Donald Trump said Sunday that if no peace deal is reached with Iran in the next 48 hours, “we’re blowing up the entire country.”

The president made the threat Sunday to ABC News’ senior political correspondent Rachel Scott in response to a question regarding whether his previously stated timeline of two to three weeks for a deal was still accurate.

Concerns have been raised about targeting civilian infrastructure in Iran and the consequences that could bring.

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    When a person has the means to commit genocide, is inclined to commit genocide, and has promised to commit genocide, does that create a moral imperative to kill that person? Asking for a friend.

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    so let me get this straight. Just so I’m clear, it’s unfair when Iran blockades. But when dumpy does it to cuba, that’s perfectly fine?

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      Only the imperialists have the right to self-determination. None of the rest of us….and that includes the workers within the imperial core.

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    What the fuck is everyone over there so afraid of? Get him the hell out of that damn office already! Holy shit.

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        No. I’m not talking about violence. Soon after our topic of discussion here about removing this idiot pedophile from office, I awoke to this article discussing exactly what I mean about how to remove the son of a bitch.

        It’s a long shot, and a lengthy process and will likely not happen. But this is the only way I am talking about.

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      70million of them love it. What he’s doing doesn’t directly affect his cultists so they think it’s great.

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        Actually it does affect them, but that’s the scary part, they still continue to support him although he actively makes their lives worse. I mean the increase in gas prices literally affects almost every adult, especially in the US, a very car-centric country, where you basically can’t get anywhere without a car.

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      Have a look at all the pro trump/ anti establishment comments and tell me there is some semblance of civilised discourse with these people. Thats the problem.

      I like pepsi.

      RRREEEEEEERERRR, WHY ARE YOU SO PRO GENOCIDE!?!

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              And following up on that threat was obviously going to be horrible for the people in Gaza.

              But please continue patting yourself on your back…

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                  Trump was not ever going to try to stop it, he supports genocide and war crimes. Remember him telling Israel to “finish the job in Gaza”?

                  Republican Donald Trump has called US President Joe Biden “a very bad Palestinian” who doesn’t want to help Israel “finish the job” against Hamas in its war on Gaza.

                  “He doesn’t want to do it. He’s become like a Palestinian – but they don’t like him because he’s a very bad Palestinian, he’s a weak one,” former president Trump said in the first presidential debate with Biden on Thursday in Atlanta, Georgia.

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      He wants to be known as the man who was “strong enough” to nuke a country into oblivion.

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          Genuinely the first thing I thought when he was elected. They’re going to hand this deranged lunatic the codes and he will find any reason to use them just to prove how powerful he is.

          And I’ve also been told I was overreacting at every turn, until he did exactly what I said he would do. And then they said I was overreacting about the next thing he ended up doing. “Of course he’s going to give up the presidency if he loses the election, he’s not going to try anything weird or illegal, don’t be ridiculous!”

          Yeah, it’s been a very long, exhausting decade.

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      There is no button he has unilaterally press and never has been its an order that must be given to others who actually launch

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        Yes, but they’re also legally required to follow that order, except for certain circumstances. The question is if someone in the chain will have the moral backbone to stop said order, and it can’t just be the person launching it as there are more that can be launched. It needs to be someone high up in the chain. It may also require them physically stopping him from just asking the next person.

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        He does kind of have a ‘button’ in the form of the “football” that sends the order straight to the ICBMs silos but I’m pretty sure those are pre-aimed at Russian targets. He doesn’t push the button, an unthinking brainwashed military pawn does it. That is sent to more unthinking brainwashed military pawns who actually launch the missiles.

        Tactical nukes would have to go through more people but they’d probably just follow orders too.

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      Have you been doing any Palestine solidarity work or is gaza just a gotcha for you?

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          You clearly didn’t. I’m not American so I’m not part of your “we”. Your turn: is Gaza just a gotcha for you?

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            “You can only care about Gaza if you pass my morality test. Don’t worry no matter what you did, I’ll arbitrarily judge it as not enough.”

