Ban social media and advertising/marketing. Smart phones are just a small computer.
Ehhhh no.
I can get behind “ban spying on me.”
I can even get behind “ban social media, especially the kind that makes you sell yourself, though pseudononymous link aggregators are less the issue.”
But “no more torrenting at work, no more reading digitally while pooping, no more encrypted chats, now have to carry a book, a camera, an mp3 player, my GBC, and a dumb phone, just to make up for the phone?”
No.
Smartphones make us more social, allowing us to reach each other ad hoc, not just by planning the meeting for a week. They makes us more free by providing helping tools like GPS and similar. They make us happier by helping to kill time while standing in the line or riding on the bus.
You’re doing something wrong.
Social media has replaced and ruined real human interaction.
And what does it have to do with smartphones? You think that “social media” is “antisocial”? Well, then write it as “ban social media”. Be precise with formulations.
And what does it have to do with smartphones?
You said they make us “more social”. I said they don’t.
You think that “social media” is “antisocial”? Well, then write it as “ban social media”
Also acceptable.
You realize you’re on social media right now?
You realized I said “replaced”?
So you used to hang out with your friends and share articles and comment on them in person then upvote/downvote and moderate? ok sure whatever you say…
So you used to hang out with your friends
Yes
smartphones are one of rhe hundreds o things that would probably be just fine and good if it weren’t for capitalism
classic lemmy
Greed isn’t limited to any one economic system, I fear.
Seems more like a power thing but I guess that’s greed too
There is no other economic system.
And “greed” isn’t really the problem with capitalism. It’s more about the violent deprivation of human needs in order to exploit people for the extreme privilege of a tiny minority. Etc.
There is no other economic system.
If lemmy.ml could read this, they’d be very upset.
No, they’d just laugh at the morons
Idk, Smartphones under Feudalism can be just as bad, if not worse.
Is Jacobin just garbage or am I just seeing only garbage articles?
Idk why don’t you go directly to the site?
Looks fine to me but they’re preaching to the choir. You’re certainly right that people have only been posting their shit takes here.
Like some kind of engagement or rage bait or something
Why is the left so intent on becoming Luddites? What the fuck is this timeline?
Because luddism is good. But this article aint it.
No it isn’t. Technology is the evolutionary adaptation of humanity. It would be like a tiger cutting off its claws, or a rabbit breaking its own legs.
This left wing Luddite attitude is simply fueled by fucking tribalism because it wasn’t really anywhere to be found until the tech bros turned republican.
No. Smartphones convicted the murderer of George Floyd. Smartphones have shown to the world the police brutality that happens at peaceful protests. Technology isn’t inherently evil, it’s how its used.
Smart phones are just pocket computers. Up to you how their used, good evil neutral it’s all at ur fingertips.
And then what? Go back to the stone age?
Kids waiting to get picked at school and their parents have emergency, how are they gonna inform the others to get picked up? Are they gonna just let that kid suck it up and wait for hours, just like the good old times?
What? Corded phones exist, and most schools and offices have at least one in each room. Dumb phones exist. Pagers exist.
Smart phones are not the only singular solution for easy, quick contact.
The stone age = any time before 2005 apparently 🙄
How about no. I’ve been wanting a pocketable “do everything” device since I got a Tiger Electronics Pokedex as a kid.
How about better regulations on the obscene amount of data collection going on behind our backs? I can’t count how many times I’ve come across even just websites that have a giant “accept all cookies” button, but in order to reject any, you have to dig through layers and layers of “settings”. The most I’ve seen was 80+. And that’s just websites.
I’m about to wipe my phone and go all-in on Calyx OS.
Me who has a disability which prevents me from speaking and hearing people and renders me bedridden.
“Okay, guess I’ll die then”
Hey David, can you guess how many people are reading your article from a smartphone? Convenient, isn’t it.
Want to complain about smartphones? Write a book… or something that can be published on fucking paper.
Bad take.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Moscrop
Journalists tell themselves they can make their ends meet by publishing a book pretty frequently.
Turns out that’s rarely true. He seems to be mainly a podcaster though? Those lines can get blurry.
Also, the Jacobin is a magazine that still sells a printed version…
So, can you guess which percentage of people prefer using an smartphone to read these kind of anti smartphone articles? Do you see the issue? The irony?
This is just trash ragebait dude.
The problem is with planned obsolescence and capitalist drive to always make more. The device itself is not inherently bad, it’s a glorified calculator.
Author admits smartphones are ubiquitous, and doesn’t at all consider, in a hypothetical situation where everyone unanimously agreed to stop using them, where all this e-waste will go?
Also, how do you disillusion the millions of people that use them religiously?
I get the sentiment, but only a significant technologically literate society would really appreciate the need for greater control over their devices and actually possess the skills needed to modify and configure them.
Author admits smartphones are ubiquitous, and doesn’t at all consider, in a hypothetical situation where everyone unanimously agreed to stop using them, where all this e-waste will go?
Pretty much every single smartphone in use right now will be ewaste 20 years from now, and most of them will be within 10. So we have that disposal problem already regardless. Hypothetically, if everyone were to get rid of their phones, we’d at least stop creating even more future ewaste.
Current smart phones will become e-waste either way. On that front, the benefit would be forcing all manufacturers to stop creating more e-waste for the future.
I’m pretty far down the luddite/makhaevist wormhole… But this is just a garbage idea.
so much bullshit
