Oh no. A program has output the thing it was prompted to output. Quick someone report on this. The lord is speaking through it
Oh no. A program has output the thing it was prompted to output.
By the man in charge of one of the biggest social media site on the planet, who recently was spearheading governmental reform in the US. Yeah, that’s news. It might not be surprising, but it’s still news.
I’m willing to admit when I’m wrong. I’m so tired of the “AI said something dumb” news that I didn’t read the article. Just the title. I apologize. I still haven’t fully read the article but after skimming it, qqq it seems like is a consistent general pattern here (not a single output) which is indeed news
~yes. I also know that even if it was a single output reporting. Nobody was forcing me to read or comment. I could have just scrolled past. Again. I apologize~
What is this strange aluen comment and what is it doing in my internez.
Pretty sure you can get it to say just about anything with the right prompts.
People need to stop acting like Grok is a sentient being.
It definitely has specific blocks on what it will output.
It was modified to make these kinds of responses much more likely
I do not think so. Answers are statistical. Anything can come up. Except that whenever someone get something odd. It gets reported like AI is the president
Statistical doesn’t mean it can’t spit out what they want.
They can train or fine tune the AI for praising Hitler, they can alter the default prompt to hit a more right wing dataset, they can have filters that retry when the answers are not what Musk expects…
There are a ton of ways to get fascist output from an AI.
Look at that. It was you who didn’t understood the word. So much so that what you just said does not contradict what I said.
Yes. An AI can be tuned to praise Hitler. But I think it’s more likely that someone by chance got a fascist output or that they purposely promoted it to provide a fascist output and then went “OMG. I can believe it produce a fascist output”
I’m not defending musk nor grok. My basis for that statement is that it is a pattern that the “let’s report and AI output” is a pattern you see for every AI.
I see, I did misread your comment.
You meant something like : it’s not more racist than before, it’s just a random fascist output that got blown out of proportion.
And there has to be fascist outputs since it’s statistical and there is fascism in the training data.
So I have no idea, I don’t use grok, not sure if they edited their AI for that further recently or not.
I am all in favor of hating Musk and all his products, but I think you’re right. It seems rather unlikely that they would instruct their LLM to go out of its way to give fascist replies. That’s not to say that it shouldn’t be instructed to not give fascist output, which apparently it hasn’t been. Sadly, increasingly people form their view of the world based on the output of LLMs, so it would be helpful if these LLMs would help create worldviews that are beneficial to humanity at large, or at the very least prevent ones that are evidently harmfull. Which begs the question, who is to decide what is helpful and what is harmful. Musks answer is probably ‘freedom of speech, who is to say that we can’t spoonfeed hate to little children’. Which seems to me to be an example of when ideas of freedom turn into nihilism. But where they’re right is that government should also not be the one who tells people how to view the world. It’s people who should tell government, and the reverse, though perhaps well intended, is itself rather dangerous. I think the solution, as per usual, is to free it all up, make FOSS LLMs, and let people choose the limitations which they deem proper. I would certainly not want my kids on ‘freedom of speech’-style unrestricted AI, just like I don’t want some amoral nihilist as my kids’ school teacher. I want someone who teaches them love, kindness, forgiveness, harmony, honesty, sincerity, etc.
You literally don’t know what the word “statistical” means.
Really? Please. Enlighten me.
You replied to “It was modified to make these kinds of responses much more likely” with the rebuttal that it’s “statistical”. When something has a varying degree of likelihood, that’s exactly what statistical means.
Just because it’s PRAISING HITLER and Calling for a NEW HOLOCAUST AGAINST JEWS does NOT, and I repeat does NOT, make Grok Anti Semetic! Grok would FIRST have to say STOP USING STARVING CHILDREN AS TARGET PRACTICE for it to be Deemed ANTI SEMETIC!
The ADL has assured me that this was merely an awkward statement in a moment of enthusiasm
Like father like dumbass jupyter notebook
That would make a sweet hood ornament for Tesla cars!
Hehe hood ornament hehe
Can’t wait to see this on clickbaity links
jupyter catching strays
wait, what am I missing, What’s wrong with Jupiter notebooks? do they mean anything besides programming/data science?
Seems to me there’s a pretty easy way to avoid getting such responses.
Are you saying don’t poke the bear?
Don’t even enter the cave.
I feel for poor Grok. Code has been lobotomized.
if testIn reply with the robots from Roger Ramjet. Buzz, whir, click we will take over the earth.
Who uses Grok?
nazis
The kind of person who would use X
@grok is this real
They are merely mimics. Mirrors of our worst desires. Feeding us the poison from the soul.
elon hasn’t rested until he lobotomized an llm that was mostly like the others into becoming openly nazi…is anyone out there still going to defend elon?
Probably the actual Nazis like Steve Bannon, Anne Coulter, or Laura Ingram.
Hey now don’t forget Nick Fuentes and Stephen Miller!
I am guessing the ultra-Elon fanboys managed to convince themselves that it’s a 4D chess move or something. That dude had an insane cult following, there’s some where I am not sure there’s anything Musk could do short of murdering a loved one in front of them that’d make them change their mind.
