WTF is the pledge of allegiance supposed to be when it says “under god” in it? How come we can’t ban bibles and qurans from school? What are they?
Never understood how so many people just blindly stood and recited and the pledge in school. I stopped after 5th grade when I started to realize how fucked the system is
I think it’s really weird that inclusion is political.
I think you mean that it is weird that inclusion is controversial.
To me, inclusion is the foundation of politics. It is the uniting idea that people with no blood relation - strangers - can come together to build something that benefits all.
Trump and his gang want to move on from politics. They despise democracy and disdain a system that benefits anyone who isn’t part of their exclusive circle. And for the record, their circle does not include Trump supporters - the maga-hat wearing rubes are just the tools that Trump is using to monopolize wealth and power for his immediate friends and family.
When Trump has achieved what he wants, there will be no more politics in the USA. There will only be the Great Leader and those who exist to serve him.
It always seems odd to me that “politics” is often conflated with “nationalism” or just plain government. That’s not really what politics is, politics is power plays and public relations. It’s more marketing than it is governance.
Inclusion can be a part of politics, in the same way it’s part of companies advertising during pride month… but it’s not the foundation of it.
I am sorry, but you are incorrect. The word politics comes from polity, meaning a group of people who share an identity. When you say that politics is “power plays and public relations,” you are repeating propaganda that was designed to disenfranchise people. Politics is about working on a shared project: building a good society. Bad actors have infiltrated politics, but they don’t get to replace the basic meaning of the word.
Why would you consider it weird?
Conservatism is an exclusionary framework, it divides sharply ‘us’ vs ‘them’
When we say “Maybe poor people deserve medical care too”, they hear “I will have to work to pay the bills of someone I hate”
So, yes, inclusion is directly contrary to their core values, and they have learned that whenever they shout the word ‘Political!’ it gets people to back down, so they use it ALL the fucking time
Well, duh. By saying “All are Welcome Here”, we are excluding people who want to exclude people. And they are the ones in charge right now. So simply saying “everyone is welcome” is now subversive, against Presidential policy, and anti-American.
Your citizenship is hereby revoked, ICE will be here soon to ship you to
GitmoCECOTSouth SudanAlligator AuschwitzThat actually isn’t weird at all. People treat “politics” as an epithet for “controversial politics”, but in reality, almost everything in society is political – relating to power structures, the distribution of status and resources, and how those factors are determined. What you’re getting at, of course, is that Republicans have shifted the Overton window so disgustingly far to the right that “everyone is welcome” in a classroom is treated as a controversial ideology.
We’re constantly conditioned not to think of the status quo as political in nature (it’s just “normal” and the people who want to change it for better or worse are “the politicals”), but it is and always has been, and it’s why we’ve needed so desperately these past several decades to remain politically engaged to protect what we want and to change what we don’t. Now? Who knows, but we still need to try.
Great comment. Taking it further, making “politics” inherently negative has a lot of propaganda value to power. The people in charge generally want to defend the status quo, so they’d rather depoliticize the populace. This is why you get such strange contradictions as the people in charge constantly attacking “political elites” or “the swamp” or whatever. They’re trying to discredit politics itself to consolidate their power. Similarly, when they do want to change something, they say “it’s not politics; it’s common sense.” They want a population that feels like politics is something inherently dubious, or at least just not worth their time and effort.
Inclusion has always been and will always be a political project, because there are people who want power and who will use it to exclude people for whatever reason.
The part most of these stories leave out is that the signs are sold by the local democratic party. It would be interesting to see the outcome for a sign with the same message but without that baggage.
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must consider whether the displayed flag or banner illustrates or shows someone’s opinion, emotions, beliefs, or thoughts regarding politics, economics, society, faith, or religion.”
So that means nothing about Christianity then, right?
I’m pretty sure Jesus would be on board with the “everyone is welcome” message.
Actual Jesus would be in CECOT by now.
Given the demographic they are going after, I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out that a few people named Jesus got sent to CECOT already
I think they would have just murdered him again, tbh.
Although when Jesus comes back he’s supposed to be wrathful, so he’d probably kill all the Christians who use his name for hate as his first act.
He needs to hurry the fuck up and stop taking the scenic route back.
While there are zero prophecies left to be fulfilled, AND like five of them have been fulfilled in the last decade, if there is a supernatural Jesus to come back, we still have a long way to go to match the worldwide suffering seen in Revelations before Jesus’s return.
Not exactly wrathful, more like, he shows up when there’s a lot of ambient wrath going on. Mainly he just resurrects all who died in faith and sets up a judgment throne.
And he won’t kill them, just they don’t get heaven. The sheep and goats judgment. The section that “What you have done to the least of those, you have done to me” comes from there.
Honestly I think the existential suffering brought about by realizing that they have no place in heaven after a lifetime of religious lip service is FAR more poignant than any death could be
Not that most lemmings think this is anything more than a long repeated fairy tale, granted
Pretty sure if Jesus came back today conservative evagenlicals would send him to a concentration camp
Time for the sartre quote again.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
The assholes know what they are doing. They know they are hypocritical. They don’t care. You cannot engage in conservatives/anti-semites/fascists/et al with reason because they will not argue in good faith. They are bad people. Selfish, fearful, people.
No no no. You can’t curtail HIS free speech!
And no USian flag either
No pledges of allegiance in the morning then.
