nobody was expecting linux users sucking eachothers cocks in the comment section
I was, and so was c/unixsocks
idk tf chown does, use sudo instead. im not going to read
man chowneither.sudo su # do shenanigans in the cli/tui. gui is for noobs # nvim, ls, touch, stroke, tease, rmSo I’m not the best at this, but this is my best guess (I have no experience in sysadmin, as I’ve only ever been the sole user of my PC and prefer not to network anything).
Owner #1, smackyboi, has ownership of a file called
smutgame.AppImage. This means they can choose who accesses smutgame, if it can execute, if it can be read or written by certain groups, etc.Owner #2, luvurealgood, on the system via their own account (or networked computer in the case of server storage) can’t change these settings unless smackyboi says they could, because they’re the owner and can add luvurealgood to the admin group for the file if they want. Smackyboi suddenly writes,
sudo chown luvurealgood smutgame.AppImage.Now luvurealgood owns that file and can make every change they want to it, including removing smackyboi from accessing it, as they’re no longer the owner. They can lock down the file and forbid it from being executed, etc etc. I believe anyone who is in the admin group of that file can do anything to it as well, except change it’s ownership if its already owned.
This is just from pieces of info and my tiny experience in Windows sysadmin shenanigans. Someone swoop in and correct me if I got anything wrong.
sudo chown <username> <file>chmod 700 <file>Don’t see a problem ;) /s
sudo chown -R <user> /Never have a permission issue again! Lmao
Is there a technical reason that Linux apps can’t/don’t just pop up an authenticator thing asking for more privileges like Windows apps can do? Why does nano just say that the file is unwriteable instead of letting me increase the privileges?
Linux apps follow simplicity principles. If you don’t have permission to delete a file, why assume you may know the password of the user who has permission?
You can preface
sudoto any command to execute it with root privileges, which would be similar to running as admin in windows.Graphical apps do tend to ask for authentication if it makes sense. No userland apps should need more permissions than the current user’s in order to run.
Small pedantic correction, but you can’t preface every command with sudo; only executables can be invoked with sudo as it can’t elevate your current shell. Naturally, the way to execute non-executables such as builtin routines as root is to just spawn into a root shell with sudo su.
Some do. I’m sure it is possible with terminal programs. In KDE, you do get authenticator pop-ups.
With arch+xfce4 I mostly don’t. Except for when I do systemctl reload <service> in a cli without sudo and it pops a surprise elevation password request gui in my face. I haven’t figured out what makes it behave like that.
I use Arch btw 👉🧐 eats booger
That’s the result of polkit (policy kit) authentication agents. These are typically DE-specific for their GUIs.
pkexec is comparable to sudo and can be used from the terminal to get the graphical prompt for elevated commands.
I own you!
take ownership & full access of all resources
threat actor exploits a vulnerable application accessing resources it doesn’t need while running as you to commandeer your system
how did that happen?🤔
I have Windows 10 Pro. I can alter the permissions for anything. If I wanted to, I could delete System32 and fuck the whole thing up.
Pretty sure you can do that for home as well, just as long as you aren’t in S mode.
Otherwise, admin console and clear the file permissions.
All that being said, for your average user, if you are trying to delete a file and windows says you don’t have permission, it’s probably best to leave it alone.
Can you delete Xbox games installed by another administrator? I ran into that problem a few years ago because I reinstalled W10 and had it keep “personal files” which apparently included my Xbox games. I couldn’t touch them at all, but I had W10 Home. I wonder if my problem could’ve been mitigated more easily than a full wipe of the drive? 🤔
I’m pretty sure I can. It just takes a little more effort actually going into the permissions tab of the files because Windows doesn’t have an equivalent to CHMOD AFAIK.
Though, I am pretty sure you can do those basic permission options without Pro or Enterprise. You just need to be on an administrator account. Other things, like messing with actual system files, requires the Group Policy Editor.
On any Windows system based on the NT kernel (XP+), there’s an additional access level above “Administrator”:
NT Authority\SYSTEM. Some malware can make files hidden or write protected even to Administrator, and afaik there isn’t a legitimate way to obtain that authority
Nah removed; root owns me.
