The march to Nazism takes another step
So, themselves?
I think the USA is taking a turn to the right more than americans care to admit. It’s hard to believe some of these news.
Also, peace on Europe depends on those 1945 treaties. Things can’t go wrong. Something needs to be thought up, and the destruction of universities don’t help. Duke University and others work hard but guess what? A lot of them are on the United States.
This symbol of freedom won’t go out without a bang. Who will support the world in these trying times? Which philosophers will bring the glue that holds us together? We need that.
Honestly, I think that America we knew needs to be broken, on progressive terms. The conservatives are aiming to shatter America, such as Curtiss Yarvin and Peter Thiel. As such, the best option is to oblige them by cutting them out of our society. That means taking control of real things, such as factories, farms, hospitals, mines, weather stations, water, and so forth.
They worship money. Let them have it, in its meaningless glory when there is no people nor property for it to command.
This is accelerationist bullshit. You’re conveniently leaving out all of the innocent people that will die and face oppression while you allow fascists to destroy our country. Because you think that (somehow, against all evidence to the contrary) that the American people will replace it all with a progressive utopia.
It’s short sighted and naive, at best.
America is already not in good shape. Trump is already killing people by sending them to the CECOT death camp in El Salvador, it is likely that the budget bill will pass, stealing away medicaid and SNAP from people, the destruction of NOAA, defunding of sciences, arrests of European tourists or returning citizens, warrantless arrests at courthouse hearings, and so forth.
I would like to assume that our politicians would see sense and end the madness, but that can’t be counted on. It is best if people get into the mindset that things will change, and to be in a fighting mood to force it to be for the better. At worst, people will feel silly for over-reacting. But if the regime continues on this path? Fewer people will fall prey to the regime, because they have been preparing.
Is it bad that my first thought was Emil Cioran?
Seems they don’t expect people to vote anymore.
tRump said this outloud. There are recordings.
Wait…why cull their voter base?
Most of Trump’s base was probably cheering him on until he got to this part:
“The same low-IQ trash who watch the fast and furious franchise.”
Let’s be real, they’re never going to hear about any of this.
I have a feeling they’re going to define anyone who has a college degree and leans anywhere to the left of conservative extremism “low IQ trash”.
Shit! I just paid for a vassecectomy!
I mean this is less of a “government funded” thing and more of a “you get it done or we cut your balls off ourselves”.
And personally, I’m of the opinion that now that they want undesirable people sterilized, I won’t submit. The worst thing we can do right now is give them anything.
It was just some gallows humor. Real tiny gallows.
I read the article. He defined it as people that like the Fast and the Furious franchise.
I’m not entirely opposed to his suggestion.
He also attended a white nationalist rally that got him fired from his job as a Trump speech writer, suggested rewards for sterilization like “air jordans”, and a few more pieces that suggest he’s got a pretty easy way to determine who is “low iq” at a quick glance.
He wants to euthanize non white people
Edit: Sterilize, not euthanize. I’m sure he would hate to kill all of them
He wants to *sterilize people, not euthanize (according to the article). Maybe he wants to euthanize some people too (likely) but that’s not what the article is about. Euthanasia =/= sterilization.
“Third world low iq sucker punch fights over nothing, with dumb animal spectators jumping up and down in excitement,” said Beattie. “The same low-IQ trash who watch the fast and furious franchise. Beginning to wish the whole population reduction conspiracy were true.”
He’s describing MMA fans, and people (in the USA) that watch fast and the furious… Remember (last month) when Mango Mussolini went to UFC in FL? …yea, he’s hating on the voter base that got him where he is.
He wants to offer air jordans to people that volunteer for vasectomies… uh, they can keep the shoes, but I’m down for more people that cannot afford vasectomies or people without health insurance (there’s an abundance) to get them.
I understand the story that this article is attempting to illustrate, but you’re conflating things. Also, I’d hardly consider the Independent as a reputable source.
Also… I’m getting a little bit tired of outrage that has no output. So this week we’re surprised and outraged about another white nationalist in this administration?
