• cosmicrookie@lemmy.world
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    What people in the US also need to realize is, that the rest of the world still enjoys more or less unchanged prices on these sites. It is only the US that has put tarrifs on them and it has only affected the American consumers

    On the other hand, American products are getting more expensive everywhere else, because of the rational tarrifs by the usa.

    So it is a double edged sword, but the US is holding it by it’s blade!

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      The US is screaming and holding a hot pan fresh out of the oven, but refusing to just set it down and use the fucking oven mits next time.

      Meanwhile, other countries are watching this happen, but somehow having a relatively difficult time deciding if they maybe want to give it a try with their own government.

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      was an article that EU is gonna get flooded by super cheap items now, china will sell at a loss. that is gonna take shares from US items even more, and US items was already overpriced and gonna become even more expensive.

      its like triple loss for US. they need to lower US wages if they want be able to compete.

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        The American market is a massive part of some companies yes. But most companies only have a small percentage of revenue in the US.

        Listen… the US is just one country. Its a big one and one that buys a lot. But still one country. Many companies can compensate the loss of that market by exploring the many other markets that they have down played. Furthermore, the availability of products that would have gone to the US may even make it cheaper to make and sell products everywhere else than in the US

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    Found the fucking idiots who couldn’t be bothered to vote for Kamala.

    Or that voted for donvict because “R”.

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      Retirement vanishing, social services being cut, tariffs destroying global trust and economy… It’s ok. It’s ok. Because Donald Trump doesn’t laugh. Kamala had a weird laugh. That would’ve been the end of us.

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    A Lemmy post about an article about a Reddit post. The internet feels more and more incestuous every day.

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      I responded to a question on Reddit that I am knowledgeable of to make an educated guess. Then, it turns out OP is a journalist and asked me if he could quote me. But I declined because even though I know the topic well enough, I am not an expert and don’t have the credentials to show for. I mean, I could have allowed OP to quote me and feed my ego, but I don’t want to sow misinformation if I am wrong. And besides, being quoted with my then strange username will make the article strange.

      Yeah, journalism is getting lazier and lazier.

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        I realized journalism was truly dead a few years back when I noticed that most news articles online are just a bunch of Twitter posts talking about the headline. I fantasize about writing a movie where Edward R. Murrow comes back from the dead as a demon and just goes around slaughtering lazy journalists, which forces other journalists to actually do their fucking jobs.

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          BREAKING! Doctor_Satan says he wants to go around slaughtering journalists because quote: They actually don’t do their (censored) jobs.

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          just a bunch of Twitter posts talking about the headline

          Combine that with the dead internet theory and you’ve got yourself a corporate owned propaganda machine on all fronts

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            Yeah now it’s all written by AI, sourcing their info from Twitter and Reddit posts that were also written by AI.

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    See. When countries rely on tariffs to protect local manufacturers - there should be way way way better social system in place and laws protecting working class. Because we are the ones in this case allowing this ineffective manufacturing to exist by paying tariffs

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            Correction: Trump’s father BOUGHT a degree from Wharton.

            No one who actually earned a college degree, especially from a notable college, speaks and acts and makes mistakes like Donald Trump.

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              I’m sure Wharton educated trump. Whether any of it mattered… Well that’s the difference between education and intelligence…

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        There’s also the time JCPenney’s actually had everything at the best price and so they weren’t doing discounts. But everyone was waiting for the ‘sales’. Your average American would rather have something be marked up $200 and then listed as 75% off than just pay $50 regular price.

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          Americans would work as a dishwasher and believe it’s the American dream.

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      Sigh, Its worse than that. Most of us are lazy. Lazy with their thoughts and how they learn new information. By the time they notice how bad they have it wrong you want to slap them. Of course most of them will blame anyone but themselves for their problems.

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      Yup.

      Gonna spend the rest of my life knowing I’m surrounded by fucking morons. And I’m not some genius. I had a typical public education. I guess the difference is I actually paid attention.

