Hi lemmings!
Moving into a new flat soon and will need to buy both fridge and freezer preferably in one combined unit. Been looking at the side-by-side ones. Anyways Ive got little to no knowledge about fridges and freezers and was wondering if there are any typical “gotchas” to look out for?
I am based on the EU and would prefer to buy from an EU brand too. Any recommendations or tips are plenty welcome!
Thanks as always ☺️
Not a Samsung. My wife used to be a big fan, but the last two brand new Samsung fridges broke within weeks, and their product support was terrible.
(Our current fridge is LG and we haven’t had any problems with it. There are probably other brands that are also reliable and well built).
Just be aware, LG’s linear compressors (ie. the ones that claim a 10yr warranty) are prone to failure; ours crapped out after ~3 years and was deemed uneconomical to repair.
Thankfully we have pretty strong consumer protections in Australia (and I expect similar, or better in the EU for OP); so we ended up getting a full refund from the retailer which we ended up putting towards a Hitachi model, after way too much research.
Thanks, we’re coming up on three years for this fridge, so now I know what to expect. (Also in Australia). We bought this particular fridge not because of brand, but because we’re renting and the kitchen has a stupid cutout space between cabinets and this is the only fridge that fits.
We’re likely in a similar boat, due to the size of our fridge nook. We had the LG 530L French Door Fridge Stainless Steel GF-B505PL previously, that the compressor failed in.
I’d you aren’t already, you should be pulling the fridge out every six months or so and cleaning behind it to keep the compressor free from dust bunnies.
We managed to just squeeze in a Hitachi 638L 4 Door French Door Fridge in the same space, even though it juts out by ~10cm - the added 100L capacity (and bonus unplumbed ice maker) was worth the trade-off.
unplumbed ice maker
How does that work? Do you just pour water into it or is it fancier than that?
Yeah, that’s basically it - there’s a small removable filter/container in between the two vegetable drawers that you fill up with water.
It then pumps the water into an ice tray in the freezer, and dispenses ice into a tray every few hours.
Edit - it looks like this:
I’d you aren’t already, you should be pulling the fridge out every six months or so and cleaning behind it to keep the compressor free from dust bunnies.
Thanks, appreciate that.
Something that works without WiFi.
My washing machine has wifi and an app. I bought it because I read the manual and all networking is disabled by default.
Otherwise, for all appliances, get ones with the longest warranty, unless there is a significant difference in price.
A warranty is only as good as the company offering it. I’d opt for a shorter warranty with good customer service
Look into the reviews to see if it cools evenly. I’ve seen surprisingly many fridges/freezers that have “hot spots” which is less than ideal
Hi, the main thing to look out for is that the two compartments should have separate temperature controls. As for brands, well I like Electrolux but it really depends on where in the EU you are to really get a local one.
The classic ones with the freezer on top are the most reliable but the hardest to deal with as you age as youll have to squat. they will all fail though. if your flat has room get a chest freezer and use fridge separately do that. check out technology connections on YouTube for some good general advice.
Absolutely. The short version: Chest freerzers are way more efficient because the cold air doesn’t “fall out” as soon as you open them.
Frost free freezer, it’s a pain in the arse defrosting. You do lose a tiny bit of capacity but it’s a trade off with making imo
We switched from side-by-side to a pullout drawer freezer on bottom and could not be happier. Side-by-side really limits your storage space, whereas top and bottom units allow you to store larger or unusually shaped things. And having the freezer in a drawer is clutch, way better than having it on top
I absolutely hate my side-by-side. Can’t fit a frozen pizza, the veggie drawers can barely hold a few days worth of vegetables. Had to move my water pitcher to a shelf because the door shelves are so small, but that also meant taking a shelf out of the fridge.
I’m getting the same style you have, and I’m super excited lol
Thats a very good point, thanks
Fridge ice machines always break first. Just don’t buy such a headache. Silicon ice cube trays are fine I don’t really get how the ice machine is all that much more convenient. You have to clean them too which IMO undoes the few seconds saved not filling an ice cube tray once a week. They can also jam with fused cubes, what a PITA!
You only use one ice tray a week? Either you hate cold water or you hate cold water.
Yeah staying far and wide away from those ones, thanks
Don’t get an in-door ice maker. If you have to have an ice maker, have it internal to the unit.