:: yawn::
“Like” as in, present tense?
I liked it as a kid but I think I outgrew it…so I guess I’m good?
Doesn’t matter if you win by an inch or a mile…
Ahh shit.
Maybe, but I think it will probably start with the amount of melanin you may have first.
Yeah, that’s why they’re trying to make questioning Trump’s greatness a mental disorder. So they can identify us as irredeemable to dispose of us
Your college degree will be the new “Star of David” to identify you to the authorities.
Ironically, many of the Republican asshats have degrees, even from (gasp! shock! horror!) Ivy League schools…
Probably worse, enemies or the state. Anyone not in lock step will be put in a camp…prolly about a year out…stay safe
Yep, the Nazis defined socialists as degenerates, so I expect any sign of empathy to be seen as a sign of low IQ.
They’ve thought this for decades. Tradespeople have been resenting college nerds who don’t have common sense (funny thing is I’m both of those things). And the cheaters (like tax cheats and grifters) think that the rest of us are dumb for not cheating to get ahead.
They don’t need voters any more.
Sadly this was inevitable.
I think it was in the skeptics guide to the universe book, they covered the history of eugenics.
It has a significant history in the US, and loads of ne’er-do-wells were sterilised before eugenics was adopted as a policy by the german nazi party.
All of these “inevitable” thresholds being crossed are picking up incredible speed though. At this rate they will have the civil war they’re clearly trying to create in less than a full year tops.
They don’t want a civil war; that’s just the next best thing for them. What they really want is uncontested fascist rule, and unless Americans grow some spine fast they’ll get it.
Oh absolutely; either everyone takes what they dole out lying down, in which case they get their fully fascist state, or people fight back and give them a reason to enact martial law, leading to the same outcome.
3.5% is what it takes to bring the government to it’s knees. Aim for it.
What i always wonder happens in these scenarios though… what happens next? Let’s say the gov is brought to it’s knees by the 3.5%. Who takes charge then? How is it determined?
Have you read Animal Farm? That. Is it conceivable that someday a people’s revolution would turn out otherwise? Sure. But I don’t see the American people as being the ones to pull it off.
Do we start with the Whitehouse?
Start with Congress. There is a glut over there.
…so the Trump supporters, then?
Hello to my Americans friends, and an outsider looking in, we have a very famous saying about the situation you’re currently in. It roughly translates to, “holy fucking shit, you guys are totally fucked”. Honestly I’m baffled by the seeming lack of tangible response from the general public, I understand 30 odd % voted for this and another 30 or so couldn’t be bothered. But the rest of you should be shutting down everything, how are you just holding these weekend protests and hoping for change. Cripple the bloody country! The longer you wait the worse it gets.
Sincerly someone who knows what Dictatorships are.
I feel this way every time I wake up. I am a pretty avid history enthusiast. I know what the parallels are. I know the direct analogies to what’s happening here now.
It ultimately boils down to the fact that the vast majority of the country is unable to mount a general protest because we’re all wage slaves, and healthcare is tied to having a job here, so we’re all predominantly conditioned to be nice little worker lemmings for the most part. And then there’s the imbecilic “exceptionalist” streak that a lot of people have, which is more or less the societally-toxic idea that you’re just a temporarily inconvenienced billionaire who hasn’t come into their own yet.
That’s fair, but I think that a non insignificant number of people just don’t care. Yes, protests in big cities seem large, but like the other commenter was saying, only 1/3 of people really oppose this. And some of that 1/3 don’t oppose it particularly strongly if at all. I know lifelong Rs that luckily didn’t vote for Trump, but mostly because he doesn’t stand on ceremony. They voted Harris, but they legitimately have no problem with rounding up immigrants and attacks on the LGBT community. Local resistance is just not really possible when 1/3 of your neighbors have trump flags in their yard, 1/3 think your resistance is stupid and maybe 25% of the remaining 1/3 care enough to join some of the time. How do you do a work stoppage if only 1/12 of your colleagues would even consider it. I’m not saying resistance is futile, but I don’t think it’s about the wage slave issue as much as it is that there’s no real public will to stop this. Wage slave issue is of course still a problem and likely contributing factor.
