Former Gov. Andrew Cuomo conceded New York City’s Democratic mayoral primary to Zohran Mamdani as the 33-year old member of the state Assembly had a significant lead in the race Tuesday night.
Cuomo’s concession came as the race’s outcome will be decided by a ranked choice count after neither Democrat got a clear majority in the vote.
Mamdani, a 33-year-old democratic socialist member of the state Assembly, started to pull ahead with more than an estimated 80% of ballots counted.
So you don’t have to spend millions on a liberal Joe Rogan, or attack trans people, or support genocide to win a race in America? God damn, that’s incredible!
I’m very happy to hear this news. Genuinely one of the best news I’ve heard all year round. Maybe there is a sliver of hope.
You just have to ignore all polls and vote with your conscience. The polls were clearly bullshit imo. All the chatter completely ignoring everyone but Adams and Cuomo were bullshit.
Yes you do. I hate to be a pessimist, but Trump and all he’s doing is a major contributor souring people about extremists and establishment. If Harris had won, I don’t think this would have been the outcome because people wouldn’t be nearly as riled up about politics, in general.
When rumpy won in 2016, after my initial shock I thought, well maybe he will make it so bad, we will collectively be forced to see the truth, forced to come together and actually have a positive change for the working people.
I didnt know then, that I’d be fearing for the loss of democracy as a whole in 2025, but I think my initial thought still stands.
Maybe this wouldn’t be the outcome if Harris won, but if the silver lining is people start paying attention, I’m happy for it.
Yeah, I certainly hope they do as well! It’s high time people started to give a fuck about what our elected leaders do.
I have seen articles saying that a Zohran win would force the Democratic Party to face change, and acknowledge the rising progressive movement. Let’s see if they accept the changes, or they fight against it. I suspect they’ll fight, but if other elections start moving left, they’ll be forced to change.
The next big test will be the mid-term primaries. Hopefully, this win will encourage progressives to run, and hopefully they’ll win enough primary races to become a serious threat, especially against Establishment Dems.
And I hope one of them is AOC primarying Chuck Schumer. That spineless, whining bitch has got to go. He holds a lot of the blame for the rise of MAGA.
Will it force the Democratic voters to finally show up to vote? That’s the main question.
My mid-20s son is energized for the first time. He’s been voting all along, but he’s been very unmotivated by his choices. This is the first time I’ve seen him excited to vote (for Zohran).
We are finally seeing progressives, especially YOUNG progressives reaching their breaking point. They are justifiably pissed off at the establishment Democrats who are complicit in the rise and dominance of MAGA, and they are determined to make a change. They fully believe that their futures depend on it, and they now understand that they will get absolutely no help from the Establishment Dems. They know it’s up to them to sculpt their own future at the ballot box.
Give them candidates that they can believe in, like Zohran, and Young Progressives will come out big.
Give them
Again with this passive shit. Nobody is supposed to give you anything, it’s politics, people present their worldview and gather votes of those who agree. Regressive democrats vote, progressive don’t, that’s why you are “given” candidates you generally see. If you want to see better candidates, vote for better candidates.
It pisses me off for no end, you go to any lefty space, all that you see is perpetual “voting is pointless, don’t vote, I voted once 20 years ago and look what it brought us, you should firebomb wallmarts instead. By the way, why all the candidates that win are so bad, it’s like they don’t listen to us”.For real. Imagine not turning out to vote and then being shocked that nobody goes out of their way to cater their platform to you.
yeah, middle aged progressive here. I can’t tell you how jazzed I am to see Cuomo take up his new job of Gently Used Airport Scarecrow. I really hope the establishment is seeing the writing on the wall.
Middle age progressives have been pissed off since 2009 or so, when Congress scraped the public option from the ACA. We won a few victories (yay marriage equality) but the ghouls can lie, like they lied about keeping roe. So they will keep winning until they are met with honest people willing to change the system.
Socialism or lose.
Middle age progressives didn’t vote for Bernie twice. Is it because they’re actually small in numbers or is it because they are pissed but don’t channel this energy into anything? I let you to decide which is worse.
