The bill would have permitted 16- and 17-year-olds to work overnight on school days and work longer than an eight-hour day before a school day. Some 14- and 15-year-olds would also have been allowed to work those hours.
This is a horrifying concept and a great way to keep kids uneducated so they keep voting for lying repubs when they get older.
Governor Ron DeSantis said during a panel discussion in March: “Why do we say we need to import foreigners, even import them illegally, when, you know, teenagers used to work at these resorts, college students should be able to do this stuff? … What’s wrong with expecting our young people to be working part-time now? I mean, that’s how it used to be when I was growing up.”
They also used to work in factories where they’d get maimed and other high-risk environments. Shall we bring that back too, Governor Dipshit Fascist? Seriously, get fucked.
They are framing it like plucky shirtless college boys might wanna go pick cucumbers for a weekend to make a few bucks for rootbeer floats down at the soda-fountain.
One of the things that infuriates me about our species broadly is how terrible people are at visualizing actual, real systems and their scope and scale.
If you don’t know anything about the factory-farming our society requires to survive, you should probably take a short tour of the massive machine we’ve built and depend on so you understand the scale of the problem and why even the immigrants we have/had now aren’t even enough to keep the system running. This is why aging populations are a huge problem, this is a foundational cornerstone of our whole civilization, much like medicine and vaccines, and it’s being waved off like something we can just swap out demographics for funsies and to give bro’s trying to afford their new baseball mitts and textbooks, all good, right??
I mean, they could work a summer picking produce and have enough money to buy a house, at least that’s what the old man down the street told me. And he owns a house, so I bet he would know.
Not surprising. They didn’t plan ahead whatsoever and thought “it’ll all work out” as if Conservative promises held more weight than the hot air required to speak them.
Well, the reason it didn’t work out now is obviously the Democrats somehow.
Paw… I think I got the black lung
…what about DeSantis Dachau?..plenty of labour there…
I’m sure it’s only a matter of time.
Great, a short joke targeting children!
They are children!/s
On the same day this came out, University of Florida scientists announced a possible new treatment for cancer - not a type of cancer, ALL cancers. It works by stimulating the immune system to kill the tumor, and it’s based on a treatment for glioblastoma that had highly successful human trials last year. Hard to believe these same two developments both came out of the nutbin of Florida.
That happens like all the time, but they never work (yet!). Cancer is so agressive, dividing so fast, and thus adapting through mutations that nothing really works fully.
But maybe it will kill some of them, and let’s not stop trying! Fuck cancer.
It’s MRNA based, if I recall.
This makes it, essentially, endlessly flexible. We can now take a sample, sequence it, find the mutations, simulate what the protein looks like when folded, generate* the correct complimentary protein for that target and write the actual amino acid sequence directly into MRNA and give it to the patient.
This is currently incredibly expensive because it’s being done manually by labs full of PhDs. But every part of this process is being rapidly improved and made cheaper.
MRNA based medicines have amazing promise. For example they had the COVID vaccine designed less than 12 hours after sequencing it.
*using a diffusion model, like AI image generators but they produce amino acid sequences that generate arbitrarily shaped proteins
mRNA based stuff is indeed incredible, no more randomly just trying things out, it’s really the future IMO.
But for cancer it will just be a tool in the toolbox , I mean you gotta get those samples and cancer change maybe a thousand times a minute, which strain is the “bad” one? Etc. etc. etc.
One theoretical way to stop cancer altogether would be to remove the possibility for telomere lengthening (remove the production of telomerase) and “manually” allow the growth of only stem cell from time to time.
But that’s a long time from now if ever it can be done.
Oh yeah, cancer is incredibility complex. I’m not remotely qualified to predict how this will be used.
I’m on the tech side of things and the ability to read and write arbitrary amino acid sequences along with machine learning models trained to predict (ex: AlphaFold) and generate (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-45051-2) protein structures is absolutely mindblowing.
It’s like we’ve been working on computers by striking flint at their CPU and listening to the traces vibrate in order to interpret the output and now someone has figured out how to plug in a keyboard and monitor.
We’re barely scratching the surface with these techniques and we’ve found multiple ways to make an AIDS vaccine and we’re discovering new ways to beat cancer. The rapid development of the COVID vaccine, thanks to mRNA, likely saved millions or tens of millions of people and prevented a global depression.
It’s such an incredible time for human advancement, it’s a shame we’re all drowning in social media fueled toxicity and people don’t see it.
Yeah totally agree!
I sometimes feel like I learned a lifetime of things, just to get it all thrown under the bus in the last 5-10 years, biological science is advancing so fast right now it’s mind blowing.
mRNA also might treat allergies and take on parts of the deadliest disease too, aging.
Interesting times!
You got me for a second there.
I thought you would make a “the onion” joke of florida plan’s to send cancer patient to work the fields as a “treatment” for cancer.
I’m surprised (and kinda of relieved?) that your comment is actually about a new scientific discovery.