Stop trying to talk yourself out of doing something. You clearly believe that something needs to be done so do whatever you can to move us in a positive direction. I’m not saying you’re wrong but every time we say stuff like this we help the people hearing it feel more justified in doing less. Let others come up with their own reasons for inaction and work hard to overcome your own.
I’m not talking myself out of doing anything and I am actively doing what I can. I also specifically said that resistance isn’t futile. We should all do what we can, but not talking about the problem, especially when other leftists are openly and actively acknowledging it, just leads to the pic above of feeling like their experience is the problem. Their experience is not the problem and they are not crazy. Unfortunately, there are a lot of fascists around. That fact is important to acknowledge because it really does change the kind of resistance that works.
I know the infighting meme is old at this point, but I’m not sure what you’re trying to accomplish with this comment, but it comes off as obnoxious (to me) and we need less of that. I’m not posting doomer rhetoric. I’m acknowledging a truth already acknowledged in this thread. I don’t need a random leftist telling me to work hard to overcome reasons for inaction. I already organize locally. Acknowledging that there’s just only so much you can do and it’s ok to work in that framework can be helpful.
I’m not posting doomer rhetoric.
That’s exactly what it sounded like, which is why my reply was worded from that perspective. You may not have intended it to be read that way but it does to me.
“It ultimately boils down to the fact that the vast majority of the country is unable to mount a general protest because we’re all wage slaves, and healthcare is tied to having a job here, so we’re all predominantly conditioned to be nice little worker lemmings for the most part.”
That’s the problem right there, right now you NEED action, no revolution was won and no government overthrown by people tweeting, and we all know how well “Thoughts and prayers” works.
That’s easy to say from the outside. Say I do all of that, sacrifice everything for the cause, but there’s no groundswell of the same afterwards. So I just gave up everything, and accomplished nothing.
Yes it’s a pretty negative and defeatist attitude, but the country is far too large compared to most European countries for fast response gathering to really work, and the media is complicit in covering up news about things like that, making that outcome extremely likely.
I’m just a school bus driver so it doesn’t really make a difference either way what I do versus something like retail or fast food workers, but there is a different way to do it here than in countries the size of a small state. I just don’t know what that is.
It is easy to say from the outside, however I say this as someone who took part in mass protests hoping to bring down a massively corrupt government who literally stole all the peoples money, I’ve been tear gassed, water cannoned and had rocks thrown at me. I mean no offense to you at all but yes, it is a defeatist attitude and unfortunately I can’t offer any options as to what to do, but doing nothing will enable your freedoms and liberties to be eaten away altoghether. I think people are more prone to react once it affects them personally and that’s understandable, especially how most American workers are held hostage by their jobs (paycheck to paycheck living, health insurance etc).
I wish you luck friend.
You missed the part where the cops do all that and then shoot to kill in the states.
People will die either way, Trump is gutting medical aid and social services across the board. People can either accept it meekly and just die, or try and fight and die. Honestly there are no good choices left for normal Americans who didn’t vote for this. But a choice has to be made.
Honestly I’m baffled by the seeming lack of tangible response from the general public
The general public will never hear about this, and those that do, won’t believe it.
What astounds me is there are more foreigners like me who are so much more knowledgeable about US laws than the average Maga. It’s insanity the mental gymnastics they manage. Everyone has this information at their fingertips, sadly facts don’t seem to matter anymore.
The average Maga doesn’t do any mental gymnastics. If anything contradicts them, it’s wrong by default.
I’m an Australian. We have a similar phrase with the same translation. In our language, we say: “cunts fucked”
I fled the country, so it’s been fascinating looking in from the outside while still having a stake vis-à-vis all the people I love back home.
