Will Cyberpunk 2 have two cis women cosplaying as trans women with huge penises being praised on the CDPR Twitter account?
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Oh great. Dead twitter links and so screenshots.
“…its portrayal of trans characters is anything but progressive. Many gamers have criticized how Cyberpunk 2077 and its developer, CD Projekt Red, choose to fetishize and commodity trans bodies and trans identity.”
That’s… the entire point. There is a big, big difference between how CDPR feels about trans people, and how the Late Stage Capitalist Pigs in Night City treats trans people.
Yes, the advertisements in the game are gross. They’re supposed to be. Human beings, ALL human beings, are treated like garbage in 2077. You were never supposed to look at these ads and be like “Hey, this is totally cool and normal.” If your reaction was “This is gross”, that’s exactly the emotion you were meant to feel. It was supposed to make you reflect upon the culture of the game and realize how messed up and broken it is.
You don’t (I sincerely hope) watch a film and conclude that the views expressed by the villains of the piece are the views held by the actor or director do you? They’re is a reason Ad Agencies in Cyberpunk treat human beings as commodities, because that’s exactly how they view them.
“Obviously, Cyberpunk 2077 presents a dystopian society rather than an aspirational one. Trans identity is treated as a product because everything is a product designed to be sexualized in this future. However, there’s never any contrast established. With other elements of Night City, players see how the commodified image contrasts with the rougher, harsher reality. This is not the case with LGBTQ characters, especially not trans characters.”
One of the main characters in the game is a trans woman, and she isn’t fetishized in any way. There are also some very prominent LGBT characters, and they are treated respectfully as well imo. The person who wrote that article never even played the game and it shows. It’s possible the “reviewers who have played anywhere from 40 to 60 hours have yet to encounter any meaningful trans NPCs.” simply missed the fact that Claire was a trans because no one makes a big deal about it, but it is most definitely mentioned. She has a trans pride flag on her racing truck as well.
Then there’s the fact that you can choose genitalia for your character completely independently from their ‘body type’. You can also choose a ‘male’ or ‘female’ voice artist for V no matter how your character looks. I don’t know of any other game that let’s you have that sort of freedom in character creation. This game let’s you be whoever you want to be in a way rarely (if ever) seen in other games.
“Cyberpunk 2077 never makes an effort to reflect on this fetishization, which erases any possibility of satire or social commentary. If a game presents transphobic advertisements and never addresses these depictions, it just regurgitates and upholds transphobia.”
Cyberpunk treats players as if they aren’t idiots, as is the case with any good satire. The idea that it must specifically call out any bit of satire it’s doing or ‘it doesn’t count’, is insulting and ridiculous. Would “Monty Pythons Life of Brian” have been a better film if at one point the main character had turned to camera and said “This is just like Jesus, get it?”
After the tweet received massive backlash, the social media account responded with a non-apology.
The fact that they used CDPR’s apology as proof that they weren’t sorry is just… come on. Calling it a stretch seems inadequate.
I just think it’s really tacky and gross to do a surface level scan of a piece of media you haven’t personally experienced, put no thought into it, and then write a hit piece to get clicks on your website. There are plenty of actual transphobic assholes out there to call out. At the very least CDPR got people talking about these issues, name 3 other games you can say the same thing about.
Yeah, you’re a genius all right. You managed to completely miss the whole point of cyberpunk. I imagine any story much more complex than a children’s book just flies right over your head.
There are occasional appearances of trans flags and a few characters who may or may not be LGBTQ, but the majority of the characters appear to be cisgender and heterosexual.
Imagine completely ignoring a canonically trans character to try to dunk on a game. Also softballing that “may or may not” when half of the romance options are homosexual.
Oh here we go, another person suffering from brainrot
As long as there’s no stupid pre-launcher aka ad platform. I can load CP77 with its exe directly, for now
You can skip the launcher by just using the launch argument to do so.
Spicy take: I hope they dump 2077’s engine and go Unreal.
I recently followed this guide to try and set up “optimized” path tracing (no raster lighting, with everything raytraced) in 2077, and on my lowly RTX 3090 it runs like cold molasses. Not a chance. Raster + RT reflections is all I can manage, and it looks… good.
Meanwhile, I’ve also been playing Satisfactory (an Unreal Engine game from a comparatively microscopic studio), and holy moly. Unreal Engine’s dynamic lighting looks scary good. Like, I get light bounces and reflections and everything, and it runs at like quadruple the FPS in hilariously complex areas, again, with a fraction of the dev effort.
Cryengine in KCD2 is rather sick as well, though probably less tuned for urban landscapes.
…So why don’t they save a few years and many millions, and just go with one of those instead of poorly reinventing the wheel?
I have good news for you. The first information released on the sequel was that it’s being built in unreal.
That’s what I get for not clicking through!
Good! I can see a ton of gamers complaining about this endlessly, but switching to anything but in-house is a great move IMO.
I will put it on my calendar for 2035.
By the time Cyberpunk 2 comes out, I’ll have my own Keanu installed in my brain.
