Switch l2
Why’d you ommit the price of the layer 2 switch? curious
If we’re talking home use, you can buy enterprise switches for less than $100 on the secondary market. I got a 1GB PoE 24 port managed switch for $35.
I think Cisco is working to remove the points about uptime and not having lags/crashes
We are currently moving away from cisco because they want 12k+ for a new switch. Juniper or HP for us i think.
That’s why you don’t buy Cisco
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1080p on such a small screen is pointless, but if you’re into that by the price of one Nintendo game you can upgrade your steam deck screen https://www.deckhd.com/
120Hz is not that different from the decks 90Hz screen, although if you chose to do the upgrade above that downgrades you to 60.
Mouse mode, not sure what that is, but the deck has the best of it’s kind mouse emulation so I think it will be hard for the switch to compete.
Plus I get to keep my games, and whenever the SD2 comes out I’ll get to keep my games and not have to buy them again.
This is probably the only time Nintendo has come out of the gate with superior hardware and I actually don’t give a shit, why on earth would I want to buy a steam deck that is locked behind corporate control and price gouging?
I don’t give a shit how fast the scrreen refreshes or how fancy some of the features, I want a computer that can play games, I don’t want a toy that is purposefully broken so I can’t use it for things I want to use it for, ESPECIALLY if I drop hundreds and hundreds of dollars on it.
Nope.
why on earth would I want to buy a steam deck that is locked behind corporate control
from context I think you wanted to write nintendo
Yeah, I was trying to say the switch can be thought of as a steam deck that is locked behind corporate control.
oh! I understand it now, sorry
I understand why you think this, but its kind of wrong. Because Nintendo has had the upper hand with hardware many times.
- SNES was arguably better than Genesis system
- N64 has much more raw power than my favorite system the PS1
- GameCube was stronger than PS2 and Dreamcast
And yes, I’ll just wait and use my steam deck until SD2, because I also just want a computer that I can play games on.
I stand corrected, I guess I was comparing the gamecube to an xbox, but yeah agreed, I just bought a second steam deck OLED when I already had the LCD model because honestly I think the economy is going to crash hard and it is going to be a long road to affordably getting a gaming device in the US for the foreseeable future.
It is a shitty situation to be in, but I didn’t even hesitate because the current calculus is a no brainer. I have Blender on my Steam Deck and I am using it to create cool visualizations of Lidar data for Geology, Nintendo would respond to a statement like this with something like “yeah, that is cool but it sounds very niche, people don’t need that” and my response is “Fuck you, you haven’t even let people try”.
I heard of another Geologist bringing in their steam deck to present a talk off of it instead of a laptop too, these kinds of interesting unusual use cases aren’t trivial and hyper individual, they represent people developing the future of handheld computers in real time, and Nintendo has completely lost the plot here. The Steam Deck really isn’t a gaming device, it is a gaming device that Trojan Horses you into having an awesome handheld linux computer that can also play your favorite games.
If Nintendo thinks they can compete with the Steam Deck by just selling a better handheld gaming console, they are so fucked… or at the very least they are walking away from what will actually be the next big growth area in computers (that people were SURE AI and VR would be).
Nintendo execs are likely sitting there being like “damn we are going to make so much money selling the best handheld gaming console and completely dominate the handheld gaming console market so we can charge $100 a game” while missing the MUCH LARGER profit opportunity of evolving their handheld console into a handheld computer.
Think about it, Nintendo is in the perfect position to evolve their Switch into more and more of a computer, and it would give them a MASSIVE new horizon of growth opportunities especially since countless kids grow up playing on Switches and already know how to use them inside out… it would help Nintendo protect itself from encroachment by other big tech, and do any number of other longterm things for Nintendo’s growth and profit.
Instead the idiots want to gouge people for more money by squeezing ONLY the gaming potential out of the switch, it is pathetic and I wish legislation around the world didn’t allow massive corporations to behave this foolishly in trying to close down their systems so they don’t accidentally create the “wrong” kind of value or innovation.
