https://sh.itjust.works/c/meanwhileongrad
Here is a nice community that keeps track of their bullshit
/r/shitshitredditsayssays
Lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/yepowertrippinbastards also keeps track of the bullshit the mods do.
“We should defederate from everything which does not agree with my .world view and create a giant centralized echo chamber”!
Why the fuck does every .world user suddenly want Lemmy to be Reddit?
Because Lemmy is fucking communist.
Please go back to reddit.
You go back to lemmy. Oh wait
“Different world views” isn’t a problem, the problem is users espousing repugnent “world views” and being assholes.
Pretending like we have to put up with other users’ repulsive, insane “ideas” and bullying behavior in our spaces is laughable. Bigots, fascists, and actual tankies can fuck off.
One of the instances believes Hamas are freedom fighters and the state of Israel has no right to exist.
The other believes the inverse.
Who is the fascist with repugnant world views?
Hamas and the Netanyahu regime are bloodthirsty authoritarian regimes who both qualify as terrorists, given their recent exploits.
Dodged the question about Israels right to exist. Supports the Fascist state and condemned the freedom fighter.
There is your answer folks.
Isreal does not have a right to exist, Israelis do, but Isreal doesn’t. It only exists because the land it was on was forcibly taken from Palestinians. Edit: spelling
I agree no state has a right to exist
Israel as a haven for European Jewry after the 2nd world war is dumb idea to begin with for a plethora of reasons at the time. That said there’re plenty of states through history that begin under dubious pretenses. Their citizenry doesn’t deserve wanton violence nor do they necessarily deserve wholesale dissolution.
Israel does have a right to exist. The Israelis don’t have a right to take land forcibly from people and murder women and children.
But Palestinians do not have the right to fight back against their occupiers, They should die quietly while everyone with the moral high-ground says what Israel doing is bad and proceeds to do nothing about it.
Listen. Just fuckin listen to me. The moment I joined lemmy every enthusiast was singing praise to the fediverse and how it’s easy to maintain the freedom of speach and yada yada yada. What it turned out to be is just constant quarrels between instances, defederations and crap like that while lemmy still fucking struggles to even become a mere shadow of reddit. I fucking hate reddit, I think spez should be covered in fire ants, but by god, looking at how insufferable most vocal lemmy users are, I may get back to reddit, probably as many other lemmy users already did.
I’m out of the loop, what’s going on?
Another day of .world reddit migrants thinking de-federating or boycotting .ml will change literally anything.
It will. It will change which instance they shriek “tankie!” at.
I only follow some .ml communities for the only thing that instance is good for: Memes making fun of neoliberals
thx! got more anarchist communities?
Check out the sidebar of !anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
We need to grow the !linuxphones@lemmy.ca alternative more!
Why would you want to create an echo chamber? I genuinely don’t get it, it’s the internet, if you encounter an opinion you disagree with, literally just close the tab and it’s gone
Here’s a list of a few .ml communities and potential replacements:
- ask lemmy - !asklemmy@lemm.ee !asklemmy@sh.itjust.works
- linux - !linuxquestions@lemmy.zip !linux@linux.community !linux@programming.dev
- memes* - !memes@sopuli.xyz !memes@slrpnk.net !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone !memes@midwest.social
- programmer humor - !programmer_humor@programming.dev
- world news - !news@beehaw.org !globalnews@lemmy.zip
- technology - !technology@sh.itjust.works
- funny - !funny@sh.itjust.works
- ukraine - !ukraine@sopuli.xyz
Side note the main issue with .ml is transparency. It’s fine if the admins of an instance implement whatever rules they want in their instance; however, once they start enforcing hidden rules disguised as violations of the listed rules, they’re being liars and treating the users as stupid things to be herded, not as human beings.
EDIT: as people noticed I’m not including .world comms to not encourage even further concentration of activity into the largest instance. Decentralisation is important. Also I’m adding stuff that you guys suggest.