I keep writing my reps about how much I approve of Sanders, Ocasio-Cortez, and I’ll now mention Zohran too!
I live in a blue state near NY. Im tired of the Dem party not backing actual progressive candidates.
Let your reps know how much you approve of their messages! We need hope!
I think they’ll try to slow the progress as much as possible. They’ll run candidates that like promise 50% of what the further-left candidate promises, cook up a resume that makes them look more “experienced” than the more further-left candidate, then when they win, they only do 10% of what’s promised, then find excuses, while continuing to masquerade as a progressive.
I mean, if I were a greedy rich person, that’s how I’ll manipulate politics.
I don’t mean to blunt your enthusiasm, but this was just a primary election, so only registered Democrats were voting here. So a much different demographic than 51 separate Presidential elections. But still, it’s a sign that the voters in the city are fed up with the politics-as-usual the party is force-feeding them.
There are a lot more Democrats than Republicans there, though, so this should give him the inside track for the job, especially if Cuomo backs down from his threat to run Independant. (I think he knows that if he did that, he will never win an endorsement from any other Democrat, ever, so that may give him pause.) Adams is running as an independant, but I think the city is done with him. Curtis Sliwa is the Republican nominee, but he hasn’t been relevant since the 80s and 90s, and is kind of a cartoon now.
You are way understating his odds at winning the general.
Your implicit argument that so-called “centrist” Democrats are better at winning purple states because voters all exist along a simple left to right spectrum is absolutely wrong. The people in this country are fed up and they want revolution. Republicans offered it, and Democrats didn’t. The rightward lurch was just an artifact of people rationalizing their vote and conforming to the stereotype on offer.
One big excuse the Democratic establishment gave was that the world is in an anti-incombancy mood. That’s a correct observation, but what is really happening is the death of neoliberalism everywhere. The one big outlier to the trend was Mexico where an aging male President successfully handed the reigns over to his protege, a younger woman. The difference is, they were progressives. Mexico is also arguably a more religiously conservative country than America.
The wonky framing of the US electorate has been the standard Democratic perspective for decades. It’s what led to the income inequality we have now. It’s what led to Trump, and the complete routing of Democrats in both federal and state governments. For the love of God, wake up already.
The Democrats don’t win because they aren’t real people, they are characters on TV that people are sick of. Neoliberalism drains the blood and passion that people want to see in leadership. Republicans have it, and Democrats don’t. It’s past time that changed.
Thank fuck
Hopefully he wins the general
Adams doesn’t stand a chance
Wtf happened to Adams? Sure, he was under criminal corruption indictments, then cozied up to Trump and got “pardoned” (charges dismissed). But then he was supposed to be on the Democratic primary ballot, his picture was even in the official voter guide from a month ago, but on election day his name wasn’t even in the list? Now he’s apparently running as independent incumbent instead? What a booger!
EDIT: Both Cuomo and Adams are intending to run as independent in the general? WhyTF do we even have primaries then! If they are not going to play by their own rules of their special little club, let’s just extend Ranked Choice Voting to cover the general and scrap the primaries altogether!
The article says Adams is running as an independent, and that Cuomo has the option and is looking into it! It’s not decided.
He’s probably trying to save face; he’s on record in May saying he’s running no matter the result of the primary.
WhyTF do we even have primaries then!
So progressives don’t get any ideas. As I said elsewhere in the thread: I better not hear another liberal saying we can’t split the vote again.
I assume you mean in reference to the general last year? I raged against the way the left brought disaster upon the Palestinians despite their best intentions. This outcome, however, is exactly what I argued the left should be doing: fight FOR the left in primaries, vote AGAINST fascists in the general. You are damn close to sham elections as it is, giving the facisits any opportunity to shut down democracy is self defeating.
I assume you mean in reference to the general last year?
That’s the most recent example, yes, but you get this spiel whenever you suggest going against the party in anything beyond local elections.
I raged against the way the left brought disaster upon the Palestinians despite their best intentions.
Where are you getting the idea that it was the left that let Trump win? Democrat non-voters were for the most part moderates.
fight FOR the left in primaries, vote AGAINST fascists in the general.
