I don’t know if I’m going crazy but looking at the current situation in the world … please tell me that I’m overexagurating
Hope so, it’s long past time for a reboot.
the rich will survive, the poor will die
I’m disabled and well below the poverty line, I’m fully aware where I would end up in a class war.
You are already living in a class war. You are below the poverty line because of it.
It’s reminiscent of the cold war.
You never really know, it’s plausible. But I doubt it. It doesn’t seem any more likely now than it did in 2016.
Ceasefire in Gaza for a minimum of 6 weeks (if I understood the news correctly) is huge. That conflict might be close to over if we’re lucky.
Could already be going. We didn’t name them World War 1 and World War 2 until after they were over
Is already going for the last 10 years.
Yeah, I’d tend to agree. The war is digital and economic. Countries are hacking each other’s infrastructure and commercial systems, mass propaganda and spying with troll farms, tiktok and even hardware. Plenty of fighting with sanctions, tariffs, bans of sales of technology.
Fighting for land right now is really unnecessary, however depending on how well humanity survives climate change I’d expect to see some arguments going in to drilling and mining places like Greenland, the arctic and antarctic. China is already setting up shop in Antarctica.
We are also all tied together economically in so many different ways that a war between major powers would be economically devastating for everyone before the first shot is fired, particularly for the countries that ceded most of their production to other countries that might be hostile in war.
Please seek therapy or counseling. If your concern that a war is on the horizon is affecting you this much then we aren’t qualified to help.
He didn’t mention any effects this is having on him. Please seek a lower school teacher and ask for help learning to read.
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No.
Russia (the current primary aggressor) is on the brink of a banking system collapse. It doesn’t have the money to wage war on a bigger scale than it already is.
China is far more interested in trade than hostilities.
The middle east has been a tinder box for over a hundred years. I don’t see it dragging outsiders into it and hopefully we have a respite coming.
Central Asia has tension between India and Pakistan, but that’s nothing new. India could piss off China or the reverse, and if that kicked off the loss of life could be on a scale that would be unprecedented but still I think it wouldn’t drag the west in.
Russia (the current primary aggressor)
Lol, Americans are fish who don’t know they live in water.
The US has joined the party
Sorry if i misinterpreted your comment but saying that the middle east has been a tinder box for century feel like it alluding that other regions like Europe has less conflicts and is less prone to violence
The European states closest to go to war is maybe Turkey and Greece, but that’s highly improbable
Europe has certainly had its violent ages. Since WW2 its built good relationships between the countries. I do not forsee any conflict except for Russia.
you sweet summer child
It feels like youre avoiding mentioning the most warmonger country in history 😅
I highly doubt that WWIII will happen (within the next few years), however I forsee the next several years to not be peacful. There will be several (regional/civil) despites that will most likley occur and the chances of any of them escalating is highly unlikley. Here are the conflicts I forsee:
- Continued Syrian Civil War: wont be pretty but escalation is unlikely
- Palestinian occupation: Will absolutely continue to be horrific but none of the neighboring Arab counties care enough to escalate (or risk US aid)
- Russia/Ukraine war: Russia will get some territory and thats about it, probrally just the Russian majority areas. After that the EU will intimidate Russia to back off.
- India/China border dispute: They’ll make a lot of noise, actural fighting is unlikely
- US/Canada/Mexico/Greenland conflict: Who knows tbh, most likley Trump is running off his mouth as always
- China/Taiwan: I severly doubt it, in addition the US is moving microchip manufacturing to the US so strategic value may loosen
Worst case scenario here is a full blown war between the EU and Russia, the US likley wont get involved (Trump doesnt care about Europe) and neither will China (both counties might send aid respectively). It would probrally end with Russia surrendering followed by them loosing no land and maybe a regime change plus some political reforms.
Russia/Ukraine war: Russia will get some territory and thats about it, probrally just the Russian majority areas. After that the EU will intimidate Russia to back off.
How do you imagine the EU will do that exactly? The EU has no military industrial capacity to speak of, it doesn’t have access to cheap energy, and it’s becoming politically unstable. A far more likely scenario here is that the EU starts breaking up, and nationalist parties start realigning their countries towards Russia because the US will leave EU to hang.
I would imagine that if Russian agression continues than nationalist parties would loose steam
It’s a highly unlikely scenario that Russia would want to expand the war pat Ukraine, and everybody with a functioning brain understands that. What will happen is that Russia will take over all the territory in Ukraine that’s either pro Russian or neutral.
The rest will be left as a problem for the west to deal with. It’s going to be a dysfunctional rump state that’s not economically self sufficient, and where there will be massive resentment towards the west over the betrayal. If Europe allows it to fall then they will be faced with a massive refugee crisis, and if they don’t then it’s an economic black hole that they have to keep pouring money into. Either scenario will only make the already desperate economic situation in Europe even worse than it is now.
