The woman who actually lives in the house had just moved to Oklahoma City from Maryland with her family about two weeks earlier.
“I keep asking them, ‘who are you? What are you doing here? What’s happening,’” she said. “And they said, ‘we have a warrant for the house, a search warrant.’”
She said they ordered her and her daughters outside into the rain before they could even put on clothes.
“They wanted me to change in front of all of them, in between all of them,” she said. “My husband has not even seen my daughter in her undergarments—her own dad, because it’s respectful. You have her out there, a minor, in her underwear.”
Marisa said the names on the search warrant were not hers or anyone in her family.
“We just moved here from Maryland,” she said. “We’re citizens. That’s what I kept saying. We’re citizens.”
She said the agents didn’t care.
“They were very dismissive, very rough, very careless,” she said. “I kept pleading. I kept telling them we weren’t criminals. They were treating us like criminals. We were here by ourselves. We didn’t do anything.”
Marisa said the agents tore apart every square inch of the house and what few belongings they had, seizing their phones, laptops and their life savings in cash as “evidence.”
“I told them before they left, I said you took my phone. We have no money. I just moved here,” she said. “I have to feed my children. I’m going to need gas money. I need to be able to get around. Like, how do you just leave me like this? Like an abandoned dog.”
Before they left, Marisa said one of the agents made a comment.
“One of them said, ‘I know it was a little rough this morning,’” she said. “It was so denigrating. That you do all of this to a family, to women, your fellow citizens. And it was a little rough? You literally traumatized me and my daughters for life. We’re going to have to go get help or get over this somehow.”
Now, Marisa said they have, quite literally, nothing.
“I said, ‘when are we going to get our stuff back?’ They said it could be days or it could be months,” she said.
Marisa said she is left with nothing but questions.
I’m sorry but at this point I would be too embarrased to be an American citizen and migrate the F out lmao, a second term Donald Trump? So embarrassing 😭🤦🏻♂️💩💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
What country are you in, and what have you done to make it easier for people to claim asylum there?
That’s kind of an asshole take. As a US citizen, there’s no country that would take me in right now. I’m just not eligible to work in any of the other countries I’ve looked at.
First, I only know English. I know a bit of French because my parents paid for lessons when I was a kid, but I’ve had zero chance to practice after college. Many Americans have no foreign language experience at all.
Second, what skills can a typical American market? If you don’t have any good skills, it’s hard to apply for work visa in another country. You could try applying for asylum, but other countries don’t really see things as bad enough to take in Americans yet.
Third, how long would it take to apply? A year is typical. Again, you could try asylum which may have an initial time allocation to stay until your hearing. But that only works once countries start accepting Americans’ asylum claims.
A lot of people can’t afford to move.
And a lot of people want to stay and fight.
We are the illegal immigrants now.
In November I woke up ready to bail. but upon reviewing my options, I determined that nowhere was really better.
There seem to be precious few countries that aren’t flirting with authoritarian parties right now and leaving this one, where I have my social safety net (friends and family, if not government aid) and at least a small amount of power to vote for my values, to go somewhere where I am an immigrant or refugee and lose the power to change policy seemed to be a poor choice. so far. I’m white, straight and middle class, though, so that may be entirely different math for other people.
I’m choosing to stay and fight.
If only it were that easy.
I am embarrassed to be American. But I’m also too poor to do anything about it
And that’s what the rich want! The rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer! It’s the new American way sadly!
Technically, it was the correct home, just the occupants changed.
Man, if only there was some way to determine who the correct residents are BEFORE doing a raid… 🤔
It should be illegal…
But with alternating between Republicans and neoliberals for 50 years, no one has ever actually put in serious effort to reign in police. Asset seizure is 100% legal and since they’re “charging” the money/property there’s no presumed innocence.
Biden didn’t fix policing, Obama didn’t, and under Clinton it got worse in large part due to a bill Biden wrote.
Obviously Republicans have been worse, but the point is shit doesn’t ever get better.
We have a good DNC now, that won’t block good candidates, but that’s a very recent development
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This meant to be a reply to someone else, but something weird is happening
We have a good DNC now, that won’t block good candidates, but that’s a very recent development
Wouldn’t be so sure about that. Ken Martin is out there trying to stop David Hogg from primarying incumbents.
Good, Hogg has no traction and never will win an election. He should be the last choice for the left.
Huh? He’s not running for election; he’s using his PAC to support young progressives primarying Dem incumbents in safe blue seats.
You said he was primarying incumbents, led me to believe he was running
The bigger issue is that you felt it necessary to comment via assumptions rather than even doing a cursory google search. Without knowing anything about charisma or policy you said he should be the last choice for the left? Do you think the incumbents are doing a good job?
No I don’t think incumbents are doing a good job, but I know David Hogg, his policy positions, and public outlook. He is not a good candidate in my opinion. I was surprised and thought he was running with the way he worded his comment.
Not to mention both Obama and Biden not only failed to abolish ICE, but had higher deportation numbers than Trump in his first term.
I made it legal. It’s all like legal now. It’s so beautiful. No unnecessary things like due process.
Not any more
The US GeStaPo does not care about illegal. For them, the only illegals are their targets.