The whole point of this mantra is to not split the anti-fascist vote. And what are the Democrats doing now after not getting their way? Ignore the primary and split the anti-fascist vote. The whole point of not splitting the vote is defeated when the liberals then decide to split the vote. I’m also very much not convinced that a vote for Democrats is a vote against fascism given that they just voted not to impeach Trump.
Where are you getting the idea that it was the left that let Trump win? Democrat non-voters were for the most part moderates.
no centrist has ever cared. they don’t want to move to the left under any circumstances, so they blame the left every time their unpopular policies, refusal to represent anyone but themselves, cowardice, and complicity lose them elections.
fight FOR the left in primaries, vote AGAINST fascists in the general
That’s how it should have worked, except that in the 2024 Democratic Presidential primary, when Biden was the only name on the ballot, we were STILL told to vote for him and only him or we’d be supporting Trump. In the primary! Voters in Michigan tried to campaign for “uncommitted” option in protest of the ongoing genocide in Gaza and how the administration was ignoring it, and they were crucified by establishment Democrats. Even Bernie Sanders distanced himself from the protest vote, saying to vote Biden no matter what. In the primaries!
The way Democrats run primaries is shameful, no denying it. But the only way to change the dems is to get actively involved, push for RCV, start grass roots, and, yes, vote for the good guy in the primary.
and, yes, vote for the good guy in the primary.
when the party deigns to have them.
As I said elsewhere in the thread: I better not hear another liberal saying we can’t split the vote again.
Do you actually understand the difference between FPTP and ranked choice?
Do you actually understand the voting process you’re commenting on?
The NYC general is FPTP, and Cuomo is running anyway despite having lost the primary. Neither me nor the other person are criticizing anyone for running in the primary.
They’re talking about the general election, which is FPTP, and losing primary moderates refusing the result and trying again in the general.
WhyTF do we even have primaries then! If they are not going to play by their own rules of their special little club, let’s just extend Ranked Choice Voting to cover the general and scrap the primaries altogether!
Because the US doesn’t really have a true democracy. It’s always going to be weighted against the actual interests of the people. The more success candidates the Zohran have, the more the established politicians will stack the deck against them. The good thing is that the more the game is rigged the more obvious it all becomes.
centrists are still the wing of puma pac.
And they had the temerity to say “no matter who” for three fucking election cycles.
This is the dream of ranked choice. The more candidates the better.
Don’t understand why it wasn’t done this way in the first place. RCV was approved as a New York City Charter amendment by a voter initiative in 2019, but only applies to primary city elections, not general. You’d think procedurally it would be easier to justify altering the general election process that the Constitution actually applies to, rather than what is technically internal business of independent private organizations (the Democratic and the Republican parties).
I don’t realize it wouldn’t be in the main election. If so, then Cuomo better not run… Maybe they do it like this as a stepping stone. Get everybody used to the process in the primaries before rolling it out to the main.
Sure would be nice if this is a sign of things to come
Mamdani destroyed Cuomo in the first round of RCV, when it was expected to be much closer. This gives me a hesitant hope that nationally the voters want real change within the Democratic party. Let’s just hope this isn’t a fluke, and the technofascists have really awoken a huge progressive voting bloc.
The squad was born in the original Trump administration so it shouldn’t be that surprising to see a return of these kinds of progressive candidates.
Fingers crossed, but give us rank choice voting or I fear the progressive bloc will not be obvious
That’s why there’s such fervent pushback against any RCV proposals across the country (from both sides of the duopoly). Many places have already outlawed it because they see it would actually affect real change, and they just can’t have a challenge to their financial streams and power.
Oh this news made me smile. Let’s go NYC!
If the sexual predators coalition had won this thing the party might have collapsed. So this is good for the party and the city.
It is unfair to reduce them to that. They are also staunch supporters of genocide and imperialism.
I saw this somewhere else, but if Cuomo tries to run in the general election as an independent, Mamdani’s line should be: “Cuomo: no means no”.
This is why ranked choice has been banned in a lot of places. It breaks the duopoly.
The election here was the Democratic primary. It didn’t cut the Democrats out of the loop.
