• limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Looking at the reviews, ignoring the mega hats, it seems part of the app does not work from time to time

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        It’s not gone, it’s just currently not available in your country or region.

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    Anyone have a link to the app/website? I’d like to follow some among honing my horn and warning folks.

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    I love how the Streisand Effect works. They just made this app the hottest thing out there.

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      It’s closed source, and the build and publishing pipeline isn’t transparent.

      For me that makes this no different than a potential ICE honey pot

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        Haven’t followed it much (EU), can you elaborate who did what and what can be done potentially?

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          Haven’t followed it much

          Oh lord, where do I even start? It’s an entire shit show. And not the usual political shit show. A really scary one that’s truly heartbreaking. I don’t even really feel safe talking about it

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          Secret police would probably have an interest in lists of people downloading an app tracking their movements no? Particularly if it was downloaded to a mobile tracking device they carry with themselves at most times.

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              Using the app becomes obstruction or terrorism. People who do that will also get sent to camps.

              It seems far fetched but it’s really not. After all, nobody would step to stop either of those things from happening.

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          They could argue that attempting to track ICE is illegal, and all those using the app are to be arrested and tried for their crimes.

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          Maybe they’re looking for pretense for more authoritarian action on digital services/internet. We already have a bill in process that opens the door for government censorship of the internet right? They could be priming the public to be ok with them stepping in to shut apps/sites down.

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        which is exactly what this whole ‘meltdown’ frame for the pr hints at. republicans know how to use publicity stunts to get what they want.

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      No, and even worse, its only for apple devices lmao. These kids are so unserious in their activism it would be funny if it werent so sad. If shit hits the fan, this stuff will go down instantly and im sure it has no backup plan for a Tor based or p2p service. Activists in the US should start using Briar. This situation is exactly what it was made for and people have to get their tech game up fast or they will be done for. Get a shitty 80$ android phone if you only have an iphone. Install a panic trigger app that will wipe the phone if you are in trouble.

      On ICEBlocks website it says:

      Modeled after Waze but for ICE sightings, the app ensures user privacy by storing no personal data, making it impossible to trace reports back to individual users.

      Which worries me, because if its closed source then thats a worthless promise and actually makes the app a perfect candidate for a honeypot or backdoor.

      • catty@lemmy.worldBanned
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        apple is the majority of the market, no? so if e.g. a company wanted to get a product out for a client asap, apple would be the market to aim for.

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          im not a developer or a genius but I’m pretty sure you can write an app once using a framework like react native or whatever and then compile it for both android and ios and optionally release them along with the source code used to compile them

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          Turn of your capitalism brain ffs. This is not the place for companies and markets. If there is a financial interest then the app is worthless by design. iOS is not a trustable platform for anything security related so obviously you shouldnt use it for anything that concerns your physical safety. Dont forget, apple will always bend the knee to governments in the end.

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            I don’t know, don’t Apple have a reasonable track record of pushing back against governments? I personally have even less faith in the security of android based devices or Android phone manufacturers.

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              Apple have a reasonable track record of pushing back against governments

              Only when it comes to individual consumer cases like terrorists or other crimes. When it comes to large scale political movements then they are very quick to lend authoritarian governments a hand, see for example their cooperation with the CCP to suppress the Hong Kong protests.

              Forbes for the lack of a better source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2024/10/09/apple-sells-privacy-to-consumers-but-its-quietly-helping-police-use-iphones-for-surveillance/

              There’s a widespread perception that Apple has a combative relationship with law enforcement after the company refused to help the FBI hack into the iPhone of the shooter in the 2015 San Bernardino terrorist attacks. But since then, it has ramped up collaboration with police through the conference and other meetings with agencies at both Cupertino HQ and its Elk Grove campus, as well as a variety of previously unreported projects helping cops use iPhones, Macs, Apple Vision Pro and CarPlay, the emails show. Most of these projects have not been announced publicly.

              Apple declined to comment.

              People just love believing in Apple for some weird reasons.

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                I am the biggest Apple hater and they are absolutely not immune from criticism, but they are generally a more private company. The CCP has their hands deep in every corporation on the planet so none of them are immune from that influence. Apple pushed back when the government demanded they dismantle encryption (Google doesn’t even offer this) for CSAM. They were also the first to disclose the government push notification collection information.

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            You see “market” and think capitalism. By market, I meant, market-share. More users of apple products than android. So if a developer wanted greater reach…

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              Android has the greatest mobile OS market share by a massive margin.

              But Apple users are far more likely to spend money on apps, making Apple the most lucrative target for mobile developers to target first.

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                Android has the greatest mobile OS market share by a massive margin.

                It’s my understanding this is true globally, but not for the US, where Apple has ~60% share.

                (This app should absolutely be cross-platform though)

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                Not in the US, which is really the only place this app is applicable at the moment.

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    Shouldn’t be an app. It should be a site accessible using vpn and private browsing with an appropriate browser. Nobody should have to worry about the Stasi finding the app on their phone regardless of the situation.

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      While this is true, most people are not so tech savvy, maybe giving an option to mask app Icon to user choice can help it hide better.

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        going to a website (not tech savvy enough for this) vs going to the settings on an app and select a new icon (yay anyone can do it)

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      Websites don’t support push notifications in a way that normies understand. They’re also generally unreliable. And these are time-sensitive matters.

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    “He’s giving a message to criminals where our federal officers are, and he cannot do that, and we are looking at it, we are looking at him, and he better watch out,” Bondi said. “Because that is not protected speech, that is threatening the lives of our law enforcement officers throughout this country, and shame on CNN!”

    Why can’t he do that, Pammy?

    Gotta say Aaron is a bold motherfucker.

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        Does her word override the first amendment?

        There aren’t many exceptions, and what’s happening on a public street generally isn’t one of them.

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          Does her word override the first amendment?

          Doxxing federal agents and putting their lives in danger is a crime. The first amendment doesn’t give you the right to do that without repercussions.

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            Showing the current location of [what is supposed to be] a public servant in a public location acting publicly is not doxxing.

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              The purpose of the app odd to help illegal immigrants evade arrest, and to help “activists” assault and impede ICE. All illegal things.

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                The app merely informs of locations, you choosing to add all that bullshit to it is your own hangup. Citizens who don’t want to be abducted by power tripping unidentified masked men - who’ve already been south to be violent and aggressive to random people regardless of status are also avoiding those areas. That’s not illegal.

                ICE are the ones breaking the law.

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            “the First Amendment protects the right to gather information about what public officials do on public property.” Smith v. City of Cumming, 212 F. 3d 1332, 1333 (11th Cir. 2000).

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              Sure, you can gather that information. You can’t then put it out there publicly to help people break the law, and to put federal law enforcement employees lives in danger.

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                Yes, we should follow the laws like our government officials and police always do. Give me a fucking break lmao.

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                  You can choose to break the law if you want, but you can’t then cry about it if/when you get caught. This guy can make his ICE-tracking app, but he has to live with the repercussions.

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                Can you prove that people are breaking the law by the mere collection and existence of this data?

                How about those Flock ALPR cameras showing up everywhere? Can we be sure the collected data is being used in accordance with the law?

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                  They’re not just collecting it though, that’s the point - they’re publishing it on an app that is specifically made to help people evade law enforcement and to target violence at law enforcement.

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      All of a sudden, so many things are “not protected speech”. I find it tempting to be as ignorant as a Republican, but I’d certainly be caught off guard in that case.