On the inside, the people that matter are terrified. It’s easy to tell someone to grab a rifle and “do something”, but the average person is now more focused on their own immediate survival than anything else. People are losing access to life saving medicine, they’re worried about catching a life threatening illness, and basic costs of living (rent, food, health, etc) are getting more expensive. Even privileged people are starting to feel the screws tightening. The US is a ticking time bomb and something is going to give at some point, but it’s going to have to get significantly worse first.
On the outside, everyone understands why we fled. My new country has been so incredibly welcoming and sympathetic, with a hint of curiosity. I realized yesterday while I was reading about the Philly mass shooting that I’ve yet to hear of a single mass shooting where I am, and I immediately felt a sense of relief.
Edit: wording
“but it’s going to have to get significantly worse first.” Unfortunately given what we (the rest of the world are seeing) I think you’re right, but it just makes no sense to me (who comes from the middle east, had to flee civil war and lived in the west) how easily it seems to be for this administration to literally dismatle the US as we know it.
“but the average person is now more focused on their own immediate survival than anything else. People are losing access to life saving medicine. They’re worried about catching a life threatening illness, and food costs double what it used to” This, in hindsight has been a strategy that has worked brilliantly in controlling the general population.
Well done for getting out and giving yourself this peace of mind).
Yes we know.
I’m and American and yeah, I figured that one out for myself years ago. A lot of us did. There’s just not much we can fucking do about it.
There is actually, unfortunately it’s a very hard choice and it will require sacrifice, be it jobs, etc, otherwise you’ll end up being the worlds riches failed state.
I came in here to call Americans cowards but it looks like you’re already here making sure it’s covered.
The media is compromised. People are organizing but you’re not hearing about it for the most part. No one’s talking about it on public forums for obvious reasons. You will start hearing about it when things come to a head.
I did Nazi that coming.
Right on schedule. These guys are following a playbook…step by step https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-biological-state-nazi-racial-hygiene-1933-1939
OP’s article is 3 months old, being dated 2025-02-11.
Fine with me… That’s the entire MAGA constituency
Start with Trump. I recommend steam sterilization - it’s the cheapest option, and kills nearly all traces of bioburden.
There are a few chemical options as well, such as hydrogen peroxide plasma.
He’s a white supremacist. He means black people. Note the bold.
In October of that year, he responded to a video of people in a neighborhood in Atlanta, saying: “When a population gets feral, a little snip snip keeps things in control. Could offer incentives (Air Jordans, etc.).”
“Where do these population reduction conspiracies come from? All I see is trash multiplying,” he wrote in January 2023.
In May of that year, Beattie wrote on X that “It’s not politically correct to say, but low-IQ, low-impulse control populations lack higher reasoning and moral faculties—they require strict corporal punishment and threat of violence to function properly within a society. Instead of anarcho-tyranny, we need Singapore for the dumb and violent, and Sweden for the more elevated.”
Pretty sure he means anyone not white. That’s most people in the world.
He mentions air jordans as an incentive. Literally the only more racist thing would be saying he can have slave eunichs because he gives them watermelon.
Do you really think he doesn’t think white people are superior to Asians and native Americans and Jews?
I mean, he of course thinks white people are superior. That’s why he’s a white supremacist.
But he said the first comment about Air Jordans in Atlanta, then a follow-up talked about low IQ, which is a racist stereotype most closely associated with black people, and low impulse control, which feeds into the racist narrative that black people are more primitive.
Also, white supremacists typically have a hierarchy of hate, and black people are usually at the top of it. In other words, white supremacists hate all non-white races, but they still have priorities.
Anyway, this guy sucks.
Yep, again just following Hitlers Playbook: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#Germany
That was one of the first laws that the Nazis enacted…
Orrr we could sterilize fascists while the rest of us work towards egalitarianism and protecting the sanctity of life unlike these degenerates.
No, really, people like this should get a maximum of three comments on racial purity per lifetime before they get a guillotine to the nutsack.
That’s eugenics just the same.
Best case would be for Thanos to come and we convince him to snap his fingers and sterilize a random 90% of the human population. That would solve the majority of our problems
