This is why I went from supporting gun control to not supporting it anymore. Cops should absolutely fear armed protesters in all countries.
Guns will not stop a tank, fighter jet or nuclear armed submarine.
I’ll let you know as soon as a nuclear armed submarine is rolling down my block
I kinda hope you live in D.C., just because it’d be kinda ironic this weekend…
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Afghanistan was even worse. People often think the Vietnamese were just the Vietcong but often forget that North Vietnam had an army and an air force. The North Vietnamese airforce had far more fighter aces than the US (with the top ace having shot down 9 US aircraft).
Afghanistan with the Taliban had next to nothing. Even when the US tightly controlled ammonium nitrate, which was the mainstay of IEDs they were able to switch to other stuff.
This is in addition to tons upon tons of explosives salvaged from UXOs dating as far back as the Soviet-Afghan war.
A true rebellion in the US would be actually be far deadlier. Americans are much richer than Afghanis ever were and have a fuckload more at their disposal. This is also not discounting that foreign elements who want to see the Trump regime toppled would be more than happy to send in tons of material to whatever opposing side exists, meaning they may not need to rely on shitty IED for long and would have proper factory made explosives and other weapons available.
This is a bit disengenuous though. Vietnam was a war on foreign soil. The vietcong did not have to win, they just had to male it politically and financially untenable for the US to carry on. Same with Afghanistan. It will never be politically or financially untenable for the fascists to keep suppressing the citizens.
Except in this case, half of the “farmers” support the regime.
1 sniper can kill many, many enemy officers. This is a historical precedent.
You don’t need heavy artillery to wage guerilla warfare and cripple an enemy’s operational capabilities.
A bunch of farmers in Vietnam outlasted us using those tactics.
They didn’t just outlast us, they fucking slaughtered us.
You’re not wrong. But with today’s tech its more unlikely that one sniper is going to be as effective. With drones equipped with IR it’s a lot harder to stay hidden. And in a more urban environment, there are cameras everywhere, and the police have access to everyone’s ring doorbell camera, its getting a lot easier for them to track people down.
Im so sick of this argument. Tell me again how we were defeated in Afghanistan? The US military has a horrible track record when fighting against insurgents and guerrillas.
Unlike Afghanistan and Vietnam, there is nowhere for them to leave US.
The US is Rome and we are Hannibal’s Army, as long as we don’t choke and refuse to sac Rome we absolutely have the an advantage in a lot of ways
Will they stop pigs like this sheriff?
If we had our own nuclear sub? I’m sure that could help.
Leftist infighting prevents us from forming the peoples’ nuclear navy.
I mean are you really asking me to build a nuclear powered submarine because I know a guy. I know more than a few guys.
“The enemy can not press a button… if you have disabled his hand …Medic!”
- Career Sergeant Zim
So, the cops are the bugs in the scenario? The Mobile Infantry approves.
Tanks can burn
Jets struggle against individual personnel
I don’t really give a damn about nukes because it sounds like a fast death
You cannot occupy an area without exposed boots on the ground and those footsoldiers are absolutely susceptible to small arms
Stop giving up because it sounds hard
How do you fight the NSA though? Whne they tag you as a dissident, and the government freezes your assets and accounts. You are denied medical treatment and employment. Added to no fly lists, no travel lists etc etc. This is how the fascists maintain control, using the ‘security’ apparatus. This is what you have to contend with.
Yup.
Been for strict gun control all my life. And, in a decent country, I still would be.
But this isn’t a decent country. It’s a country full of low-IQ fools and fascists and racists, so it’s time to get armed and prepare for the worst, which appears to be where we’re headed.
I think maybe he things that makes him sound tough, instead of like a problem in desperate need of solving that could have been ignored had it not been so persistent.
Guess we find out tomorrow
Sounds like it’s time to start killing Florida cops
Grew up there, Ivey is a white supremacist and a terrible sheriff and person.
Are you certain he’s a person?
dehumanization is generally ill advised, but sometimes it just makes so much sense
He forfeited his tolerance contract.
Is self dehumanizing a thing? Because I think this guy is doing that.
Some of those that work forces…
It just doesn’t stop playing in my head.
We’re noticing, yes
Sounds like he’s wanting to replace the disgraced and convicted Joe Arpaio in fascist minds.