* for specialised memes, as the category is rather large:
If they were banning people for shit posting on a communism community I wouldn’t have a problem. Its when you get removed banned from all communities because you said you don’t like there crappy memes
I had the audacity to say that the deaths of Tiannanmen’s Square were inexcusable, no matter who started the violence, and my comment was removed under instance rule 1 (bigotry)… like wat 😂
Ah, typical lemmy.ml . They have a hard time understanding that you can support a certain ideology without necessarily turning a blind eye to everything that people claim to be doing for the sake of said ideology, or that any criticism against their actions is automatically false.
I remember you, by the way. You were already an old Lemmy user when I joined in, 3y ago!
The .ml transparency thing is a symptom, not a root cause. The admins like and even participate in the .ml rhetoric. The rules ambiguity is intentional.
We could argue that the root cause is that .ml admins pretending that their instance’s target audience is wider than it actually is.
Their target audience is Westerner suckers gullible enough to have their opinions manipulated
It’s a great advertisement for communism that’s for sure. They haven’t even gotten real power and it already resembles the worst of what communism offers. They’re a bunch of wannabe Ceausescu’s.
!asklemmy@lemmy.world has over 70 times as many subscribers as the other two asklemmy communities combined.
I’m avoiding linking lemmy.world instances. We shouldn’t put even more eggs in that basket, you know.
But maybe we shouldn’t throw out the few eggs Lemmy does have.
Nobody is throwing eggs out. I’m recommending one basket instead of another, that’s it.
the main issue with .ml is
transparencyauthoritarian propaganda with full-throated support from the admins
I criticized the CCP on lemmy.ml and got called racist and got banned lmao
Edit: thank you for the link, Lazycog@sopuli.xyz!
https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=2602275
I stand by every single comment that’s been removed from this platform. Some of them were removed for good reason, one of them was a brain fart that I shouldn’t have posted in the first place, but I’m happy to have y’all investigate my moderation history
ETA: If you read this, and then replied to a comment that’s already been removed from a community I’m banned from, you’re an idiot. I literally can’t interact with you. Why not reply to this comment?
Thanks for posting that, I had no idea. Yikes. Time to find a new instance.
You know people can see your moderation history right?
I genuinely didn’t. How do you check that? I want to see their excuse for banning me
Not sure if this link will work on any lemmy clients, but open it in the browser (modlog on lemmy.ml and filtered by your user ID):
https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=2602275
Edit: I linked ml because I don’t know if modlogs federate over. E.g if lemmy.ml admin mod actions are visible on sh.itjust.works modlog page.
Thank you, I had no idea how to find this, it’s super fascinating
Some of these removals are perfectly warranted, like that L + ratio comment. It was a fun comment, but not productive. I didn’t even know I was banned from 196 for… Defending genocide? Because I didn’t want Trump elected? I would like to congratulate the moderators of blahaj.zone for successfully preventing a Harris presidency.
All the recent .ml stuff is because of “rule 1,” and y’all can plainly see that none of the comments removed were bigoted, and only one was uncivil.
I would like to congratulate the moderators of blahaj.zone for successfully preventing a Harris presidency.
The guys who’ve spent the last year telling the democrats “You need to stop the genocide and promote popular left policy if you want to win” are not responsible for the dems loss. The dems are responsible for their own loss for ignoring the obvious advice of “stop doing the thing that made you lose in 2022 and 2016 and 2010 and 2004 and instead do the thing that made you win in 2008 and 2020”
It’s particularly gross to suggest a predominantly trans instance wanted a trump presidency.
One time, drag’s friend accidentally left his fly open in public. Drag wanted to save him the embarassment of having it open, and drag knew exactly what to do to help him.
So drag got up in front of everyone in the bar, shouted that the friend’s fly was open, and shared some dank memes making fun of him.
Drag’s friend claims that nobody from that night respects him anymore and drag is a terrible friend, but that’s nonsense. He’s the one who left his fly open, drag was just helping him avoid embarrassment.
If Drag spent 4 years telling Drag’s buddy “Zip up your fly, or you’re going to be thrown out”, and instead drag’s friend shows his Dick to everyone at the bar, it’s not Drag’s fault. Nor is it the fault of everyone else at the bar for being repelled.
If Drag’s friend thinks everyone would have been OK with him flashing non-consenting people, and that Drag simply convinced everyone this was repellent behavior, that’s even more reason to listen to Drag.