Ha ha, whoops I should read the articles.
Democrats hate progressives. The two would be separate parties in a sensible democracy, but in the legacy first-past-the-post American system, splitting the party while Republicans exist is political suicide. There are more progressives than center Democrats, but they are not as united as the core establishment Democrats are, which made any one of them irrelevant in primaries up to now. RCV has given them a real chance for the first time. For example by giving Lander votes to Mamdani in the instant runoff. The moment RCV got implemented, long-serving Democrats started suddenly getting kicked out in the primaries. This terrifies them, so Democrats will continue to fight against RCV in the future. Just look how both Cuomo and Adams will try to commit political murder-suicide now by running as independent in the general just so that the “official Democratic party nominee” would not win.
At least RCV is a single and measurable cause to ralley around. I feel like public pressure tends to be more effective when focused on causes such as these.
Democratic Voters don’t hate progressives, its the rich doners that hate progressives so they spend millions to fund the status quo candidates to keep thenselves rich.
Democrats hate progressives
Democrats hate socialists. Their job is to ensure that the leftward fringe of the party, and of acceptable mainstream discourse, never moves past progressive/social democracy. The Democratic Party serves capital by ensuring a neutered American left
Hopefully this can be changed
They’re acting as close to a controlled opposition as ever before.
TBF it’s possible that RCV created an incentive for Democrats to nominate a better candidate. They’re smarter than they look.
I suspect that a party that ran a ranked choice primary to select a candidate for a FPTP election would have an advantage over an opposing party that didn’t. I haven’t got the math or statistics to back it up, but everything I’ve read about ranked choice discouraging scorched earth politics sounds like it would be healthy in a primary.
Let’s fucking goooooo
Not the mayor I want, but then again I didn’t particularly want Cuomo either. I wish there had been a viable centrist candidate who hadn’t resigned in shame from his last position.
Insisting on “Viable centrist candidates” no matter how far right the GOP moves the Overton Window is how you get fascism.
At this point, a “Centrist” in the US is far right by the standards of democracies in general.
It is probably a dog whistle for Zionist. Mamdani has been outspoken against Zionism.
checks comment history of ArbitraryValue
Yup, sure seems to be a zionist at any rate…
People can also fall for and parrot a dog whistle without understanding it.
At any rate it is ridiculous how the New York City mayor race was centered around whether the candidates “support Israel” or are “antisemites”.
There are no serious GOP candidates for mayor in New York - that’s why the Democratic primary rather than the general election is such a big deal. And the local Overton window is moving so far left that a man who supported Defund the Police back when it was cool (he says he doesn’t anymore) is probably going to be the next mayor.
If you think fence sitting is the way to pull us out of the situation we’re in, maybe just sit out the next few election cycles, champ.
Getting a liberal with ethics. Good luck.
If performative ethics were an Olympic sport…
Watching the commentary would be hilarious.
What does “viable centrist” mean in the context of a NYC mayoral election?
I’d say that Adams ran as a centrist candidate. Bloomberg too.
You’re only counting how they ran, not how they performed as mayors?
Because Adams has hardly performed as a mayor the way he campaigned. He certainly didn’t campaign on taking lots of bribes. And, for some reason, when he ran he managed to pretend he wasn’t a former cop, but when he took office his coppiness sure came back out.
Yes, and I’m certainly unhappy about Adams’ performance (as are most New Yorkers). However, I think you’re wrong about his status as a former cop - it was not something he hid or downplayed when he was campaigning, and many people voted for him because he was the law and order candidate.
Ok, you’re right that he didn’t pretend he wasn’t a cop. I guess I meant it more in the sense of he sold himself as someone who was no longer a cop, and was going hold them to account. For example:
As mayor, I’d undertake reforms such as forcing the NYPD to publish its “monitoring list” of bad cops, making it easier for whistleblowers to identify bad cops, & recruiting Black & brown officers from high-crime communities.
https://x.com/ericadamsfornyc/status/1358966542747250689
This is something cops almost never do. They never go after their own. If a former cop had actually gone after bad cops, it would have been a really newsworthy thing. Cynics never believed he would do that, because they know how cops (both former and current) care much more about other cops than they do about the public. But, I think some people believed that he was telling the truth and that he’d try to clean up the police force.