Me trying to uninstall edge
I don’t know what’s the hate with edge, it works wonderfully for an average user, it’s fully configurable with add-ons and handles security policies really well
The AI integration might be a bit over the top but nothing you can’t disable in your side
Really I don’t see why you guys pile on so much on it
A lot of the hate comes from Microsoft forcing it down everyones throats.
If it had been left to user choice, they may actually have a decent userbase; but instead it’s been forcefully installed on pretty much every windows computer regardless of the owners preferences, it repeatedly re-asserts itself as the default browser, some windows features are hard-coded to use it and break if its removed, there is no simple uninstall process, and windows update will re-install it if you manually remove it.
It’s my damn computer; if I don’t want a piece of software, I should be able to remove it.
Ditched Windows entirely 2 years ago partly because of that, partly because of the same upcoming behaviour with AI. Fuck Microshaft, I’ll take my money and attention elsewhere. (I was previously paying for/using pro licenses, for features like RDP hosting)
It uses chromium which people shouldn’t use
Because it’s my fucking computer and I shouldn’t have to edit the registry to uninstall a program I don’t use.
After every update it’s also reset to my default browser which is infuriating
Microsoft’s monopoly and their for-profit anti-consumer practices is what’s wrong with it. Their history says they cannot be trusted. I’d ask myself why they need a browser in the first place.
Edge is a fine browser. I use it when Firefox isn’t working for a particular reason.
Edge is the best browser for downloading much better browsers lol
Best Chromium browser*
Edge is literally the first program I use on a fresh install.
You can install firefox via cli like powershell.
winget install Mozilla.FirefoxFirst command I run on any new Windows install
When I want to end myself
My Body: Survival_Instincts.exe has activated
You don’t even own your body lol
Visual representation of the first time I ever saw “owner: nobody”
Is this why people run Arch instead or atomic linux distros?
I prefer to run subatomic Linux
Lol, I had arch tell me that literally last night while I was updating Nvidia drivers. Just reopened dolphin as admin and deleted what I needed to.
My work laptop had a pop-up from an application that basically said “we couldn’t restart last time, so you e got 15 minutes until we reboot your computer” with no way to cancel or prevent the reboot.
Me: the fuck you are
* proceeds to kill the service and process from admin command line*
Get fucked fortinet, I’ll reboot when I’m gods damned ready
“takeown /f c: icacls c:” changed my life. Windows literally has trusted installer listed as owning most of your hard drive on every fresh install, but that is negotiable. at least for the stuff you need.
had a friend that was having problems with his PC and windows kept bitching about he didn’t have permissions. he ripped out the harddrive with it still powered on and threw it off his balcony into the lake screaming, “I fucking own you!”
epic moment in my life to witness such an event.
Did it work after that?
no but he had a second drive and installed xp on it.
vista was at the bottom of the lake.
goes to show how old the story is lol.
In a way, percussive maintenance was successful.
No, but this time the owner knows why it doesn’t work. Big difference in IT.
ROFL
Think about this: let’s say you run a program. Do you want that program to be able to take over the computer and read all your files from now on and send the data to a remote third party?
Probably not.
Permissions were created to stop programs from doing that. By running most software without admin permissions you limit the scope of the damage the software can cause. Software you trust even less should be run with even fewer permissions than a normal user account.
The system is imperfect though. A capability-based system is better. It allows the user to control which specific features of the operating system a running program is allowed to access. For example, a program may request access to location services in order to access your GPS coordinates. You can deny this to prevent the program from tracking you without otherwise preventing the software from running.
You forgot the fact that there might be other people using the same computer and they shouldn’t be able to access the others files.
No I didn’t. Most computers on the planet (phones, tablets, laptops) have only 1 user. The whole multi-user system isn’t obviously useful for these computers.
Everyone knows that multiple user accounts need permissions to prevent users from accessing each other’s files. I didn’t bring it up because it was too obvious.