Banned starman2112 @sh.itjust.works from the community 196@lemmy.blahaj.zone reason: Weirdo who defends genocide, because only young people are aginast it
Thanks for the link and the laugh! 😂
It’s amusing to see the average user criticizing .ml while ignoring the bad behavior of others. LMAO!
Weirdo, why im not surprised at all 😂
I’ve been called a racist, a homophobe (???) and worst of all a liberal and a fascist (same thing apparently /s) all because I insisted that China isn’t worth simping for.
What I hate most about tankies is that they are the only true leftists and anybody who disagrees with them is just a poser and a liberal. Especially anarchists.
For clarity, the thread you are talking about was filled with reasonable discussion that you doubled down on ignoring. The biggest thing people took issue with is your insistence on having a negative opinion towards something you in the same breath admitted you lacked real knowledge of how the PRC works. There’s a difference between having an opinion based on strong investigation, and one made by vibes, something pointed out repeatedly to you.
If somebody so desperately wants me to support the second most powerful empire in the world the burden of proof is on them, not on me.
Hello. Can I please make my internet experience both echoier and chamberier than it already is because it makes me sad when I encounter someone online who has different thoughts to me.
Sure, just spend all your time on lemmy.ml and that’s exactly what you’ll get.
Every community is an echo chamber except for mine!
Have you actually been to lemmy.ml? They enforce vague rules to maintain their echo chamber
Notably, no comments have been removed from this thread for either supporting or decrying the CCP
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i dont watch shows i know i wont like on netflix. guess im in a echo chamber there too.
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your “boycott” was already happening naturally because (ayk) lemmy.ml’s mods are insufferable
Can someone inform me about what’s wrong with lemmy.ml?
Sure. They’re not far enough to the right for some of .world’s centrists, who are very upset that some people from .ml are outspoken opponents of genocide. And as such, they have for the third time designated an instance to be the “tankie instance” that they desperately want .world to defederate from. .world’s centrists will continue this until they have convinced the admins to defederate from .ml, at which point they will once again find a new instance to designate as “tankies” and start the pressure to remove it.
They consider .world’s neoliberalism to be the leftmost acceptable boundary of political thought, and will do anything to limit the discussion accordingly.
Nah im just not a big fan of anyone who simps for putin and the taliban, it’s really that simple. If they weren’t a bunch of tankie edgelords I’d honestly consider making a hex account, some communities there are neat but not worth having to see all that shit lol
Have you already decided what the next “tankie instance” is gonna be?
Their users often argue for authoritarian regimes and deny genocides.
They are tankies
I’m confused. What are you saying? That word is thrown around against socialists. Tankies is often used to shut someone down and ignore what they’re saying no matter how correct it is, or how little it has to do with Marxism.
Something about .ml and MLs in general is that they really just aren’t that large a group. If we want larger communities, Reddit is still much bigger than Lemmy. If we want a flawed ally in politics, progressive liberals outnumber Leninists and are far less likely to deliberately betray us. (That’s why MLs always equate Liberalism with fascism; if people can ally with Liberals MLs have basically nothing they can bring to a coalition, and so they can’t seize power.)
Famously loyal and trustworthy liberals will never deliberately betray you lmao. Just hope they never find out if you have to break a law the fascists draw up to protect yourself or others 🚔🚔🚔
And hope that you’re not part of whichever group they’re throwing under the bus to appease the fascists either.
If we want a flawed ally in politics, progressive liberals outnumber Leninists and are far less likely to deliberately betray us.
Who are ‘you’ in this equation? A boat dealership owner?
Pretty much anyone on the left.
Note: Tankies aren’t leftists.
Note 2: MLs are tankies.
Never leave your mind palace. You’re the smartest person alive. You can write political theory completely on your own without ever looking out at the outside world just in your own head. It’s always perfect. You never have to define terms. You never have to explain mechanisms. And don’t you dare ever expose it to danger. Stay pithy my friend.
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Couldn’t care less about lemmy.world or a boycott. This post has the same energy as people in comment sections publicly announcing they are blocking someone.
Do what you want. No one cares.
Do what you want. No one cares.
Funny, I see quite a few butthurt ML people in this thread, so it would seem some people do care