So, did he crack down on bad cops? Of course not. He backed a secret police unit filled with those same bad cops. In fact, he got special live-stream feeds from their body cameras.
I’m cynical, but I’d never vote for someone who had been a cop for 20 years, and I’d certainly never believe them if they said they were going to reform the police department. Maybe I’d believe it if someone had been kicked out of the police for being a whistle blower. But, someone who worked as a cop for 20 years then stepped down to run for political office? Nah dude, that guy is always going to side with the cops. If he’s not a bad apple himself, he’s definitely spoiled along with the rest of the bunch.
What does vote splitting have to do with a Democratic primary?
The liberal candidate who lost (Cuomo) has announced he is going to run in the general as an independent (which is in OP’s link), instead of supporting the nominee. So Cuomo primary voters may split from the Democratic nominee in the general for Cuomo.
I wonder if the party will fund the candidate its voters wanted or if they will fund cuomo.
The “party” will, they’ll just get an immediate drop in donations from the rich and a new organization not obligated to the party will spring up flush with cash. Sort of like how the establishment abandoned the Nevada DNC after progressives won the election to take it over.
The gist is what the other person said, but to expand on the the point I wanted to make: Whenever you (or, well, I) suggest that the left should antagonize the DNC, liberals come out of the woodwork saying that splitting the anti-conservative vote will only lead to conservatives winning and that instead leftists should vote in primaries. The idea is that if the leftist candidate wins the liberals will respect party norms and support the winner of the primary, providing a safer path to progress. Here we have the liberal favorite completely shitting on party norms and running as an independent even though he lost the primary to a leftist, so the whole proposition of a united front against the right through primaries falls apart. This would fatally discredit the idea that primaries are a viable substitute for a leftist third party if liberals cared about facts.
Yeah except you using “liberals” like this makes zero sense.
There are plenty of people who think leftists should back the “centrist/liberal” candidate in the general if they win the primary. There are also plenty of people who think Cuomo should fuck all the way off in the exact same method now that the leftist candidate has won. I’m sure there are some centrist voters who obviously buck that trend (same as some leftists when their primary person doesn’t win) but I feel like the solid majority would rather win and move things left regardless of pace than give it to Republicans (or Adams, which is close enough.)
Just because Cuomo is a terrible person doesn’t mean all “liberals” support him in running.
Here’s to hoping Zohran destroys Adams and if he is shithead enough to run, Cuomo too.
It’s funny- your guy won and you’re still mad. Take some time to celebrate. JFC. This is a GOOD thing man.
I’m using this primary to illustrate a wider point about strategy here; I can do that and be happy that Mamdani won.
Liberals: No one can even run in the primary against our geriatric dear leader since it could cause a rift in the party
Also liberals: This anti semite is too dangerous, we must save the voters from there decision with our favorite sex criminal.
Some good news for the week.
Someone is going to run as an independent in the general election. I really hope they aren’t able to rat fuck this win.
Honestly, Cuomo and Adams have the same target demographic: assholes. Everyone else backs Zohran
I hope I am wrong. But I have a fear that the knives are going to come out more so than they have already.
And I am proven correct.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/26/politics/cuomo-mamdani-mayor-november-ballot
I sure hope assholes don’t have a large voter turnout in [checks notes] New York City!??
You don’t mess with the Zohran.
Guessing there will be a new appointment announced soon
As non american I just discovered Mamdani and he seems like a legit dude who cares and has the energy to match. Wishing luck to New York friends here!
How long util he gets couped by the CIA?
CIA doesn’t even need to get involved. Just a “terrorist” accusation and arrest them.
They’re already pre-announcing the Reichstag Fire they’re about to stage.
(I’m assuming it will be executed with the full and enthusiastic cooperation of the nypd)
FIRST ROUND KNOCKOUT! 🤛
Incredible result for him and NY, and I hope this signs the death knell of Cuomo’s career. Step off, creeper.