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              Congratulations you defeated the strawman you created.

              I asked for a minimal (do you do anything or is it just a rhetorical device?) not any kind of maximal (pass my morality test).

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                I pointed out the ludicrousness of your morality arguements. You want to talk rhetorical fallacies you’ve created a character arguement and set yourself as the only judge.

                You threw out the facts and changed the arguement to be about the commentors’ morality, as you perceive it.

                Don’t pretend to care about fallacies when your own hypocrisy is pointed out

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                  The moral argument I made is precisely this:

                  Have you been doing any Palestine solidarity work or is gaza just a gotcha for you?

                  That’s the fact, visible to anyone just a few posts up the thread. Nothing thrown away.

                  From this you assumed that I was setting up a different kind of gotcha, where I would instantly dismiss as not enough anything the other party would say. That’s your assumption, not what I said. The fallacy you accuse me of requires your assumption, does not stand on what I wrote alone. That in turn is exactly a strawman fallacy.

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        I’d argue the people who thought their smug self righteousness was more important are shit myself.

        But hey, now we all get to live in this hell right? Or not live I guess.

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            Not voting says you are happy for either candidate to win, not that you want neither to win. If you want that option, campaign for PR. What is your plan to get rid of Trump now?

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            Voting against Hitler isn’t garbage because those in opposition could have influenced Harris or used their intact democracy to work on the issue by primaring dems.

            The destruction of usaid alone will cause millions of preventable deaths including many kids. The stadium full of dead kids doesn’t care about your feelings

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                Harris isn’t responsible for how we vote that is our and only our responsibility.

                They did the beat job providing a convincing platform they knew how obviously insufficient but she like us got one vote

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                1. Organizations other than the CIA are capable of distributing food and vaccines

                So you don’t care how many poor people die as long as “US bad”. I’m glad their lives are bargain chips to you

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              Yeah but they saved gaza!

              Only they didnt. If anything their efforts have started to associate anti-genocide with a disaster like trump and practically guarantee people either switch off in disgust of their rethoric or just jump to the other side to avoid all the tankie bullshit.

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                started to associate anti-genocide with a disaster like trump

                So you’re saying your party is so pro-genocide that they can’t even convince people they meet Republican moral standards, which basically don’t exist.

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        your favorite cop

        Most of us don’t like Kamala, but we voted for her because we’re not fucking morons.

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      No? It was never on the table, considering US and Israel’s history, was it?

      But US coming face off? And even their loyal vassal states not touching the shit you get into.

      Yea, can’t hide those war crimes behind the world police and hollywood “good guys” facade anymore. Scum

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        We had a canidate that wouldn’t be committing these war crimes.

        But glad you’re happy that you can prove the US isn’t the good guy and it only cost Iranian lives

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          We had a canidate that wouldn’t be committing these war crimes.

          Jill Stein? I guess I don’t remember them saying anything supporting Israel but they were also just a known spoiler candidate so they hardly count.

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            You know international law gets fuzzy with supplying weapons and money. Which is what the US was providing Israel. Now we have the US military attacking nations directly.

            So let me be clear we wouldn’t have invaded Venezuela and we wouldn’t be invading Iran. Those are the war crimes.

            And were not even getting into the domestic issues thse days, lots of death there too.

            But yeah let’s focus on one thing and ignore all the other way worse direct involvement actions that never would have happened

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          One note Gaza Gaza Gaza. I don’t hear you fucks ever talk about all the other suffering in the world due to Trump and his regime, just Gaza.

          Almost like your arguments are all bullshit and you’re just shills for all parties who want to tear down the Western world.

          If you were eligible to vote in the US general election, and you didn’t vote for Harris in November, you helped Trump win. Simple as that.

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        He’s right! That Communist Kamala would have sided with Israel and gaza would be nothing more than a pile of rubble.

        If it wasn’t for Trump, both the Ukraine war and the Israeli war on Gaza would still be happening! Fuck think of all the dogs and the cats he’s saved in Bumfuck Nebraska from those immigrants!

