• Constant Pain@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Sony tried that in Brazil, but it didn’t go as planned. The court ordered them to unbrick it, but they had to provide a new console because they couldn’t unbrick it. And they paid damages.

  • Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Yeah, definitely gonna stop those pirates who soft/hardmod their systems and never connect to the Internet/run updates in order to dump their games or play pirated copies or whatever they wanna do! That’ll stop them!

    /s

    Edit:

    This seems to be more about their online account services and their updated privacy policy than anything else, but I still think my point stands, just not for this article.

    • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 year ago

      The problem is when a new game is released that requires an update to a later firmware version.

      I think I’ve had it before where the updates applied to the system from the game card.

      Unless I misunderstood what was happening. We will have to wait for someone to figure that out.

      I’m rooting for someone to home brew the switch 2 ASAP

      • TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Firmware is dumped almost immediately as well, not a big deal to update a switch offline.

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        1 year ago

        You’ll probably have a while to wait.

        The Switch 1 was able to run homebrew due to a hardware exploit in the CPU which allowed injection of arbitrary code. The interesting thing about that vulnerability being that since it was a hardware vulnerability, it couldn’t be patched out even after it was discovered.

        Following that incident, I’m sure Nintendo has been working especially hard to ensure there are no similar vulnerabilities existing on the Switch 2.

        That said, console hackers are an amazingly creative and talented bunch, so I wouldn’t be surprised by anything.

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          1 year ago

          You could have said that about every Nintendo console since the NES, yet here we are.

        • ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          1 year ago

          Hard to say. Consoles have certainly gotten more sercure and people finding vulnerabilities are far less likely to just give them out for free these days

          But there is incentive to hack any console and nintendo has historically attracted the biggest dorks. Additionally they also seem to historically make pretty huge blunders, though the switch exploit was nvidias fault tbf

        • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          1 year ago

          I’m pretty sure all Nintendo consoles have had a problem with being hacked. As far back as the Wii, people were able to run hombrew pretty quickly.

          I think Nintendo just sucks at console security or maybe they are a bigger target due to their exclusives.

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            1 year ago

            Ever since I learned about the RGH Xbox 360 mod I’ve just assumed every console will be cracked and emulated no matter what. People are fucking clever.

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    1 year ago

    They can “reserve the right” all they want, that’s illegal where I live, and they sell their devices officially here. I’d love to see them trying to hold this stance in court - even Apple lost here over a similar issue, so go right ahead and try.

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    1 year ago

    I’d like to say their legalese is written in a way that covers more ground in the US, the most litigious country in the world. I would imagine if this was taken to court, their lawyers would argue that “permanently unusable in whole or in part” includes a console serial ban from NSO, or argue that it’s the user’s fault for bricking the console when they attempted to mod it, and Nintendo is therefore not liable or obligated to fix it.

    But between the UK-ToS and US-ToS, Nintendo just straight up tells Americans that they themselves are going to break your damn console if you do a thing they don’t like. That is absolutely dystopian.

  • bread@feddit.nl
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    1 year ago

    I’ve been pretty consistently buying Nintendo consoles, but I’m not buying this one. Not just because of this, but I challenge these assholes to brick the device I end up playing their games on.

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    1 year ago

    So a few years ago I wanted to play a Japanese version of a rhythm game that isn’t available to purchase in the USA and decided to try my hand at modding my switch for this one game.

    After(poorly) doing it, I wasn’t able to play that game AND Nintendo bricked me. All my games on my switch that I purchased were unable to download or play anymore.

    So I went and set out to mod my switch correctly.

    Now if I actually wanted to give Nintendo money, they won’t allow me to. So my only option from then on is to pirate.

    They basically turned a potentially paying customer to a non paying customer.

    • ɔiƚoxɘup@infosec.pub
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      1 year ago

      So, this is a basic security principle. If the system of access is too “secure” or too inconvenient, people will create workarounds.

      Need keys for all the doors every second of every day? You’ll find duct tape on all the latches.

      Password is 15 characters and changes every 60 days? You’re going to find post-its under keyboards.

      Spread all digital content across 8 streaming providers that cost about $180/y? Torrent time.

      Nintendo wants to brick users for trying to play an out of region game they paid for? They’ll never pay again and will reverse engineering your shit out of spite.

      Same thing we saw with the music industry utterly failing to embrace internet distribution. Limewire and bearshare are their fucking lunch.

      When will they learn to just make access easy? People, generally, would rather pay than pirate but when you start making shit difficult, nobody wants to play your games anymore and you see massive losses.

      Meet your customers where they’re at!

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          1 year ago

          i have an account on my ps4 (and ps5) that i log into and suddenly i’m in a different region. the ps5 says i only get so many region changes, but i can log into the accounts as many times as i want

      • Katana314@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        The most secure device ever made is a Rock.

        You cannot have your bank account stolen from a Rock. People will never get your personal files or medical info from a Rock. People will never spy on you through the Rock.

        But you also can’t do much with a Rock.

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      1 year ago

      Soooo, just curious but, instead of modding, why didn’t you just set your console region to Japan? That’s what I did. Just seems a lot easier.

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        1 year ago

        I didn’t know you could do that. I’m in Taiwan and I know Steam doesn’t let you make a purchase without a local credit card. So I imagine that’s the case for Japan.

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      1 year ago

      Next time just use a Switch emulator. Sudachi is a good one.

      You can even download Fitgirl Repacks of Switch titles that include the emulator already set up and ready to go. Literally just a one click install and you’re playing.