      Not a great feeling. Especially since that probably means things aren’t generally gonna get better. Can’t have a good society if it’s overflowing with dipshits.

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Gonna spend the rest of my life knowing I’m surrounded by fucking morons. And I’m not some genius. I had a typical public education. I guess the difference is I actually paid attention.

        Yep, I’m smart enough to know I’m not that smart. But I can at least look around me and go “This isn’t normal, right?”

        It’s a weird fucking curse to have. Smarter than the average American due to the decades of under-funding the education system. I know how to use a computer more than boomers and younger people stuck using machines locked down by corporations.

        Ask me to do a math question higher than high school level? I’m going to flounder. You ask me who was president in 1890 without looking it up, I probably know it. And I know that’s not exactly a flex, it’s probably overall better to know more advanced math than trivia, but it’s just how my brain works.

        And yet I’m still smarter than Trump and his cultists.

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        I’m in the same boat as you. I think I’m pretty middle of the pack. The bottom is filled with genuine morons.

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        What’s the George Carlin quote? Something about how stupid the most average person you know is, then realize that 50% of people are dumber than that?

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      We don’t have that on lock, dipshit. Look around you, the entire world is fucking up royally. We just happen to be one of the biggest shitshows going.

      The fact that you treat Americans like a monolith shows that you’re dumb as fuck too.

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          Who TF is talking g about Healthcare? I love how so many people keep hitting that. MOST OF US KNOW YOU STUPID TWAT. However, millions and millions of us donating money, fighting, and marching can’t fight against the RICHEST MAN ON THE PLANET.

          He’s coming for your country too. Can’t wait.

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        Yeah, I dunno broseph. Lots of other first world countries have things like universal healthcare, paternity leave, significant and mandatory vacation, longer lifespans, generally higher quality of life and happiness, politics that aren’t straight up clown shows, more human rights.

        You’ve successfully nailed an obvious generalization that there are stupid people everywhere, but the point is that stupidity is hyper-concentrated in the good ol’ US of A. As is evident.

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        America, as a nation, is unarguably fucking stupid. The rest of the world has been overly influenced by America, due to it’s wealth and power, for a very long time. We used to say that when America sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold. Recent events have seen a great decoupling of the world from America. We’ve seen that the American way is utterly fucked. America is the turd that is sinking whilst the rest of the world will get more buoyant as the new reality sinks in.

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        I mean. Many countries are still resisting to the right-wing authoritarian push. Canada for example. Americans democratically elected dt, even after he tried to overturn the government and explicitly stated that he would be a dictator. I don’t think that would have been possible in any other country. So yeah, in a sens, Americans are dumb af. Now if you want to make it semantic question, I guess he should have written " a majority" of Americans “electors” are dumb, but it’s kind of implicit IMO. Kind of like saying dogs likes to run, obviously there’s probably some that don’t like to run, but the majority does.

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      This is by design. Decades of eroding education and critical thinking have produced a populace that is highly ignorant and extremely easy to manipulate.

      There is a reason why attacking education is the first thing any right-wing government does.

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        Doesn’t help that a whole lot of idiots also think it’s somehow very clever of them to “rise above” it all by acting like it’s “both sides”. This is what passes (for a special kind of smug idiot) for political acumen.

        Of course, the “liberal media” harps on the “both sides” thing all the freaking time. Which is why I find it mighty curious that a lot of supposed “leftists” take up that mantra, too.

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          *Rightists.

          Right wingers are the only people I hear the “both sides” mantra from. I don’t know what media you’re consuming, but you got it ass backwards.

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            The bullshit “liberal media” does the “both sides” thing all the freaking time.

            And I’m talking about an awful lot of supposed leftists on places like Lemmy that do things like “but Biden’s economy was actually BAD!” and so on. I could go on for other examples…now, whether I believe most of them are actual leftists, I dunno…

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              The thing I hear occasionally and that I actually agree with is that from an outsiders’ perspective, the US has a right wing party and a far-right party.

