• doublebatterypack@piefed.socialEnglish
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    2 days ago

    lol

    You think things would be exactly the same if Harris were president? That is a special kind of delusion you’ve built for yourself.

    • WolfmanEightySix@piefed.socialEnglish
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      2 days ago

      The point is…both sides are right wing, not to the same extent, but you’re arguing about shit versus shit like there’s some huge difference. It’s pathetic.

      • Draces@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        Because there is. Harris wouldn’t be illegally deporting people with secret police to death camps, openly accepting bribes like a 747 from Qatar, trying to make the Ukraine surrender, shitting all over the epa, giving the reigns to Musk to gut the government, creating a meme coin and phone company to really show how little they respect the emoluments clause there are countless examples of “huge differences” that wouldn’t fly under Democrats. Democrats suck, are extremely problematic, and need major reform/replacement but pretending they’re as bad as Republicans is so wildly disingenuous I can’t take people that say that shit seriously

        • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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          2 days ago

          Harris wouldn’t do these things, but she would set the stage for fascists to do these things and more in 2029. Kicking the can down the road simply empowers fascists such that when (not if) they come to power they do more damage than if the bandaid had been ripped off in the first place. I mean, Biden won in 2020 and all America got was better-prepared fascists with a blueprint for how they’ll take over the United States, and as halfhearted as his attempts were at least Biden tried; Harris was only shaping up to be worse. If the only thing y’all can do is kick the can down the road, you might as well rip off the bandaid.

          • svtdragon@lemmy.world
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            2 days ago

            You’ve missed the role of the Supreme Court in this. The Justices appointed by the Ds have been against the worst of it at pretty much every opportunity and they have lifetime appointments.

            That was the real cost of Trump 1.0.

            • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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              2 days ago

              The Justices appointed by the Ds have been against the worst of it at pretty much every opportunity and they have lifetime appointments.

              Yes, but Trump simply responded by de facto weakening the courts and ignoring their authority, and since he has the supreme court anyway they keep allowing him to do whatever he wants. I get what you’re trying to say, but since there was zero chance America would get enough Democrats in a row for the Supreme Court to turn blue, D-appointed judges aren’t going to make a difference in the big picture. On the other hand four years of Harris would’ve legitimized MAGA’s ideas even further as the Democrats adopted more fascist and proto-fascist policies (hello border wall) while doing less and less to distinguish themselves from fascism, undermining the left and running the country to the ground. There was only ever ruin in the direction the DNC was headed, so what this argument really boils down to is whether you wanted four more years of proto-fascism before the real deal, and while we can argue about which one would’ve the better choice voting in Harris was still going to do exactly zilch to prevent fascism. You can’t keep voting in Von Hindenburgs and think you’ll avoid Hitler.