It’s going to be easy for Russia to make deals with individual countries as public unrest in Europe continues to grow. Hungary and Slovakia have already flipped to Russia, it’s likely only a matter of time before Romania, Czech Republic, Germany, and France do as well. At that point we’re looking at the end of EU, and possibly the end of NATO as well. Especially given that the US will almost certainly be pulling back now as well.
Russia/Ukraine war: Russia will get some territory and thats about it, probrally just the Russian majority areas. After that the EU will intimidate Russia to back off.
This is one may cool down. Definitely would not have under Harris. This is the big ww3 fear.
India/China border dispute: They’ll make a lot of noise, actural fighting is unlikely
They have resolved their territorial dispute, or at least made a major agreement that mostly resolves it.
I think that the true world war 3 will not be nations against nations, but citizens against their own nations. The stage is set for an actual paradigm shift or system annihilation. We will not support civilization if it doesn’t change, either the people destroy the pyramid or the pyramid will destroy the world.
I kinda doubt that will happen. For instance, look at Venezuela: Venezuelans are beyond fed up with Maduro’s dictatorship, but there’s nothing they can do against the government forces.
Governments will do anything they can to prevent a paradigm change.
You must mean venezuelans living in the US. Maduro won elections in Venezuela.
Yeah, the rigged ones lol. There’s even mathematical evidence of it being rigged, with votes accounting for exact percentages with just 2 decimal places, for every single candidate.
Venezuela hasn’t publish the official acts, nor let international observers be present in the elections. There was heavy repression on elections day as well, plus some offices not letting people vote.
Is it really a dictatorship?
Absolutely, yes.
Wasn’t their current president a bus driver who rose up through politics? I had seen a mention of that in some online discussion.
Also, that the USAmerican govt has issues with Venezuela nationalising their oil and acting as a competitor to the petro-dolla system
So would they just be a adversary country, which may likely be conservative, rather than a dictatorial one?
Bus drivers can be dictators as well. It’s less about the person and more about the political situation. In Venezuelas case oppression of the opposition and unfair elections
Well they elected a president the West doesn’t like, so yes.
What revolution really takes is soldier’s that are protecting the system being unwilling to kill when the “rebels” are their family and friends.
If soldiers have love for the people and see common cause more than they fear their leaders then the leader can fall.
Westerners sure do seem to think they know the feelings of citizens of other countries better than those citizens themselves.
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It is the poorer population that suffers the most. That’s the reason Venezuela has such a big emigration crisis, and every latinamerican country has also seen such a massive influx of poor emigrants. I experience this firsthand, almost daily.
It is not rich people that the militia constantly murders/kidnap.
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It is not my intention to be rude. I’m from Colombia, follow Venezuela’s status closely (from media on a broad range of the political spectrum) see Venezuelan emmigrants daily and have met quite a few Venezuelans, and yet Lemmy is the only place I’ve ever seen with people really convinced that Venezuelans love Maduro, and the current situation of the country is because of the sanctions.
It feels almost surreal, and reminds me when some people on Reddit were convinced they knew better than me what’s my country’s political status, all while mistakenly calling the country “Columbia”.
I’m not trying to argue that you should blindly trust my opinions here, but really, really, Venezuela is in a bad spot, nobody likes Maduro’s dictatorship, and the sanctions are not the main causes of any of that (but they do help). Either that or somehow almost everybody in whole Latin American has a very biased opinion from first-hand experiences, and only people from other continents can see that.
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You missed the entire point of the comment by incorrectly calling my country “Columbia”. I don’t even know what to say.
Let’s not waste any of our time and go ask in any Venezuelan forum about the topic.
Nice dodging of all points in the previous post!
Just a thought but in democracies people don’t tend to emigrate when the “other side” wins the election.
Paint me a picture of what you think that looks like. Here’s my painting: Everybody marches on their capitals, everyone gets gunned down with 30mm cannonfire, the Americans are gunned down holding pistols and rifles everyone else is gunned down holding pitchforks and torches.
who’s doing the gunning? we dont have that many combat robots yet, and i still have hope that communication is open enough and most people aren’t too brainwashed to realize firing on your own countrypeople is bad.
but we better do sonething before these change.
No but there will be wars.
Thankfully nukes exist = (war on a big enough scale = mutual destruction (the people in power want to keep their position))
I would say world war is still years away, but if SK in your name means slovakia then comfort yourself that you might find yourself in the early BRICS block vs US empire wars, so hopefully it’ll be over without too much war in your country soon.
No one in Europe would be safe in a nuclear war.
It already started.
Maybe next decade, doubt it will be the next 2 years.
I assume the time span was because of a certain penis potato. Sorry, I mean dictator.
You’re not overexagerating, the property crisis in the imperial core is becoming so severe that there are only 2 solutions, either the people rebel against its ruling class or they side with them and engage in yet another settler project. In my honest opinion, the latter seems like the most probably outcome, its already very advanced in Palestine and its starting in Syria.
