The only reason I’ve ever seen to call the cops was when someone sped through a light, gained air over a hedge, and smashed hood first into a building. And that was just because i wanted the ambulance to get to them fast.
Noise? Never.
Fights? Never.
Strange noises. Never.
Etc etc.
All they do is cause more problems.
what? fuck off with this acab bullshit, it’s not all black and white, if there’s a knife fight in the neighbor’s house i’m calling the police, and i’m appalled that there’s someone who wouldnt.
what do you suggest, getting stabbed yourself? ignoring it and letting an innocent human being die? how would you even sleep with that at night?
the problem is they never check who’s who before they start shooting. there are numerous instances where the person who calls the police for protection is the one who gets shot.
so your choice is between a stabbing and a shooting. and a stabbing you might be able to run away from.
just because police are uncompetent pigs who sometimes shoot the caller, doesn’t mean that in the majority of the cases they’ll shoot them.
And just because you have that 1% risk of getting wrongly shot (could be lower, pulled the number out of my ass) doesn’t mean you should try to face the very real and instant threat of another person trying to stab you.
availability bias, there are so many traffic stops, checkups, calls, etc every day that go just fine and you never hear about, and of those that end in the news, BWCs have proven police right in most cases
When you’re a woman getting the shit beat out of you by a man who could easily kill you (this is the case for the majority of men to the majority of women) and its call the cops or be seriously fucked up or killed it’s a pretty easy choice to make. Domestic violence is often one sided or at least one sided in who is able to defend themselves, it’s not a fight when one side is wildly out matched
what, the domestic abuse hotline with one person at the call center located at the other side of the country? that will then proceed to call the police anyways?
Yeah, calling other domestic abusers to protect you is definitely the best way to deal with your abuser. It definitely won’t upset them more and will surely lead to everyone being resolved.
If they kill their abuser, they are actually likely to end up in jail themselves.
Up a little in Oklahoma, that’s why we have one of the highest incarceration rates of women in the states/world - a lot of those women are in there for fighting back.
DV is a fucked if you do, fucked if you don’t situation.
Every interaction I’ve ever had with police I’ve been the one attempting to de escalate. Literally 100%. What’s frustrating is you speaking calmly and clearly pisses them off even more because they feel like you’re speaking down to them. They feel like they are supposed to be the reasonable ones and you’re making them look bad. Which of course you are, because they’re not.
The only reason I’ve ever seen to call the cops was when someone sped through a light, gained air over a hedge, and smashed hood first into a building. And that was just because i wanted the ambulance to get to them fast.
Noise? Never.
Fights? Never.
Strange noises. Never.
Etc etc.
All they do is cause more problems.
what? fuck off with this acab bullshit, it’s not all black and white, if there’s a knife fight in the neighbor’s house i’m calling the police, and i’m appalled that there’s someone who wouldnt.
what do you suggest, getting stabbed yourself? ignoring it and letting an innocent human being die? how would you even sleep with that at night?
the problem is they never check who’s who before they start shooting. there are numerous instances where the person who calls the police for protection is the one who gets shot.
so your choice is between a stabbing and a shooting. and a stabbing you might be able to run away from.
this sounds awfully similar to “man or bear”
just because police are uncompetent pigs who sometimes shoot the caller, doesn’t mean that in the majority of the cases they’ll shoot them.
And just because you have that 1% risk of getting wrongly shot (could be lower, pulled the number out of my ass) doesn’t mean you should try to face the very real and instant threat of another person trying to stab you.
In the context of the US, i’d say 1% is probably the percentage of actual competent, professional, relatively unbiased cops.
availability bias, there are so many traffic stops, checkups, calls, etc every day that go just fine and you never hear about, and of those that end in the news, BWCs have proven police right in most cases
and just as man vs bear, you have to be very privileged to not get why bear is the popular choice.
yes, having a functioning brain is very privileged in these trying times, thanks for the acknowledgement
that doesn’t even make sense… having a functioning brain prevents you from understanding why the bear was a popular choice?
no, it makes me understand the levels of delusion and irrealism (and the inability to do math) people have, be it with man or bear or ACAB
oh god i didn’t think it would get worse but it got worse
Ok concern troll.
We all know knife fights are so rampant among neighbors…
i mean you were the one who brought up not calling the police on fights, soo
Ok bootlicker
When you’re a woman getting the shit beat out of you by a man who could easily kill you (this is the case for the majority of men to the majority of women) and its call the cops or be seriously fucked up or killed it’s a pretty easy choice to make. Domestic violence is often one sided or at least one sided in who is able to defend themselves, it’s not a fight when one side is wildly out matched
I completely understand. But there are other numbers that can be called.
what, the domestic abuse hotline with one person at the call center located at the other side of the country? that will then proceed to call the police anyways?
be realistic
Realistic? Where in a thread about calling the cops and the cops calling ICE on the victim.
I don’t know how much more realistic you want to get.
Yeah, calling other domestic abusers to protect you is definitely the best way to deal with your abuser. It definitely won’t upset them more and will surely lead to everyone being resolved.
You’re right they should just… get killed instead then?
Or kill their abuser. If the situation is that dire, then the cops aren’t going to make it in time anyway.
If they kill their abuser, they are actually likely to end up in jail themselves.
Up a little in Oklahoma, that’s why we have one of the highest incarceration rates of women in the states/world - a lot of those women are in there for fighting back.
DV is a fucked if you do, fucked if you don’t situation.
Your dog will not be shot.
if there’s a breaking and entering you probably have more chance reasoning with the trespasser than having anything good come from pigs showing up.
Depends on your melanin content unfortunately. Fuck racist pigs
A random non-cop is probably going to have better de-escalation skills than a cop too
Every interaction I’ve ever had with police I’ve been the one attempting to de escalate. Literally 100%. What’s frustrating is you speaking calmly and clearly pisses them off even more because they feel like you’re speaking down to them. They feel like they are supposed to be the reasonable ones and you’re making them look bad. Which of course you are, because they’re not.
My experience is the opposite, but I realize that’s because I’m a white dude.