Imagine the leverage you’d need to have to make “the richest person in the world” do a Hitler salute on live TV. Sure, people who tolerate, much less support, Nazi stuff “are Nazis too” but I’m willing to believe that he might not have actual genocidal / thinking races are subhuman / etc beliefs and if he does, it happened recently - way after he became compromised.
To a certain extent, “bad” people succeed in capitalism and become powerful because of inherent personality traits, and a combination of lack of consequences and privilege creating lack of empathy. But to a much greater extent, I think power is handed to people once enough blackmail material is gathered
The pedophilia shit is not a coincidence.
but I’m willing to believe that he might not have actual genocidal / thinking races are subhuman / etc beliefs and if he does, it happened recently - way after he became compromised.
His lineage is literally the Nazi party, he’s been indoctrinated from birth with that shit, not recently
But to a much greater extent, I think power is handed to people once enough blackmail material is gathered
He was born rich and lucked his way to more riches, simple as. Turns out rich idiots just do bad things, so it’s easy to find out that they’ve done so. Quite literally a requirement in capitalism to be a monster if you want to “win”
I’ve been able to find stuff about his mom’s dad being pro apartheid which is obviously bad but is not “literally the Nazis”. And that his dad claims to say apartheid is bad but said some sus stuff over the years.
Even if he didn’t do the work himself and sounded like a complete idiot in that leaked Twitter meeting, he did objectively advance society. I think the world is better off with things like Tesla Amazon Uber and DoorDash. Musk outlived his usefulness long ago though and is a net negative now to the point of almost undoing all the good he may had had a hand in creating. Society can survive this level of capitalism if it prevented generational wealth. The incompetency compounds and the inevitable conclusion has finally revealed itself.
I’ve been able to find stuff about his mom’s dad being pro apartheid which is obviously bad but is not “literally the Nazis”
So you failed to find the part where they left Canada for South Africa because, as members of the Canadian Nazi Party, Canada wasn’t fucked enough for them? It’s like… Basic info on his family
he did objectively advance society.
Lol, no, that would be the people he paid. He deserves 0 credit for that
I think the world is better off with things like Tesla Amazon Uber and DoorDash
Oh, so you’re an idiot, gotcha, gonna just disengage
If you look at the personality organization of malignant narcissists, you learn that their sense of self and even their memory is fragmentary. They’re in the realm of borderline personality organization, which is halfway between neurotic (normal) and schizoid.
This is why it makes sense to them that history should start fresh every day. They don’t connect actions with consequences because their brains are not set up to do that.
I think he wants it removed because of the effect on Tesla. He’d prefer if he could do things without consequences for his actions.
I assume it sucks feeling consequenses for the first time in his life. I hope he feels some more consequenses.
In Musk logic: it’s not bad when he does it. It’s bad when people start discussing it, because they might come to a disapproving conclusion.
That’s a very roundabout way to say that he doesn’t enjoy consequences.
Ignore him, it’s the best you can do to let him disappear
Fascism can’t be ignored, that’s how they get power. That’s how Trump became president.
We are past the point where this shithead can be ignored. He’s in too much of a powerful position for that to work
Well this was the tiny little push I needed to make an account lol
Ahoy
Welcome. If you have any questions, most of us are more than willing to help :)
I joined for the same reasons. The oligarchs can’t easily censor here as they have on reddit.
I thought we were all about deporting immigrants and their children?
Is there confirmation that he actually specifically wanted that image off reddit? Or is this just someone making assumptions after the recent story about him interfering with moderation at reddit?
The latter. There’s no news about blocking his sieg heil, just articles about the doge critique and banning linking to X.
What’s wrong? Just own it already.
Because a nazi Sieg Heil is seen as a bad thing by 90% of the world and if he came out and admitted it was one he would probably lose a few supporters from being on his side (probably not a big amount but some)
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Remember when he was investigated by the SEC for Tweeting out that he was buying back Tesla stock for $420 apiece?
And when he got booted out of the company he started because he insisted on naming it “X” despite everyone telling him that made it sound like a porn site?
And when he accused those divers of being pedophiles because they rescued stranded children before he could find a way to make it about himself?
And when just about every time he announces he’s saved government money, the number “saved” is immediately backtracked?
And how the whole reason he owns Twitter is he made on offer that he immediately tried to back out of and would have if not for the threat of a multimillion dollar suit for breach of contract?
Elon Musk does not think shit through. However smart or stupid he is, however deeply he does or doesn’t believe the Trump Administration’s fascist bullshit, he does not dedicate much time to thinking about it before he does stuff. I do not doubt for a moment that he performed and meant to perform a Nazi salute. As to what he was thinking, I cannot say. Maybe he cannot. He definitely has sympathies for anti-semitic and racist movements, but I don’t think he thought he was going to be hailed as the savior of the Aryan race for doing it. Maybe he thought it would be funny. Maybe he thought it would be “ironic.” Maybe he thought it would get “teh libz” in a tizzy. He probably didn’t think he would have to avoid ever going to Germany again under threat of being arrested. Whatever he was thinking, he probably wasn’t thinking it more than five seconds before he did it. And he’s clearly not thinking it now. Because despite being the richest man on the planet, Elon Musk is a bumblefuck who doesn’t think things through and has thus far been able to buy or otherwise ride his way out of any consequences of the things he has done without thinking about them.
Did Germany make him persona non grata or something? Or is there a standing arrest on sight order for Nazis in general
The latter.
They take neo-fascism seriously.
Oh god it’s like a fucking mirror. Vile.
On TV the heil reaches the target audience in a way of plausoble deniability, on the internet it can be perceived constantly, thought of, discussed. That breeds dissent much more than passive, temporary consumption.
That and he definetely wasn’t expecting the backlash to be as big as it was
On TV the heil reaches the target audience in a way of plausoble deniability
Nope. I saw it live on TV and there was absolutely zero confusion of what it was.
Anyone who thinks differently is dumb as hell.
It was a nazi salute.
That and he definetely wasn’t expecting the backlash to be as big as it was
FUCKING HOW?
Living in an echo chamber can make one pretty deaf to life’s real problems.
FUCKING HOW?
He’s a fucking idiot that’s convinced he’s smarter than everyone else.
And is on Ketamine and probably cocaine.
Honestly? I think he was on cocaine or something at that moment, sure looked like it.
It’s rumored to be ketamine. As in, he loves the stuff.
Asperger’s likely plays a big part here.
Fuck his Nazi ass. Let him stew
Reddit caved to facism. Another coward CEO takes it up the ass from a south African immigrant.
Actions do have consequences. Trying to erase posts and people calling you out for what you did and explaining why those actions are bad does not make those things that you did go away and is honestly a bad look. If you don’t want people on social media calling you a Nazi, there’s a really easy solution for that - don’t do Nazi salutes on live TV, don’t make Nazi puns instead of apologizing, and don’t keep regurgitating anti-semetic conspiracy theories like the “great replacement” conspiracy theory.
These guys love to play the big badass no feeling guy then 3 min later start to play victim and beg for attention. Thanks for callling them out