Illegal search and seizure. Where’s the nra? The various groups that swore to uphold the constitution?
They’re probably at a klan rally.
The NRA gave up their ‘jack-booted thugs’ rhetoric and started kissing Republican asses when Bush Jr. was president. Bush very publicly renounced his lifetime membership over LaPierre’s–very, very reasonable and measured–stance that the feds were shitty people. The NRA caved rather than continue to speak the obvious truth, and they’ve had a fetish for licking cop boots ever since.
“Maria. Sounds Mexican, she deserves it probably.”
-NRA
Her name is Marisa.
Even Mexicaner
Fairly sure it’s Italian/Spanish actually. But, most republicans probably think of them as the same thing.
You know an awful lot about them foreigners.
I think you are one too.
Naah probably just one of them uppity college professors. I bet they don’t even like football.
They wish they had our Mediterranean good looks.
You’re right! Idk why my brain deleted the S when I went to write it out, thanks!
Unironically enough for MAGAts to call for deportation.
everyone needs to remember that if/when this is over, anyone who supported this or participated in it needs to be shunned for the rest of their lives.
shunned? they need to be imprisoned
Which is probably not going to happen. we could have a government of just democrats and they wouldn’t convict these people.
No, they need to be made examples of. There need to be mass Nuremberg trials, no Nazis left alone, no scientists spared, no business deals.
No mercy.
Imprisoned? They need to bee branded.
No. They need to be convicted and held to account.
held to account
in mass graves
I’m on your side. Giver.
People who support this shit should be tarred and feathered.
I really hope someone hacks into the ICE database and send them kick down Trumpists doors.
People should claim to be ICE agents and go rob the homes of actual ICE agents. Accuse them of being illegal immigrants and disappear them off to fates unknown. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Give them a taste of their own medicine.
How about hacking to dox the agents?
They should be added last, so that we don’t cripple them while they do a fantastic job looting MAGA houses.
You don’t need to hack anything: https://www.ice.gov/webform/ice-tip-form
I reported Musk on there. I’m 1/2 waiting for ICE to come busting through my door.
I mean he is a non-citizen (by their standards) who has committed serious crimes in our country. He should be at the top of their list.
You don’t need to put the “by their standards”
He is an immigrant who lied in his application, worked with an invalid status and overstayed his student visa to start his criminal career
His acquired citizenship needs to be stripped and deported to El Salvador
Use a fake number generator for phone numbers as well as name generators. Also do it on a public computer and not your own device. If you must use a device you have. Do not do it from home and use a VPN combined with Tor network.
Or use Tails.net it’s a portable OS you use to hide from surveillance and it is part of the Tor project.
Tails is excellent.
Definitely cant see any comparisons to the SS there 👍
some fucking gestapo shit
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The term used for it in law enforcement is “civil asset forfeiture”. For her to get it back, her property is going to have to get a lawyer to defend that it is probably not used in a crime or purchased with funds obtained through criminal activity. Doing that is not cheap.
If anyone thinks Schadrach is being a troll, they’re not. CAF is really fucked up when you look into its use and what it takes to get it back.
Yeah, wasn’t trolling. They literally start a court case against the property to determine if that property was used in or purchased through the proceeds of a crime, and the standard is a preponderance of the evidence. Hiring a lawyer to defend your property against the allegation it was bought with drug money or w/e often costs more than replacing it would. Which is the point.
Sounds more like a typical homeinvasion robbery using ice disguises
Is there any difference anymore for thr Americans?
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Exhibit A, Your Honor.
You gotta be smart, use obscure language embrace missed messaging.
IANAL, TINLA, but: Don’t publish plans to commit crimes.
If they are standing their ground it might be up for debate.
The agents had a search warrant for the home, but the suspects listed on the warrant do not live in the house.
The woman who actually lives in the house had just moved to Oklahoma City from Maryland with her family about two weeks earlier.
Right house, but different residents.
What if you have your money in a safe? Are you obligated to open it? If they call a locksmith, hope the locksmith checks the address on the warrant?
Depends on the safe, but the people executing a search warrant, if it’s a proper search warrant, will either take the safe with them or stay there until it is opened. The locksmith is also (likely) going to be covered because he was acting at the direction of the police. That means he’s going to drill it, and probably won’t be looking at the search warrant as confirmation. A proper search warrant means you’re fucked unless the cops do something stupid, like looking in your cupboard when the search is for a cow.
It’s bogus how heinous the government can be over small crimes.
ICE is going to finance itself by stealing any money they can find. It’s Mob rules from the government under Trump.
Just like the Gestapo and the SS did
Mistakes do happen, there’s no need to overreact or blow things out of proportion.
Ah yes, the “mistake” of deliberately stealing an entire family’s belongings. Easy mistake to make.
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Is this sarcasm or are you a psychopath?
Go to hell you fascist piece of shit.
If I break into your house, force you into the street at gunpoint and steal everything of value, will you be happy with a “it was just a mistake, shit happens, get over it”? Grow some fucking empathy for fucks sake. It isn’t that fucking hard.
Why aren’t ice agents getting popped by now?
Because their fellow nazis will retalliate in force
And then promptly shoot each other in the face.
