• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    We can’t afford to waste this chance…

    There is zero reason to settle for “not trump” we need to use Republican Inaptitude to get a decent progressive in power , there’s zero reason to compromise with Republicans after this shit.

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      2 years ago

      They are already trying to setup Kamala for 2028. I have zero faith that the Democrats are going to learn anything from their failure

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        2 years ago

        They don’t want to win. At least not with someone who would bring change. Why would they, they are all multimillionaires.

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        They are already trying to setup Kamala for 2028.

        Who is “they”?

        We have a DNC chair that at worst will be impartial.

        And Harris has zero chance of winning a fair primary.

        The only way a neoliberal can win a primary is if the party hands it to them.

        The only way a Republican becomes president, is if the only other choice is a neoliberals.

        The only reason the Republicans have the house, is because of “victory fund” bankrupting stat parties.

        We really didn’t need much, and we got it. Which is why we desperately need to capitalize and move the Overton window as far left as possible while we can

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          “Impartial” like when Bernie Sanders was winning, and every Democrat decided to fold for Biden.

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            And the “Liberal MSM” started running “Bernie loves Castro” stories left and right. Hell one of the chucklefucks at “far left MSNBC” said that if Bernie won he’d put people like himself “against the wall” invoking an image of firing squad executions…

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      2 years ago

      I don’t know that there’s a ‘we’ here, as the billionaires run the Democratic Party too and have sued for the privilege of holding undemocratic primaries.

      With that said, the SHTA precipitating the historic Senate loss isn’t the only historical pattern working against Trump in 2026.

      Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden all entered office with control of Congress and lost control at the mid-terms, so it’s highly likely that will happen again.

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        , as the billionaires run the Democratic Party too

        No, neoliberals have held the DNC chair for decades. And they did whatever billionaires said.

        The current chair of the DNC is not a neoliberal. He used to be Minnesota’s state chair, and if he acts like he did then he’ll be the most progressive chair we’ve had in 30 years, arguably 50 years.

        The fight over the party already happened and the neoliberals lost.

        Don’t blame the new guy for what the old guy did

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          I will believe it matters when I see it, and I’m doubtful 40+ years of masquerading as progressives and ruling as conservatives is going to change anytime soon.

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            and I’m doubtful 40+ years of masquerading as progressives and ruling as conservatives is going to change anytime soon.

            Then it sounds like you’re ignorant both of how the DNC works and Ken Martin’s history running Minnesota’s state party…

            The DNC chair is a dictator, he calls all the shots and is accountable to no one. For all intents and purposes the DNC chair is the national party.

            It’s been less than two months since Martin took over the DNC. Don’t blame him for what happened before he had total control.

            But seriously, look into what Minnesota has been up to. Loads of progressives and turned a battleground into a solid blue state.

            His main concern is winning elections, so he doesn’t fight progressives in primaries, because that’s what voters want.

            This isn’t blind loyalty. If I didn’t have valid reasons to support the DNC I can assure you I wouldn’t be doing it

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              Really admire your optimism here, but I’m far too cynical on Dems to think this can work without a whole new party to replace them. The Democrat brand is so incredibly tarnished by corruption and disingenuousness.

              While you’re right that the DNC chair does hold a lot of power in the party, I struggle to recall a single instance in my lifetime when any dem held real power and leveraged it effectively to benefit the working class.

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                instance in my lifetime

                Because since Jimmy Carter the DNC chair has been further right than the Dem voters base…

                And that stopped being true about two months ago

                Did it ever occur to you why about two months ago suddenly mainstream media started being ok criticizing Dems?

                The oligarchs want us to fail. Because we just won.

                Stop doing what theyre manipulating you into doing

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              2 years ago

              Don’t blame him for what happened before he had total control.

              Don’t expect me to ignore 40+ years of history on the basis of mere promises, when broken Democratic promises paved the road to the fascism we’re having to fight today. Frankly, it’s unreasonable, and no one should expect Democrats to do what they say they’re going to do until they demonstrate it.

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        2 years ago

        Get ready for “we had to pass the $6T in tax cuts for the rich and corporations, simply nothing we could do!” 🤑

        It is imminent.

        They are robbing us absolutely blind here, and using the tariff chaos as cover.