Check out what maintenance you need to do before you buy it, and how easy the maintenance will be given the space you’re putting the unit into. Like, if it’s a tight fit and surrounded on three sides, cleaning the coils might be problematic, etc.
Second the door fridge. We got a Samsung, which everyone will tell you is shit but my wife needs her aesthetics and perfectly matching everything. But my requirement in return was we got an ice maker internal to the freezer that we connected to a reverse osmosis filter. It’s been great for us so far for 7 years.
Now, my Samsung dishwashers (yes, plural) have been hot garbage. Even paying for top of the line shit they both needed major work or repairman ~ once a year, and obviously a replacement.
most or should i rather say all of fridge nowadays has “auto defrost” systems that lets you forget about drain pans. Initially, most would think that it is a neat design in which the heated freon pipe passes over the drainpan and evaporates the defrosted liquid/water.
unfortunately, thats a very nasty design, its like a ticking timebomb that forces you to purchase a new fridge every <10 yrs
the copper freon pipe would go on a cycle of heating up, getting exposed to water, dries up and repeates the cycle over and over. Take note that metal + water + air = rust
and these rust can cause freon leaks and makes your fridge useless, also, these fixes costs like MF(almost half the price of a bnew fridge)
I would advise DIYing a flexible tube on its drain hole and routing it on a condensate pump, I would not advise routing it to a sewer line because nasty sewer gas will get in the fridge.
My auto defrost fridge celebrated his 17th anniversary the other day
A lot of units now a days have a plastic coating on the discharge gas pipe which mostly prevents the corrosion issue. I am a refrigeration mechanic and while the condensate pan is one of the first areas I check for leaks, it also isn’t the most common area. It probably ranks in third place for frequencybof leaks on reach in units. I probably get 10x more leaks right in the evap coils. People just tend to notice the condensate pan leaks more because they’re on the high pressure side of the system so they’re going to be quick and relatively dramatic. Evap leaks can fly under the radar for years because they’re usually small and only result in gradually worsening performance.
There are also alternative condensate pan designs which use sheets of a wicking felt like material standing up in the condensate pan to increase the surface area for evaporation. That plus the warm air from the condenser fan can often work just as well as the discharge gas heated pans without the corosion issues. The reason that more companies don’t do that is because using the discharge gas for evaporating condensation also means that you’re using the condensation to precool the discharge gas so it slightly boosts the efficiency of the unit.
Size: height depth width… Can be easy to miss one dimension. Energy rating - obvious reasons Noise depending on the room it’s in Ergonomics - can you reach all the bits you need to… Imagine filling it with your weekly shop. - better energy rating=more insulation=less space. Doors can generally be reversed, but check. Some FFs have two compressor circuits, others only one. Can be important if keeping it in a garage. Do you need a water cooler/ice maker thing? More to clean, more to go wrong. YOUR FRIDGE DOES NOT NEED AN INTERNET CONNECTION Nor does it need funky windows & stuff Self defrost is a must. We spent ages discussing colour, now you can barely see it behind pictures & papers etc.
Think " is this a useful feature for me, or is it marketing fluff? "
Finally, while a fridge should be a long term purchase, is just a box that gets cold. Don’t lose sleep over it.
U forgot the most important part. Is your door big enough to fit the fridge.
And the stairway, if there is one
I’ve been bombarded for hating this show, but Jesus fucking Christ, turn it upright. Godamn
It’s worth it to pay extra for anything that doesn’t need an app or WiFi connectivity.
Those are huge red flags. Avoid anything “smart” like the plauge.
Appliances with “smart features” are simply scraping your whole home, not just your phone, for data to sell to advertisers. Very often the app or even the company won’t outlive the appliance itself, so as happens frequently, in 2 years you’ll be stuck with a perfectly workable appliance that refuses to work because some server in China went offline.
I’ve always went with the freezer compartment below, and the fridge “on top”.
It’s just so much more convenient.
Also, go with ventilated cold if you can, there is zero ice buildup and no “cold corners” (like you find out the salad just froze in the fridge because it was stuck against one of the cold walls) with that system.
Good luck!
You can get a freezer that makes sphere ice. Do what you will with that information.
Get one with as few chips and features outside of it making things cold. The dumber your fridge/freezer the less problems you’ll have.
I prefer an under fridge drawer style frezzer. I find it easier to use and less likely to have to chase a frozen whatever across the kitchen.
Stainless or white smooth finishes can work as a whiteboard for DRY ERASE markers.