Oh yeah it’s very exciting. In 2024 a vaccine that targeted glioblastoma, an especially nasty brain cancer with an almost zero survival rate. The vaccine mimics certain aspects of tumor cells, triggering a fast, vigorous immune response that attacks the actual tumor. Encouraged by the results, they’ve somehow generalized the vaccine over the past year to stimulate an immune response to cancer cells in general. Immunological therapy is totally different from chemo or radiation, and a generalized approach is vastly different from what the whole field has been doing for decades. Very promising.
1, 2, 3, 98 99 100 here I go!
Hey, found you! And yes, I can time and space travel to this comment out of this one https://lemmy.world/comment/18397250
That is nothing new. Immunotherapies have been around for at least 10 years.
Republican state Senator Jay Collins, the bill’s sponsor, said the measure was about parental rights: “We should let them say what’s best for their kids at 16- to 17-year-olds, that’s what we’re saying by this.”
Anyone who puts forth a measure aimed at “parental rights”, it’s always something that’s aimed at parents’ right to treat their children like property
Funny how you never hear them say “parental responsibilities.”
It would also have scrapped required 30-minute meal breaks
It’s a parent’s right to make sure their child works an 8 hour shift with no breaks! Breaks are socialism!
They’ve already scrapped mandatory water breaks for outside workers :(
So let’s make the jobs nobody wants to do even worse while we deport the few remaining people willing to do them.
Then try and get notoriously hard working and focused teenagers to do it.
statesparents rights!Why is it always about slavery?
Like how is the female property to keep the children in line if the children aren’t also property?
Every one of these is always “Parent’s Rights Act” and the text is like “murdering your gay/trans 10-year-old is now totally legal”.
“My kids are in need of a proper traditional upbringing, which means locking them in a box and tenderizing them like veal, until they’re old enough to be sold at auction.”
"You should be able to give your child a job at a slave wage in awful conditions. That’s a parental decision.
“What if I want to give my child the opportunity to explore their gender identity? Thats a parental decision too.”
“Off to the gulag with you all.”
Oh, who could have foreseen that…
The kids want more “thumb time.”
This bill is completely disgusting and exploitative. We’re talking about Florida, though, so I expected it to pass.
I want to shove bamboo under the fingernails of that asshole who was likening it to a “part time job”.
The teenage babysitters I know demand a higher hourly rate than Target workers in my locale (at about $18/hr). I don’t think the farmers are ready to pay that for young people who are not work hardened and can’t keep their phones out of their hands for longer than 5 minutes. It is not like they will starve if they don’t pick enough. After all, their parents will be there, helicoptering, handing them bottles of lifewater and snacks and uploading pics and vids on their phones on their social media accounts.
Children should grow up and use their energy for learning, so that they aren’t doomed to become slaves for the prison industry in a future where people without solid education are not able to do more than work in the fields or clean offices.
But i know, y’all don’t need that, because all the stuff that made america great in the 50’s and 60’s was invented by farm workers and office cleaners… or might it be that all that made america great came from the minds of the top educated of their fields, you know, scientists - you will need new ones in the future, since the ones living right now are fleeing the US as fast as possible to escape the braindead fascism that has taken hold of the country.
You should start begging your children to stay in school, your future depends on it.
Why don’t you go work in the field? We need all the top shots out there, get on it buddy.
Congratulations. This is the most Boomer-ass comment I have ever read on Lemmy.
Signed,
A 40-Year Old Millenial.
Article published on May 6th. Updated on July 11th. Posted on July 20th. Really had to dig for this one didn’t you?
What is this comment supposed to mean?
I’m both criticizing him for posting old shit and the people in the thread for not understanding that because they probably didn’t bother click on it and just responded to the title.
So what has changed? What’s outdated here?
(jfc why do i waste my time…)
Changed? Outdated? I don’t understand your question.
But please don’t waste your precious time.
this is !nottheonion, not !news, so who cares the fuck about a few weeks. and noone had to dig for this because the internet is NOT structured like the trashheap next to your computer.
Actually surprising that the Republicans didn’t just push it through as they have a majority, but one can be happy about every news like that
I mean, that’s how it used to be when I was growing up.
The fact that “how it used to be” in your childhood produced a scumbag like you is a compelling argument to not let people’s childhoods be like that anymore.
“I was beaten as a child and I ended up fine” says man who beats children.
I mean, that’s how it used to be when I was growing up.
Also, this is complete and utter bullshit. I’m older than Ron boy, and child labor laws predate me. The folks picking crops in the fields in the 80’s and 90’s were the same immigrants that are (or were, I guess) doing it today. And anyone who attended Yale almost certainly wasn’t out picking crops as a kid. Like most members of the GOP, he has zero attachment to reality.
Newsweek states on their own website that this article is unfairly leaning left. What a strange editorial decision.
It’s an unfortunately looking vote gauge (it’s like a poll where readers decide whether it does lean on either side or not), not their opinion about the article.
Its a design decision that is bafflingly stupid. People will use this as evidence of bias.
That’s how Newsweek works now.