All I see is a tiny, insecure so-called man talking tough and playing with guns to convince the world he’s not a scared child inside.
The whole thing hangs off the rule of law. There aren’t enough cops to control the population, it only works because the population controls itself because they accept the rule of law. If the cops go rogue or the politicians, eventually the belief in the rule falters then chaos.
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That’s not chaos, that’s progress. (The coup circa 1993)
You’re talking rule of law vs rule by law.
I don’t get what they think the endgame is going to be here. Because it’s not going to work out well for them either.
So why shouldn’t the protesters shoot to kill as well?
In this county they should apparently.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
By “they” do you me “we?”
Which is less incriminating?
I’m not from the US, but I appreciate the inclusion 💕
Look mom, I have made friends!
That’s pretty much what they’re stating here–they’re telling protestors in Florida to skip the non-lethal weapons
That’s the point, they’re inciting violence.
They need the excuse to install a complete police state.
piece of shit cowards.
It’s not nice of him to say it like that, but that’s pretty much what everyone knows cops are doing. I don’t think anyone ecpects a different outcome.
One could argue a peaceful protest is different from a riot and cops shouldn’t kill peaceful protesters, but there’s always a chance they will.
If someone wants zero risk, they can only do short operations that don’t need much media coverage to be effective and without a chance for the cops to be present or find them afterwards.
What is the point of this comment that you made and the decision to make it?
the point is to inspire people who don’t want to risk their health or want to be more effective to find more effective ways to cause change.
the decision to make it was, that i don’t like to watch ppl get hurt and know there are more effective ways, which spoil if one mentions them too publicly. So ppl have to come up with them privately, so the cops can’t expect and hurt them.
All of those situations can be avoided by them not ordering their officers to show up and harass the protesters. If the cops actually stayed out of the way and allowed them to peacefully protest, there is never a point where anyone should get spit on, hit, or threatened. Then again, if police weren’t treating everyone as criminals all the time, it would severely reduce the number of officers they would need.
Partly because of respect, and partly because when you aren’t harassing the population, they don’t have as many reasons to react.
that’s true, but past violent protests with looting and causing damage led to broad calls of regular citizens for police to be there just in case. then, there are those among police who enjoy hurting others and will try to escalate any peaceful protest to a fight.
the only way to end this spiral, would be for protesters to instantly take down rioters among themselves, disperse and go home, so it would become a rare exception for riots to start and police would no longer show up after a few years. but is this realistic? even if some groups manage to do that, others won’t. also police could always send instigators who throw the first brick, then leave, so their colleagues have a reason to kill some protesters
You guys lack strategy.
Do it like a Bundy ranch - get armed. They won’t touch you if you are bunch of armed peopleDo it like a Bundy ranch
What was notable about Bundy Ranch is how gentle the police were even after they’d been shot at.
This wasn’t an issue of firepower, it was an issue of white nationalism. Police sympathized with the ranchers in a way they simply do not with anyone young, particularly of color.
Compare that to the FBI raiding the Waco compound or the US Marshalls going after Ruby Ridge. Police have no trouble showing up at your door with a tank. The only thing that protects you is ethnicity.
Real “occupying military presence” vibe off the guys who are supposed to Serve and Protect.
Beginning to wonder if cops aren’t here to be my friend.
I was at a protest earlier to day. We walked down the streets and kept getting followed by dudes revving their engines.
No one in this forum who calls for violence against other people and sometimes for the killing of cops is even a bit better than this brain-dead sheriff. American society is so deeply divided.
Opposing a militant regime seeking to do harm to you and yours is not the same as enacting systemic violence to oppress marginalized people.
If cops and the state are gonna call to kill protestors then protestors and the people being targeted can call to arm themselves to defend against it.
Yes, America is divided. For good reason.
Indeed, no hope for America and Americans. This is a civil war that can take decades to heal
Weirdest shit was the time I was drunk with a cop buddy. With his cop friends. Who were also getting loose lips and telling stories and one of them checked them all and said. I wasn’t a cop. And not to talk about that stuff around me. Still bothers me. I never saw that friend again. But ya. Wild stuff.
what
They were getting a little too real with their stories. Of getting shot at and doing overall terrible vile actions.