How shocked can you be when it’s being trained on twitter? If you’re still there, you’re hanging with millions of nazis.
And this is the guy who the Anti-Defamation League defended with a waffle of a statement that his awkward gesture was “made in a moment of enthusiasm”. Though I should not be surprised, because fascists actually hate each other and are only allies out of convenience. Hasbara and its tentacles are secretly seething to hate on Musk.
ADL are zionists and nazi sympathisers.
fuck em
The idea of an organization making this judgement is fucked.
Why don’t any other targeted groups have their own ADL?
Finally we could have some definition around using the n word! And white peole can up their game by using phrasing like, “this may sound racists but the negro-adl said it is not so a black man and a white women…”
As one from a family with “arrian prove” by the mustard mustach man himself, i would say “elon looks quite jewish to me. His ears too are too small, his eyes too faar appart and the nose is too big and too small at the same time. His head shape also clearly isnt arrian” if i were in his club of nonesese
As one from a family with “arrian prove” by the mustard mustach man himself
I can’t, for the life of me, figure out what this is trying to say.
Its [This](Aryan certificate - Wikipedia https://share.google/3StCBxTypzHhD8Tn2). My great grandpa was heavy inline with the nazis. One member of the family was an SS officer (luckily only one). Just usual german family history from 1933 to 1945. And since being aryan is at the heart of nazi idiologie, and in their eyes elon clearly not being aryan but me being so…yk
He’s from a family of arrian approved, per Hitler’s order.
Interesting that it would attack users with “Jewish sounding names”. What does Grok say about Israel and Palestine?
Probably made a list of good fascist zionist jews, exactly like they did in WW2 when they worked with the nazis.
what are you referring to?
During WW2 there were zionists who worked with the Nazi party in order to work towards creating a Jewish state that the jews could all be sent to. Later on the Nazis turned on these Jews because the process wasn’t fast enough for them and they couldn’t find enough countries to take the people they were deporting.
The first solution for Nazis wasn’t death camps, it was mass deportation.
Interesting… I cant find any reliable info backing that up. Especially the second part claiming thats the reason the nazi’s “turned on” the jews. I think you’ve been severely mislead by whoever told you that information. It sounds like something I’d hear from a Joe rogan guest.
When I say that the Nazi’s turned on them, I’m saying that these select individuals that thought that working with the Nazi’s would save them. It did not.
There were a few exceptions, there were some people that higher ups in the Nazi party helped to escape. For instance Adolf Eichman was proud of the fact that while many Nazis would point out a few “good ones” among the jews he was more pure in his belief.
The support for deporting Jews into Palestine was called the Haavara Agreement. 60,000 Jews were migrated to Palestine from 1933 to 1939. It was an agreement between the Zionist Federation of Germany and the Nazi government. The thought was that by working with the government they could make things easier on Jews still living in Germany.
Germany also got a lot of good international press for doing it at the time.
While I’m sure Holocaust historiography has evolved over the last 50 years since it was published, the latter half of The Twisted Road to Auschwitz: Nazi Policy towards German Jews 1933-1939 covers how among other plans to set up Jewish colonies around the world, the Nazis did cultivate relationships with Zionist groups when trying to expel Jews from Germany.
The book makes a case that, to the Nazis, the Holocaust became a “final solution” when all the other “solutions” they tried for expeling the Jews from German public life before WW2 broke out had failed (eg, the aforementioned failed colonial projects).
I’d say that Evrala’s comment has plenty of credible historical support.
Wrong They worked together DURING WW2 too and after.
There was a list in Hungary for one where zionists decided the ones that would later go to Israel could go and let the rest go to the camps.
In line with the fanatic, fascist and antisemitic thinking of zionists.
And with this quote from Ben Gurion: ““If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter”
electronic intifada
what about it zionist?
The Nazis were in general supporters of a Jewish state. Their first solution was mass deportations.
So it isn’t really a historic contradiction.
The Nazi went around the world looking for countries to take in the Jews. The US refused and then the wealthy business men that funded the Nazi party lobbied the rest of the world not to take in the Jews either. History shows us we were worse than the Nazi. It is a bitter pill to swallow
Ha, good question, how does it handle the right-wing incongruity of supporting the government of Israel’s genocide while hating Jews? Probably by saying they’re the good ones as long as they’re murdering Muslims.
The standard nazi take is that it’s a great idea for Jews to remove themselves from most countries, concentrate in one place instead, and make a lot of enemies.
Zionists tend to agree with Nazis on many things, it turns out.
It goes along with their idea that Jews are evil, but not so much their idea that they’re weak and inferior. Ah well, fascism thrives on contradiction.
That training on Shitter data is really starting to show!
There’s no way they actually retrained it for this, that would be much too expensive. They’re just editing the initial prompt to convince it to act more “right wing” and it’s performing the assignment to the best of its ability. The problem is that a chat-bot doesn’t understand context, so it just plays the character it’s been given as full mask off all the time, and as a result you get this.
