For those who don’t know, this streamer is only tangentially related to the stop killing games petition because he made a comment about it being BS because his misinterpreted what it was supposed to do. He used his misinterpretation to spread false information about this petition leading to it not getting the support it initially should have.
When the guy behind the petition made a statement saying he didn’t think the petition was going to get enough signature in part because of the misinformation being spread about it, PirateSoftware doubled down on his false claims and all of this lead to people doing the research they should have done in the first place and deciding to support the petition after all.
What we should probably be learning from this is that we should do our own research, and find out things instead of taking the word of random people online.
A comment? Am I misreading your comment or is this just ignorance of the situation? Because PirateSoftware made a whole ass video on the subject way back (the one allegedly rife with misinformation). I remember it on my feed when the campaign was getting traction, but didn’t watch it because my view of him was souring.
From what clips I’ve seen*, PirateSoftware misinterprets the majority of what he addressed. Either maliciously or unknowingly, which is why he was blamed for tanking momentum since that video did get a ton of views (before people wised up to him being a total cunt).
*Yes I know the irony of what I just said there after reading your last paragraph. I believe these terminally online streamers because I would not put it past PirateSoftware to be this awful after watching his videos for a small period and then the subsequent controversies coming out.
Multiple videos.
He made multiple videos.
He may well have done but the only clip I have seen is the one where someone asks about it while he’s streaming games and he responded to that person with misinformation.
“Not only I’m not gonna support it, I gonna actively tell people to not support it. Because this is stupid. This is shit. Eat my ass.”
— Thor “PirateSoftware” Hall, on the Stop Killing Games proposal.
Yes. That clip.
Ah. Makes sense. I caught a stream once and he pretty much just did discussions with the chat. A lot of his videos were just cuts from his streams when someone asked.
I think a lot of people didn’t hear about this guy until about 2 days ago. Personally I didn’t even know about this petition.
I knew about the lawsuit against The Crew, but I didn’t know anything about any more general petition, so I think the greater problem was simply a lack of advertising.
Every good story needs a villain
How about let’s all not talk or make angry memes about the guy. Ross requested that he not be harassed. Something about not wanting negative energy.
Ross is not my dad
yeah but he’s a daddy tho 😘
It’s not about Ross, it’s about sending a message.
I doubt he’ll ever use Lemmy to be honest, but I get what you mean.
Since what happens on Lemmy stays on Lemmy, I guess it must be fine.
I said I get what you mean.
One of the big reasons many people are “okay” with making fun of him. Is that he could basically make it all go away if he just admitted he was wrong.
The whole thing stems from him being so full of himself that he cannot admit any fault, ever. He has been objectively proven wrong many times on several different topics, there are a lot of situations that heavily indicate misconduct, etc. And he literally went on a stream with a licensed psychiatrist who tried to explain some of his faults. To which he laughed and said “Okay, don’t see it that way, but alright”.
At the end of the day, he seems almost incapable of admitting that he ever did or said anything wrong. So people keep making fun of him, since he’s objectively proven wrong repeatedly.
If you’re not familiar with it, check out his classic wow hardcore drama. He’s absolutely incapable of admitting any fault. And he and his mods just ban anyone immediately if they try to have a discussion.
I’m not gonna go out of my way to review bomb his game or send him messages or at him on twitter. But I am not gonna stop calling him a narcisistic idiot whenever the topic comes up. People should know. That is not harassment, that is countering misinformation, at least IMO. A meme like this is not harassment in my book either. He is a public figure.
I am happy that it’s a Peripeteia developer saying this. The game is a mess (because it’s Early access) & needs a looooot if optimization, but boy it’s something else.
Gives me Ghost in the Shell vibes
Credit where credit’s due
I actually do not know who that is. Some YouTuber?
Just know he’s someone who wants you to eat his entire ass.
Trashy twitch streamer with a massive ego problem
I’ve never liked the guy, he’s always seemed so full of himself like he thinks he’s smarter than everyone and can never be wrong.
Just remember that we still need more signatures on the EU one, to rule out bot and incorrect signatures.
EU one requires an ID/passport, UK one doesn’t – I’d argue that the EU one is safe and the UK one should get more attention on the validitiy
Ross explained it in his last video - there are reasons to be skeptical and unsure if it’s truly there until at least 1.4 mil signatures. And more votes is never bad. So both need more attention. If it reaches people in the EU it will also reach those in the UK.
gotta summary? I don’t wanna watch a vid
There’s always just people that mess up on the form. But they also monitor the sign rate and saw some periods of higher than normal signing in the middle of the night in the EU - indicating someone might have ran a bot to sign with invalid information. The EU only validates the signatures once the petition is closed, so they need a safe margin where even with a significant amount of invalid signatures, they still make it. Afaik 1.2 mil is about what they would expect for a normal vote of this size to be safe, and 1.4 mil is basically more than enough to compensate for any bad actors.
The EU only validates the signatures once the petition is closed
Ah, makes sense - thanks for this
The type of verification depends on the country and some don’t have any verification at signing. I’m Swedish and when I signed I just filled out a form, no checks of any kind.
Time for the EU to adopt FrejaID
EU is actively working on the EU Wallet and certain sources tell me it is getting there.
I feel like a tourist on a safari trip with this whole saga. A colleague of mine told me about this situation and now I can’t look away.
When all is said and done, I definitely think it would be a good idea to have game libraries both physical and digital where people can play old games as they stop being profitable to developers.
I have vague memory of there already being such consumer made game libraries for old Gameboy titles back in the 2000s but those sites were taken down. It would be great to have some sort of system in place because this licensing bullshit is exactly why I ended up completely leaving streaming as a whole (for movies and shows) and went back to physical media in january/February of this year. I borrow dvds at the library now. It is fucking fantastic. I had forgotten how much I missed going looking for movies I’d like to see in places like Moby Disc and Blockbuster. It’s so comfy and when you find a movie you’ve never heard of before and you bring it home and it’s really good, it just feels so special.