By the time it gets fixed & playable, the remainder of Keanu’s body will also need a mind reinstall.
You won’t get Keanu. You’ll get trump
They still haven’t totally fixed the first one.
I started the first one last month and encountered 3 game-breaking-reload-required bugs within the first hour. It still isn’t fixed after all these years.
Played until I was helping the cops and symping for corpo life. Aren’t we supposed to be punks off the street? The fuck are we helping cops for? CDPR can’t write.
The fuck are we helping cops for?
Because the coppers have a vigilante system and pay me for fucking these specific groups of gangers and criminals up. And as Vespasian said: money doesn’t stink.
Well I’m on my fifth playthrough and have encountered game-breaking bugs maybe 3 times :)
I play on PC, and the only bug I’ve ever experianced was one time an NPC walked into the sidewalk. Other than that, it’s been smooth sailing.
At least everyone knows not to trust this dev anymore and won’t buy the game until it’s actually finished
Sad this likely means the first one never gets finished
Yeah their greed is disgusting. I wander how many DLCs they’ll make for this next one before it’s finished
Expansion packs have existed since the 90s at least. There were also special editions and stuff before DLCs were possible.
Umm okay? Cool fact bud
Just saying if they do release DLCs and add ons it isn’t something particularly new or particularly greedy.
It is greedy when they ask for more money for “extra” content for an unfinished game.
What are you even talking about? They only shit you had to pay extra for was Phantom Liberty. Every other update or content release has been free.
And it was greedy as hell because when that DLC was announced and released the game was still buggy and unfinished. The game still doesn’t feel complete without the DLC is what I hear from everyone I know and multiple reviews
Speak for yourself choom. I’ll buy that scop on launch day. (I only preorder RGG games cuz they have never missed)
The first one was finished, and is a fantastic game.
Yeach . It had rocky start but damm disregarding bugs the praises were more than deserved. Literally the best action RPG that exists.
Literally the best action RPG that exists.
Spoken like someone that has played about four or five video games in their entire life. It’s not even an RPG. It’s a shitty first person shooter with pointless skill trees tacked on. Even if you were to classify it as an action RPG, it doesn’t crack the top 20.
What a blisteringly stupid thing to say, considering art is subjective.
It absolutley does. Also cyberpunk actually gives you a lot of freedom on how you aproach combat. Can you play it as mindless shooter. Yup . But you can also play deus ex like that and no one calls it a shitty first person shooter ( even tho thats technicaly the easiest way to finish the game ). And as far as the world and story is concerned its equisite. As far as whetewer its an RPG or not. If mass effect is an RPG than so is cyberpunk i think . Very subjective thing in general . Definietly not a hill im willing to die on.
A rocky start? It got removed from the game stores and full refunds given. That’s not a simple “rocky start” the released a pre alpha at full price.
It’s absolutely a fantastic game. I’m glad Gibson is giving his blessing for the sequel, I’m looking forward to it!
It was pretty damn solid. I didn’t finish it, I had fun running around blasting gang members. Ducking through alley ways was the shit.
It was finished and buggy… it’s now finished, fixed and expanded.
Right now is where it should have been on release.
If it’s good enough for Gibson, it’s good enough for me.
CP2077 was not finished when it came out at the end of 2020.
This revisionist history of it being complete on release will get no traction here.
Literally nobody said that.
Not feature complete to pre-release promises/expectations
You don’t have to lie to justify your purchase, you can enjoy it for what it is
The game is finished. Maybe not finished to your expectations, but it is definitely finished, and is a damn fine action RPG. And Phantom Liberty is the best damn DLC for any game I’ve ever played since the Shivering Isles for Oblivion.
Calling others opinions lies just because you don’t appreciate what they’re saying is what we in the industry like to call a “bitch ass move”.
Reconsider what you responded to and what finished means
I don’t need to reconsider shit, the game is finished, and is amazing.
won’t fall for CD Projekt again
Seriously. I’ve lost all faith in this company.
They fixed the performance issues, but at the end of the day, the game is still boring as fuck. IDK how they did it, cause the CyberPunk aesthetic is right up my alley.
Maybe about time for me so start the first.
I hate when sequels are prequals! We want 2078!
I’m going to hold out for Cyberpunk 2222, personally.
I hope that if this game is open world then the story at least matches it, unlike the first one.
There were just so many pointless distractions, and hardly any of them lead to anything interesting.
Just finished another playthrough yesterday. The new ending for siding with the NUSA is sad as hell, really made me feel feelings
cyberpunk more like depression simulator
Turning T-poses and texture pop-in into depression and too many Panam booty screenshots
I wonder if there’s a NUSSR as well
There’s a USSR in Cyberpunk.
Looking forward to playing this in 10 years
Before they get too far, can someone please make sure they have the rights to Joe Walsh’s “In The City” this time? It would be fantastic music for an intro, outro, or act break.
But I’m still one hour into the first one!
I think I got to the part where they show Johnny Sins doing mischief? I can never get past the fucking vision tutorials after getting the crawling toenail thumb or what ever that fucking bot is called. It’s a slog.