“not like that”
No. Bible in every backpack, forced morning prayer and flag salute is the law now. rules for thee but not for me
Seems to me like flags are usually political and/or ideological in nature… That’s, like, one of the main reasons we use flags at all. The US flag is political, the Idaho flag is political, banners that say “Merry Christmas” are gonna have to be left out of schools, even “Happy Birthday” is going to read like religious favoritism to someone like a Jehovah’s Witness. Especially if the Christofascist snowflakes can’t even be bothered to put up with “Everybody is welcome here”. Why would anyone else feel inclined to put up with their shit?
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a piece of cloth, varying in size, shape, color, and design, usually attached at one edge to a staff or cord, and used as the symbol of a nation, state, or organization, as a means of signaling, etc.; ensign; standard; banner; pennant.Simple - they’re not going to enforce this when it comes to Christianity or nationalism.
Time to fly high the flag of the proud Island of Lesbos.
Remember when schools were having a War On Christmas and removing all signs on Christianity and Christmas displays? So much that South Park made strawmen of the schools to make fun of. Pure projection.
Good! If Jesus were RESURRECTED Today we would NOT want Him seeing such FILTH as “Everyone Is Welcome Here”!
Jesus was a Palestinian Jew. If He were present among us today, ICE would disappear Him to El Salvador (which is kind of ironic…)
A Palestinian Jew advocating socialism. They’d kill him on the spot.
I think you meant to say that the IDF would shoot him as he tried to get aid.
It depends on where He spawned
He wasn’t arguably lucky the first time. Spawning in Palestine the second time is a CJ meme at this point.
Well I’ve definitely felt unwelcome in the States. Good to see they’re being honest about it at least.
My list of reasons to never visit Idaho just keeps getting longer and longer.
It’s a shame because it’s such a beautiful place but it’s been full of Neo Nazis for decades.
I’ve visited there exactly once, and you’re right - it was crazy. I never went back and never plan to go back unless this backward state comes to it’s senses.
Okay hear me out, the small college town of Moscow is actually a decent place (for at least a bit longer). Yeah I know "but what about the quadruple homicide"you ask but ignore that it was an outlier… It’s really a small very quiet town with lots of good people, hippies, socialists, the lesbian owned comic/game/costume/sex shop, hills that make it look like Hobbiton, and sunsets so beautiful that the one time I was in Hawaii and people were floored by the sunsets I was like “meh, I’ve got better at home”. It wants so badly to be part of Washington but suffers from being in Idaho. Everywhere else in Idaho is varying degrees of batshit lunacy
The world needs more comic/game/costume/sex shops…
no need to go, unless you’re a potato truck driver
Even then, you’ve got options.
idaho rly just said not everyone is welcomed here
Very Jesusy.
Obligatory: so… not everyone is welcome there. Roger that
When are we giving France their statue back?
seems overdue at this point, especially with the extremely hateful poem on it /s
Idaho is a fucking backwards social dump. The poor think they are rich because the land is a beautiful place and you get a lot of state and federal land that’s available to anyone who wants to use it
but living 20 miles from the boarder most of my life had shown me how much of a social shit hole it is
Like driving there with Washington plates will single you out. Like parking and people in the parking lots will be rude to you for the audacity for wanting to visit their spaces and yet a huge population of theirs works in Washington State. So at rush hour, in the morning you see lots of Idaho plates going west and then in the evening they go east.
its not like we havn’t know for ages that its a backwards place, but its nice to see the rest of the world coming to understand it
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Meanwhile areas of North Idaho want to be part of Washington, going back since before Idaho was even officially a state. I still think ideologically a small bit each of east Washington, northeast Oregon, and north Idaho splitting out to be a new state makes sense. But who in the world would ever want to straight join Idaho in it’s current state…
How does the “all lives matter” crowd feel about this?
Kind of telling on themselves here, right? If “everyone is welcome” is an “ideology”, kinda indicates the person labeling as such is against it. I say this because the societal norms on paper for every major philosophy or ideology would be in favor of that idea, and if it strikes you as staking a claim to something new, it probably took some mental effort to get to that conclusion. Would “be kind” be ideology? Technically yes I guess it is, but I doubt these people would be pissed about it and call it out like this. Are they asking for those cat posters saying “hang in there” to be taken down? That’s preaching the “ideology” of persistence.
They don’t want ‘everyone’ … they just want ‘white christian people of european descent’
When you are a brown person, the messaging from these asshats is always the same racist bullshit we’ve heard for hundreds of years
I’m talking about what they preach, not what they practice.
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The Italians, and to a lesser extent the Irish, are mostly Catholic, which doesn’t really count a Christian, and therefore they don’t actually count as white.
They just called out “everyone is welcome here” and you think they WOULDN’T take issue with “be kind”?
I think that one they wouldn’t admit to because it pre-dates the reading of anything about equality as referring to their out-groups.
This is the tshirt I’m wearing today. Fuck Idaho.
They’ll probably try to claim that blood comes from the heart, and so those hands represent jesus hznds with stakes through them, and everyone loves jesus.
You know. Mental gymnastics. Just anything to reaffirm their own world view since you are challenging it.
they’re already foolish enough without you having to strawman them…
Whether you’re black, white, or…an android?
when I was in early years of school there were twins with no pigment that were pale as chalk and had hair like fiber optic strands. sunscreen needed indoors to not turn red. never seen either since but I found out its possible to be literally white.
Data from Star Trek’s rights are being acknowledged
Measure of a Man.
Fine. “Everyone except Evangelical Christians are welcome here.”
I’d phrase it differently. “Bigots not welcome, Everyone else has a home here.”