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        Amongst wealthy countries, the US scores above average in science and reading comprehension, and are only really showing lag in mathematics. In terms of critical thinking, this has been a baked-in element of the curriculum, that was intentionally baked-in, for a long time now. Most countries are this way, and those that have dedicated time to specifically critical thinking, as its own subject, are relatively new, and not many do it, in primary education, yet. So this means the US is not unique in how poorly students are taught critical thinking, amongst countries with similar levels of resources.

        Also, baby boomers demonstrated a lower level of critical thinking skills, than kids do today, they also show sharper cognitive decline, earlier in life, than X, and millennials have been. So is it that the conservatives have been trying to disassemble the public school system, to move funds to privatized education, thus eroding the common access to education? If so, why does the US actually score well compared to its peers? Why is it that the oldest common generation is actually the worst of the common generations, still alive, for things like critical thinking, and cognitive decline?

        So there is some other factor(s) that make the US seem to stand out on this issue, amongst peers. Could it be US media specifically empowering the voice of morons, because outrage drives viewership, and profit is the only goal to US news/media companies? Is it that the elites within the conservative party have redesigned their entire party structure, and playbook, to empower morons, because morons vote for them more often than not? Is it a combination of these factors, and others, that have been shaping the US in this fashion? Could this be why we have been seeing greater, and greater, pushes from political influence groups, in other countries, that have ties to US wealth? Things like dismantling the NHS, establishing US style media as the dominant party in places like europe (murdoch family owned outlets getting larger pieces of the pie, and pushing sentiment to dismantle not for profit sources, like the BBC, and NPR/PBS, for example), far right parties, trump cocksuckers, putin cocksuckers, etc. have been on the rise for past ten plus years? Could it also be that people are growing increasingly disaffected with capitalism, and there are a lot of people lashing out, lacking understanding of what is causing life to be more difficult, and reaching out, in desperation, to anyone who sounds different from those who got us here, even if it should be obvious those people would likely make these specific issues worse? Is it that these things are also compounded with a growing desire, amongst the growing disproportionately wealthy set, to push all the bad aspects of societal structure, to hasten its collapse, and then swoop in to take over directly?

        IMHO it is all of the factors in the previous paragraph, and others I haven’t bothered to bring up, and not so much the education system, at least not yet. Sorry for the word vomiting in this post.

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            Yes the lead is one of the many issues i didn’t get into, it is on the decline though. However, microplastics is the new lead. We know it affects the endocrine system, as of yet, though, we do not know how, or what the effects will be. Point being, blaming this behavior on education isn’t shooting at the right target, and there are so many targets.

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        Indeed, add in all the religious meddling in educational curriculum and you’ve got a recipie for an ignorant population.

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      LOL i love how the “vOtE 3rD pArTy!!!” chuds have literally nothing to say anymore–can only downvote.

      It’s equal parts hilarious and crushingly depressing. Every time I call out dipshit losers who didn’t vote or voted 3rd party, I get a slew of downvotes from said losers, but never a reply. They know they’re world class idiots, so all they can really do is downvote you.

      Thing is, they’ll do the same thing again next time around because they’re not very smart and honestly believe “voting with their conscience” is more intelligent than voting for the candidate CLOSEST to their ideals that can ACTUALLY win, and, in some cases, prevent a MOTHERFUCKING AUTHORITARIAN from assuming power and crashing our economy and shitting on our Constitution, among other things.

      Fun Fact: The 3rd party candidate with the most votes was magician Jill Stein, who magically appears right before every election, then magically disappears again afterward. She managed to nab a whole HALF OF A SINGLE PERCENT of the total votes cast. So there’s your proof that anyone voting 3rd party is a goddamn idiot.