        ^…checks notes…^ fuck.

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    Remember the big present and that no one knew who was leading the country but he’s talking to the right people and they gave a beautiful prize

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    Before announcing talks that aren’t happening, agreements that weren’t agreed and declaring himself the saviour and the paragon of peace

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    As a Canadian I want to know when does the world start blowing up maga let them know how it feels what it’s like

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    Imo he has been looking for any excuse to launch a nuclear bomb since he first became president. I don’t even think he cares why, how, or who he ends up using it on, even if it’s his own people. As long as he gets to use his ultimate power as president and press that big button. And as long as he isn’t personally affected he won’t even give it a second thought.

    I firmly believe he WILL nuke someone before his term is up if nobody stops him. I firmly believe people have already stopped him before.

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      Uh, interesting (and horrifying) theory. I wonder how his bootlicking allies would explain that away. Like Germany’s Merz going “we have to evaluate first whether dropping a nuclear bomb really constitutes a war crime. Maybe it was warranted and he had good reasons to do it” and then just never speak of it again and pretend everything’s fine.

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      He is the only person stupid enough to do it. I feel they’ll carpet bomb Teheran or something like that first, but since the army of Iran is decentralized it won’t do much. It would be a great excuse for the martial law in US if he drops a nuke. His insanity and the death cult around him makes him so fucking dangerous. Hegseth did a purge in the army, if they have only yes men left they will have no pushback from them.

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            Listening is a charitable way to put it. The president is the bitch of, he is being blackmailed by, would be more accurate.

            Nevertheless, even he wouldn’t nuke them right now, Israel would. What the president would do, is bomb their nuclear reactors making a dirty bomb of sorts.

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              Israel is pushing the envelope with the genocide, they have like 90 nukes, they are probably waging if they can get away with it.

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      Imo he has been looking for any excuse to launch a nuclear bomb since he first became president

      I think I’d prefer he bombed a hurricane.

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      there is no big button that trump presses, that is the myth. the suitcase being carried with him, for some strange reason called nuclear football, is basically just a sat-phone that connects him to some joint chiefs operations center. from there, there is a long chain of command leading to some soldiers in silo somewhere, who actually have the button. anyone in that chain of command can still say no and break the chain.

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          bad one, since it can give you really incorrect impression, like “trump can one day wake up and press the big red button”. which he can’t do, because there is no such button. good metaphors try to help understand the thing they describe, this one does exactly the opposite.

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      At this point I trust russia more than the US. Even a few months ago there at least was the semblance of a democratic system left, but by now its clear that the US is a dictatorship in all but name.

      The things Putin does at least make sense from an imperialistic point of view, but trump is a literal toddler throwing a different tantrum each hour.

      Both can rot in the deepest parts of hell as far as I’m concerned though.

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      I think they have done it. For me it was the loss of a us awacs plane last month, a thing that we made fun of russia for not a few years ago. The us of a is not in a good place militarily right now, with big issues with both equipment and moral that is very much underplayed.

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        Good. Hope you learned that running your mouth off over things you don’t understand isn’t a good look.

        Hey remember sending F-16s to intercept weather balloons? Imagine if Russia did that!

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      Oh yeah, fucked up Russia, with its hundreds of military bases around the world, supporting endless terrorist regimes in the Middle East, supplying nukes to Israel, like that?

      Russia isn’t even 1/10th of what you loons do every day. Fucked up Russia? What’s fucked up about it that you don’t do a hundred times worse every day?

      Please get that brainworm looked at.

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        Yeaaaa lol my personal view is that any powerful country pretty much sucks. But I do think its so funny how even most very lefty Americans still hold up China and Russia as the ultimate examples of evilness. Even when calling ourselves evil we have to do it by calling Russia and China evil in the same breath, as if to comfort ourselves that we’re not the only one. The propaganda against those countries is truly strong here, which of course is helped by the fact that they both ARE quite problematic as any super powerful entity is