I think games should have that too. I stopped playing games in 2015 because I just saw no end to having to fork out money all the time to keep up with the tech and getting new titles and gradually seeing how it was more and more an online thing instead of a physical thing so I just stopped. Didn’t like the direction games were taking. Seems like it is reaching a breaking point finally.
Libraries are so important for culture.
I’m not relaxing unil it’s 1.5 million.
In Ross’s video, iirc, he said 110% was good, 120% was pretty safe, and 140% was very safe.
200% it shall be!
I’m not proud of it but I really enjoyed the mass dunking on this guy.
Be a little proud, as a treat. You deserve it.
Who is this, and why is she so sad?
Misgendering people is not funny.
No, you don’t understand, misgendering is fine when its someone you don’t like, just like how body shaming is great when its a man.
/s
Looking at the upvote/ downvote ratio you might be right
According to 30 rock it is.
The difference is that 30 Rock is not doing it to be mean spirited.
I think the root comment is just memeing? But I see your point, it’s not funny. (Or it shouldn’t be.)
What does “just memeing” mean here?
Oh? You’re approaching me?
They memed the joke from the show, while i just copied the part from jojo.
I wanted to lure you into revealing your stand.
This dudes son.
I kinda hate the guy so it’s hard for me to keep the tone neutral but I’ll try my best.
Long story short: He’s a popular streamer that had a few controversies that caused many people labelled him as arrogant or egotistical.
The latest one is his take on the “stop killing games” initiative that he was against. He had a video a few months ago were he misrepresentated the movement and spread misinformation (whether or not this was intentional or misinformed is up for debate) and caused a significant drop in the momentum of the movement, refusing to accept any criticism and doubling down on things. That was until recently were the initiative was in the last month and a half before the big deadline at only around 50% of the required signatures, but then huge momentum sprung up with a lot of people marking him as the “villain” of the movement and because of his controversy before it wasn’t long before word spread.
This has obviously led to harassment of the guy(which I feel is too far personally) which he responded to by tripling down on his opinion causing further being labelled as the villain. Eventually the momentum carried it over the finish and people are happy that he didn’t get his way.
whether or not this was intentional or misinformed is up for debate
It’s not, in his response to the initial controversy he cut out the part of Ross’ video that directly contradicted his misrepresentation, he’s a lying piece of shit.
Absolute fucking clown. He’s just scared of open sourcing old games because everyone will see how shitty his code is…
But that’s not even what Stop Killing Games is about…
It’s one possible solution for one of the problems under the same umbrella. If you can’t or don’t want to run the servers for your online game (eg: Echo VR), just open source the server’s code and let the community keep the game running.
You don’t need to open source the code to release the server binaries.
But you could open source it and have the community figure it out themselves
Of course, but the point is that it isn’t a factor in Thor’s decision.
But even then it’s astronomically unlikely to be retroactively enforced. Old games will be grandfathered in and it would apply only to future game releases.
But even then it’s astronomically unlikely to be retroactively enforced
It’s not unlikely, it’s literally impossible.
I mean, he’s said before that shitty code doesn’t make for a good or bad game. He gave examples of lots of successful games that have “bad” code and that it doesn’t matter and people should just make games.
Not sure if it’s still the case, but the code of balatro was a single giant file with if cases for every card
Bad code can make great games. But it will also make them very hard to maintain
It can alsoake fes that perform way worse than they have anything to. See yandere simulator for example
Undertale also has really bad code and it’s a great game
That’s completely misguided, because people can see his code anyway (in his streams), and also because he will never finish or release his game
Probably little incentive to do so given how much money they’re making from Twitch, YouTube, etc.
Can’t wait for him to see this and claim it was his plan the entire time
So that’s why he worked at Blizzard for 7 years and keeps bringing it up.
Only way to get around it…
I watch this dude sometimes, he says he’s a fulltime game dev but all I see him do is play other games. The game he works on has seen very little progress.
Would be nice if he at least admits he’s a streamer and not a game dev.
“game dev” is a way to put it
Yeah but did you know he worked at Blizzard?
I’ve also noticed this from watching his stream and the more I learn about the guy the less I like him. He seems to misrepresent and oversell himself quite a bit.
Btw did he tell you about the time he worked at Blizzard, for the millionth time?
The job he got through nepotism?
He worked at Blizzard in the same way that Apple store employees work for Apple. They do, but not in the capacity that’s been implied.
Are Apple devs even contractually allowed to say that they’re Apple devs? I swear every employee from every other company won’t shut up about it on twitter but you never hear a thing from Apple people. Have I just been missing them completely?
I know a few people who used to work for Apple. The reason a lot don’t say it though is because if you do people automatically assume you had something to do with whatever feature they don’t personally like, and you get berated about it.
Sounds an awful lot like what YandereDev did when he was still relevant.
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One of the best cautionary tales for developers
No joke, YandereDev has been making more progress than Thor on Hartbound and he at least does not pretend to be experienced Blizzard game developer.
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I remember seeing gameplay of Heartbound in like 2017? maybe earlier. it’s still not finished?
No it’s not. It’s sad.
I mean isn’t it a Deltarune ripoff ?
Given that it didn’t exist yet, more like an Undertale rip off
Deltarune didn’t exist yet. It’s an undertale ripoff.
Which is very telling, tobyfox released a whole game on his own. While this " I worked at blizzard, BTW" tool hasn’t with an (allegedly) entire company around him. He’s a grifter, he scams people around him to profit off of other’s work. That’s all he does.