      I’ll say this once for those in the back. A 3rd party candidate cannot win, because no 3rd party has put in the work to get representatives elected in local/state elections, so they could eventually have ANY PRESENCE AT ALL in the House and Senate, so they’d actually have a chance to win a presidency. Lol, even if they somehow magically got a president in office, they would have NO ALLIES in either chamber of Congress to help them achieve their agenda.

      Downvote me. They usually hurt my feelings, but the ones I get from dipshit loser non-voters and 3rd party voters enhance my libido.

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      “I know I support the murder of you and your people. But I’m still going to need you to vote for me, so that I can preserve democracy and the economy. You may not live to see it, but the rest of us will really appreciate it.”

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        I know some choices are hard, but my parents aren’t around to make them for me anymore, and voting takes so much effort. It doesn’t really matter anyway, both sides are exactly the same. I’ll just not vote and whomever wins, wins. This is America, I’ve got inalienable rights, so it won’t get that bad.

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          I learned inalienable rights weren’t inalienable when I got my first history lesson in 1st grade.

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        Gonna be honest with you. I care way more about the nation I live in and its democracy and my human rights and the human rights of the ones I love than I do about two nations on the other side of the planet continuing a fucking holy war that’s been going on all my life.

        Apparently you do not.

        P.S. Gaza is worse off under Trump. And he made it clear that would be the case before the election.

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    Donald J Trump is a liar, rapist, cheat and a lousy business man that has failed every single business, and Americans voted in this useless excuse for a human being to enforce facism, racism, and colonialism. Well done America.

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      You forgot sexism. There’s a non-zero amount of people who simply will never vote for a woman.

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        sexism and racism, the reason people were giving for not voting her, is because “i dont like her, or she hasnt done anything” codewords for she was black and a woman.

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        “Non zero” just doesn’t do justice to the sheer amount who won’t vote for a woman. Even among women voters.

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          I for one could never vote for a man to be president. Men are just too emotional to serve as leaders. Do you really want some roid-rage dude with his hands on the nuclear button? Please. Men are just too pigheaded, irrational, and obsessed with petty dominance issues to be trusted with real power. They’re like selfish little children. Can you imagine it, a male president? The very idea is laughable! Only someone who knows just how hard it is to birth and raise a child should be trusted with the power to direct the military to take lives. Only women can really grasp the real stakes involved. /s

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      6 times bankruptcy! He’s so bad that after the last one, no western bank would work with him at all. That’s when he went to Russian oligarchs for cashflow, and the rest is history…

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        if trump had invested in a index fund of his inheritence he would be close to 100bn richer. now hes just prostituting to whoever is richer to give him some money.

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        6 times bankrupt, bankrupt casinos, 34 felony convictions, WWE Superstar, known Russian agent, coup leader, the list is extensive…but he was on TV a lot. He’s perfect. I want him.

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    I will never tire of reading articles like this. It’s like the nectar of the gods to me.

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      I’m not totally convinced that a huge swath of trump voters ever heard any alternatives to the propaganda that lead them to believe tariffs=good. Like i imagine a ton of them are structurally isolated from hearing alternatives the way social media and television works

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      If Mangolini weren’t such an idiot, he wouldn’t have revoked the de minimus exemption (meaning orders under $800 were exempt from the tariffs), then his rube followers would never have noticed anything.

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          That blame is easily shifted because the Republicans just let infrastructure crumble and keep the same budget. When dems up the taxes to pay for the infrastructure its clearly their fault.

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            someone on reddit mentioned that it would be “beneficial” for the gop to have several elecitons, because it will show them how bad it is if dems arnt around to clean up the mess every other election, JUST MAYBE we might see some change. it is the case in kentucky i believed where the gop did such a bad job/the r GOV did they dint want another one to completely trash the state, so they needed a scapegoat.

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              In Texas the Republicans have been running the state for 30 years, and still every election ad from Republicans is that only the Republicans can save us from the hell scape the Democrats have made of Texas.

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                without the 4 blue counties propping up the state which they butchered, it would instantly collapsed already.