• takeda@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    This is my experience as well. It’s also laughable that they call themselves communists and love China and Russia. Those people aren’t communists, they are authoritarians.

  • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    To be fair. “that wasn’t true Communism” is true. The problem is dictatorships keep getting sold with its name. Ironically proving how hard it would be to actually achieve a world or country of communes.

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      The bolshivek revolution made it certain that any communist nation is a dictatorship. The menshiveks would have achieved better results.

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        The Mensheviks wouldn’t have been much more different than German and French socialdemocrats who accepted capitalism. But there were other relevant left-leaning political forces during the Russian Revolution that were neither Bolsheviks nor Mensheviks - I wonder what happened with them?

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        That’s the problem though. When you study revolutions you overwhelmingly find there is a group doing reforms in a civilized way after the previous government is removed. And they almost always get lined up against a wall by a power hungry asshole.

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      Communism is inherently authoritarian as it puts the needs of a social construct (in this case a “commune” or “society”) over the needs, rights and freedoms of an individual. It is hard to achieve anything good with communism, because totalitarian dictatorship is the only possible outcome for any advanced enough authoritarian ideology.

  • The Infinite Nematode@feddit.uk
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    Oh good, this seems like a good place to ask something that’s been bothering me for a while.

    I see the posts from Hexbear and Lemmygrad. I can understand why they are in favour of theoretically communist regimes like China. What I can’t for the life of me see is why they seem to unconditionally support modern Russia which is surely as far away from communism as you can get.

    I must be missing something but not sure what?

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      2 years ago

      “I hate the US”

      “Oh Russia and Iran hate the US. I love Russia and Iran!”

      Unfortunately sometimes people are actually as stupid as they make themselves out to be.

        • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          There’s lots of states where weed is legal.

          The government doesn’t have a secret police force to blackbag me for what I say.

          I live in a beautiful place near the mountains.

          The elections aren’t rigged.

          The people I know are here.

          It’s impossible to stage an effective invasion.

          There’s lots of things to love about the place I live. That doesn’t mean I think it’s perfect, and I still think about how to make life better. Throwing in with Russia is not an effective strategy to affect positive change, and so I think those who do so are foolish.

        • Hubi@lemmy.world
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          European here. The US are far from being the great country that they are presented as in a lot of US media, but it’s also far from the terrible place that some people will claim it to be. Sure, it has some massive flaws, but it’s still “better” than a lot of other places. You can love plenty of things about it. It’s not just black or white.