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      You’re actually insane if you believe that. He is and always will side with himself. He’s throwing a tantrum because them raising prices will make him look bad. Regardless of what you believe about economics it is not reasonable to expect a business in a free market economy to eat the cost of a tariff. Again it is irrelevant that they are morally corrupt and probably could eat it.

      His entire life is him taking advantage of stupid people and now he’s asking someone to help out the little guy? Get real.

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    So the “elected” government is trying to control prices? Isn’t that the definition of socialism?

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      It’s an element of a planned economy which has been more commonly used in authoritarian socialist countries but isn’t exclusive to them.

      (Fun fact because I just looked it up: There doesn’t seem to be one generally accepted definition of “socialism”.)

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        Worker ownership of the means of production.

        I.e. profits from goods and services go to those who provide them rather than investors.

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          Social ownership (public) of production, doesn’t have to be the workers

          State capitalism exists though, ROK and CCP are the more famous examples

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            No it’s not. Socialism is compatible with economic and political systems beyond communism. Sorry, but you don’t know what you are talking about.

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        I’d say a good loose definition is just ‘people pooling resources for the common good’ so basically all taxes and things paid for by taxes including the military.

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    Wow. I used to think he just couldn’t stop lying about tariffs…

    But now I’m convinced he has NO idea what they are or how they work… NONE

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      I was convinced of that from the start. The language he used, I’m pretty sure he’s under the impression that the country you levy a tariff against is the one that pays it. Basically “make Mexico pay for the wall” part 2.

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        Yep. Somehow, someway; he got the impression that because "goods from China " get hit, that China pays to send it here…

        And as someone else posted; he’s surrounded by people who ONLY agree with him. None of his people are correcting him…

        We’re so boned

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      he treats them like his court cases, he thinks tariffs are a way to bully people to do what you want. he has no idea the economic implications of it. also hes doing it as a behest to putin.

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        I think he at least roughly understands the economic implications, he just doesn’t care. He’ll just crack to the rhetoric, blame everyone else for the problems, and assume his fan base will eat up every word and let him continue.

        Falling that, he just goes all in on ignoring elections and count upon the system to let him do that like it’s a woman with a pussy to grab.

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        Yeah everyone tries to convince me he’s smart and the ignorance is an act but I don’t buy it. He truly is mega dumb.

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          He’s an idiot-savant. A total moron with a special talent for self promotion. Which it turns out gets you very far in life (along with the head start one gets being born wealthy).

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              not hard enough for him to get into ivy league school, he had to pay extra to get him into the next best school that would take him.

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            It’s really just the born wealthy. Your family is the biggest factor in success. That’s why so many rich fucks are dumb as posts, they’re born rich; they didn’t earn it, and they’ve never had to develop problem solving skills because they’ve never faced adversity.

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              hes also a very lazy rich person in the way he earns his money. he only does it by scamming which involves lying. if he had invested in a fund i think he would be close to 100bn richer.

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                Yeah Trump could have been richer if he just did passive investing. He was born with the bases loaded then bitches about the fact it wasn’t an automatic grand slam. We shouldn’t expect much from a guy who bankrupted both a casino and university.

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                  someone said if he did an index fund he would be very close if not surpassed 100bn. instead hes always in debt, which made him pretty easy to manipulate by the russians.

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              He developed a cult of personality around himself of significant size and used it to seize one of two pillars of political power in the USA, which then propelled him to power twice. Not smart as in “good for the world,” but pretty successful in the, “empowering and enriching oneself at the cost of the commons” sense.

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                yo

                he was smart enough to recognize his supporters were so dumb, they were easy to manipulate. trump, himself is a scamming, found the easiest people to scam, conservatives, its also why they love crypto.

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                  And now he’s smart enough to see that he can just ignore rules and laws. If no one is willing to enforce them, they’re just for “losers and suckers”

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        “Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had.” - Professor William T. Kelley, Wharton School of Business and Finance

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          “This guy is a fucking Moron…”

          —Rex Tillerson, Trump’s handpicked first Secretary of State

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          and his dad the equally reprehensible fred trump, had to donate a significant amount to get him into his “2nd rate school”

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      That’s the thing about spending 70 years lying and having someone else fire anyone that disagrees…

      You start believing it all.

      Same shit happened to Elon and loads of other rich people, they stop getting real feedback and understanding that they’re being lied to.

      The honestly believe their own bullshit, and they just don’t know how to react to the truth.

      We saw it with the interview about the ms13 tattoo, trump doesn’t even know how to argue anymore, he’s used to everyone just agreeing with him, so when they don’t his only argument is “why aren’t you saying what I want you to say, do you not understand what I want you to say?”

      Because that’s the only time they hear what they dont want to; when the person talking to them is confused about what they want to hear

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        that’s the only time they hear what they dont want to; when the person talking to them is confused about what they want to hear

        Sums up the online right and the futility of debating or arguing with them in any real fashion. This is the culture of JD Vance and Andrew Tate.

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      He thought that applying pressure through broad import taxes would force foreign manufacturers to drop their prices to avoid losing those sweet sweet US sales, and that foreign governments would line up at his door, begging for “deals”. He was wrong, and anyone with a brain would have known that.

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      I honestly don’t think anyone actually informed him of how this would go down.

      The president currently holds a cabinet of people and constituents who have, for the greater part of the past 12 years, relied on the ideals of sycophantic behaviour and likewise. To be in the room and suggest that an idea is not good would and likely has turned heads and gotten them removed from their positions. Look at the most recent Removal of the FEMA administrator: bashed on fema previously, incited change, told congress that axing FEMA would be a bad thing, immediately fired and replaced with a sycophant

      Lack of informed information because it doesn’t align is part of the M.O. of this administration and the GOP for several years now. The only thing that matters is the ideal of greatness, whatever logic that entails.

      This individual also has notably refuted and refused to consume media that doesn’t tailor to his outlook. Even bashing on Fox, which is the biggest right winged media outlet out there.

      My point is, he probably did not truly know what would happen. On paper and in his entourage, tariffs are indeed technically a tax on other countries, but in practice It is a tax on the people.

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      fun fact, he is not aware when he shits own pants after he flies intoa rage. the producers in his relaity show later claimed he becomes a deer in head lights when it happens, and often they have a guy on the set to wipe him down like a baby.

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    Reality does not conform to dementia hallucinations. This is what happens when you vote for a geriatric cantaloupe.

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      But cantaloupe are only orange on the inside. tRump is, as far as we know, only orange on the outside.

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        Come on man, don’t you keep up with the conspiracies? He was disguised as a lizard person, but then they peeled off the rind, which they thought were scales, and it turned out he was a cantaloupe all along!

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        and not the good kind of orange, its when a fruit is spoiled and something grows on it.

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    King Canute knew he couldn’t control the tides to but Trump thinks he can control supply and demand.

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    The Waltons didn’t spend MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ELECTING TRUMP just so he’ll YELL at Them! MAYBE with a Couple More Million he’ll STOP IT!