corpo that big. I think I deserve a promotion for that insight as well, well worth the extra money!
Do the “right” thing.
And people judged me for watching YouTube with uBlock Origin, or via NewPipe for eons.
Look who’s laughing now.
YouTube on mobile is intolerable these days. NewPipe is the way for Android, though Google is in a constant battle to disable it.
youtube is too infested with ads, to make me disable ublock origin for my favorite channels. in anycase most of the channels become greedy pos overtime anyways. outside of pet one/animals/stem ones, ones that are just gossip or reaction or like mr beasts videos are no good.
Those aren’t opinions I would care about in the first place. Somebody thinks you should be watching ads? WTF?
There’s some justification for this idea since the people who buy the products advertised by ads are the source of the money that goes to the producers of the videos.
but google’s profits!!!
Please think about billionaires!
Good lord, the amount of idiots that white knighted me for using uBlock.
“WOULD U WORK FOR FREEEEE???”
Like fuck off no I wouldn’t. I also dont buy up every other company I see, turn it to shit and then try to force a political agenda through it, and guess who IS doing that using billions of dollars? Yep, Google.
Won’t someone think of the shareholders?
/s
That is why centralized platforms, especially powerful ones, are sitting ducks waiting to become even more corrupt. Why more people are not leaving centralized services is a crime against humanity as it is clear that supporting theme means society suffers.
The ‘not leaving centralized services’ thing isn’t really helped when there’s basically no other viable alternatives, like is the case with YT. PeerTube exists, sure, but it’s a content desert, sadly.
Now, if PeerTube had more content to choose from…
Really though, Reddit, Meta, Twitter, and Discord all have viable decentralized alternatives in the form of Lemmy, Pixelfed, Mastodon (Mastodon serving as an alternative for both Facebook and Twitter), and Matrix respectively, why can’t PeerTube serve as a truly viable decentralized alternative for YT?
Even Linux is in its glow-up arc as a viable Windows alternative lately ffs, and I’m glad to have been on that bandwagon for years before that platform started gaining mainstream attention.
It’s frightening. Why do people not make an effort to leave Reddit?
How can the same people run a dictatorship of the proletariat? Even democracy, I don’t see how society as a whole can avoid being manipulated.
As i signed up for this sub, I thought I’d be reading about technology. Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology, so naturally they call everyone nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean.
Just because someone doesn’t want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn’t mean they’re nazis. But I guess that’s not something that this sub is ready to face.
Thanks?
nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean
I am Jack’s complete lack of self awareness
Just your garden variety bigots and assholes then?
Also, I think you should read up on what facisim is and why it’s being so widely used right now as highly oppressive rhetoric is being pushed from many far-right leaders throughout the world.
I know exactly what fascism means, and often what the left is doing aligns better with the definition than what the right is doing. Also, let’s not forget that “nazi” is a short form for “national socialism”
get fucked bigot
Your reply and your up votes just prove what I said. You’re not allowed to disagree with the rhetoric around here.
No, you’re definitely allowed. Otherwise you’d have had your comments removed from the public discourse.
The up and downs just gauge public approval to the comment. Remember, you’re also free to up and down vote to voice your disagreement.
Also remember, if you think everyone around you are assholes then likely you’re the asshole.
Edit: I just saw your other comment on the lack of variety of posts. Be the change you want to see. Find something interesting and make a post!
Sure, if your issue is that it’s okay for corporations to remove protections for hate speech towards marginalized groups, then yes, go get bent. This kind of false equivalence between normalizing hate and ostraciszing progressives for speaking out against oppression is EXACTLY what we’re fighting against. What in the hell is the ‘rhetoric’ do you disagree with? Having empathy for lgbtq+ people? Jesus. If so, this is definitely not the place for you.
Speaking about false equivalence, how did you came to the conclusion that just because I don’t find a corporation removing gender stuff from their policies relevant from a technological stand point - makes me an LGBT hater? You seem to already have made your mind, you probably did assume that I’m a trump supporter who wanna see gays being hanged, even though I was saying that I expected more tech and less gender politics from this sub.
There are a lot of subs dedicated to LGBT, I came here for tech. Which sub would in your opinion be more appropriate for tech talk if not this one?
When big Tech, especially the biggest video platform in the world, does something like this it is relevant to tech. The better question is, if you do support lgbtq+ people, why the public freakout about mentioning a far reaching tech policy, by one of the biggest (if not THE biggest) tech company in the world, on a tech sub?
You are welcome to disagree and people are welcome to tell you off. That’s how speech works. Or should we tip to around disagreeing with you?
Of course everyone is allowed to speak their mind. But being called names for not supporting a particular point of view sounds like hate speech to me, wouldn’t you agree?
abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice on the basis of ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, or most importantly against people who have just the worst takes.
Hmmm, checks out. I guess the technology platform, YouTube, should get right on that too.
No, hate speech is targeting someone for how they were born. (Skin color, sexual orientatio, gender identity, ect.) Reacting to someone saying stupid shit is not hate speech and dilutes the meaning of the word to use it that way.
I’m with you on the “they’re not Nazi thing”
I think Lemmy is being a space for targeted radicalization for certain groups.
But still I think you’re wrong that we can separate technology from this political stuff right now. It’s not separate. Technology is the medium that groups are using to spread this stuff. It’s important and interesting to see how they’re doing it.
Content should focus on the tech side of it. And also why be angry at the side that’s just trying to protect their freedoms here. If it wasn’t for the people trying to limit their freedoms, we’d never hear of this stuff.
The issue isn’t people trying to identify as another gender. It’s the people saying no they can’t and then abusing their power and influence to do it.
Sure, you can’t always separate the technology from the politics, my issue was that this is what most posts around here are about. I took a look and most content comes a few accounts, and it’s always about the “nazi this” and “fascist that”. Is that really only thing that happens in the tech space, what Musk said and what YouTube changed in their policy?
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Seeing as you apparently need someone to look the word up for you.
Fascism : a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition
Let’s see.
- Christian nationalism is a huge part of Trumps support group
- Cops target brown people to attempt to deport them and Trump pardons them for ignoring court orders to stop (Joe Apaio)
- Trump continues to deport people based on skin and looks without due process. Ignoring courts telling him to stop.
- Trumps America first slogan is eerily similar to Hitlers slogan.
- Trump is starting to isolate the US from the rest of the world (but curiously not Russia)
But I do agree, they’re not Nazis, they’re MAGA. Their own brand of fascism.
Womp womp, get bent and bootlick Trump in hopes he might acknowledge you for his next grift.
Hang on. I just scrolled down the comments list for a couple of minutes and didn’t see anyone calling anyone else a Nazi or a fascist. What are you going on about?
And YouTube is a company. They don’t believe in anything except increasing shareholder value. It’s got nothing about far left or whatever. Gender identity isn’t even a far left idea, unless your Overton window is skewed.
Also, you’ve just sort of outed yourself unnecessarily as an ignorant bigot in a left leaning community with your statement:
Just because someone doesn’t want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn’t mean they’re nazis
Of course they’re not Nazis. No one’s calling them a Nazi. They’re calling that someone a bigot.
Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology
Actually, it’s people who are concerned about companies kowtowing to a fascist regime, the Trump government.