This is exactly why I purchased a steam deck. My gaming PC died (RIP to a real one), and I needed something for general use more than I did for gaming.
I need to check the price of broken steam decks, there are so many fun project’s I could do if I had the motherboard or daughter boards in the steam deck, and no I need my current steam deck intact to play on
SNES was arguably better than Genesis system
The SNES and Genesis were comparable. You could argue one or the other, but it was a tighter race than the Playstation 3 curb-stomping the Wii.
N64 has much more raw power than my favorite system the PS1
Playstation had CD-ROM, and that’s all that needs to be said about that battle.
GameCube was stronger than PS2 and Dreamcast
Comparing the GameCube with the PS2, it had less VRAM, less RAM, a faster CPU, roughly equiv video processor. I would say they were about equal, and that’s with GameCube coming out two years later.
The PS2 was also the strongest console to ever fight in any sort of console war, with its ridiculously large library of games. PS2 punished Sega so hard they permanent removed themselves out of the race, and Nintendo had to completely change strategies to fill a different niche and audience, which worked with the Wii. However, that came with the dumbing down of hardware that everybody is talking about. They have been pushing shitty outdated hardware ever since.
Ah yes, console released over 30 years ago.
I have a Steam Deck definitely felt no need to get either the Switch 1 or 2.
“Mouse mode”
Yeah, the Steam Deck has that. Its called dual touchpads, and unlike the Switch 2 you can easily switch from analog stick to touchpad (they also have more functionality and are actually utilized to their full potential with desktop mode).
PCs literally had “mouse mode” gaming since the 80s. The Amiga/ATARI ST already had them, too.
Consoles have been behind the times for decades.
I dunno what y’all are talking about, the Deck chip (Van Gogh, 7nm, Zen 2 but with Rembrandt-era SoC features, RDNA2) is “newer” than the Ampere chip (circa 2020) in the Switch 2.
Nintendo games never come down in price either.
BotW is still going for what it did on day one. Even second hand copies go for nearly that.
Although it does mean you can basically rent them for as long as you want for a few dollars if you sell it again afterwards…
Soon as I heard about the price of games I was out
We have a switch 1 and the game price has been the driving factor preventing us from investing more in the platform. The games are too expensive, go on sale too infrequently and not for low enough prices. Just not the ecosystem for my family right now
Yeah, I have a Switch too but it’s not been turned on in maybe two years, getting a Steam Deck basically retired it
You all whine and say fuck this and that corporation, but you all will buy that new game for christmas or whatever, because you were conditioned into consumerism.
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The price hike is coming to Steam soon, some corporations just waiting for the US tariffs to maybe go away, then comes regional pricing to the US.
Why would the tariffs have any impact on game prices? The import prices, so they don’t apply to digital goods.
Do you have any basis for that? Is it announced? Also, do you know that games on Steam are not priced by Steam, but individual publishers?
I don’t thing tariffs include digital goods and services.
At least games on Steam get discounted or reduced over time. Fuck Nintendo and their pricing.
I’m done giving money to Nintendo. Their litigious behavior is inexcusable. Just ask the parrot on my shoulder. He’s on the same side as my eye patch.
I laughed when they showed their game chat mode as some accomplishment. They spent years just making discord…
Another funny moment was when the Civ VII dude said something like “if you already have Civ VII you will be able to play the enhanced switch 2 mode!.. After purchasing the upgrade.”
They’re so unapologetically greedy.
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A Steamdeck can emulate a Switch. The number of exclusive games for the Switch 2 will be so pitiful it would scarcely justify a purchase though I’m sure some people will buy it. I also think that a Steamdeck 2 can’t be far off appearing.
Whenever there’s a multiplatform game I’m interested in I add it to my wishlist on the Switch, PS5 and Deck. I almost always end up buying it off Steam because it ends up being cheaper on it. So the Switch and PS5 have been reduced for exclusives only.
