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Superheroes are pro-police propaganda. They teach you to be afraid of those who disobey the state rather than yhe state policies that drive impoverished and precariats to desperation.
What does Spidey do with the suspects he catches? He leaves them to get processed into the prison system where they can be used for slave labor, are subject to abuse by the staff and occasionally are killed by thirst or by getting braised in the showers.
White collar crime causes way more loss of life, more destruction and more cost than all the petty crime by multiple orders of magnitude and yet Spidey still goes after street goons. _The same for Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Ironman and Captain America. If they’re not fighting their own rogues gallery, they’re hunting street thugs.
They’re certainly not interested in the plutocrats who have captured our governments.
… you might be reading too much into a silly superhero. He fights a man with mechanical tentacles named ‘Doctor Octopus’. He has an enemy who is literally just a stage magician called ‘Mysterio’. There are several animal-people. One villain is literally made out of sand.
It’s… generally not that deep.
The MCU is one of the biggest moneymakers in Hollywood. It is literally Disney’s flagship media line and curiously when they attained Spider-man from Disney, the first thing they did was pull Spidey out of poverty and put Aunt May on the Avengers payroll.
It may not be that deep in the comics, but it’s still teaching kids the way to fight crime is to punch them in the face, break their legs and put them in an impacted and inhumane prison system.
Just like Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush and Dan Quayle taught us we should do as they were subsidiIng the prison industrial complex and pushing the War on Drugs.
I’m not saying you shouldn’t enjoy Spider-man. I read Spider-man as a kid and my grandson does today. He also fantasizes about punching baddoes in the face, and I can only hope he’ll realize that’s fantasy before his first real encounter with law enforcement.
Alright but 99% of my memories of superheroes as a kid weren’t them fighting crime, but them fighting supervillains, which is generally the main draw for kids.
It still instills a dynamic that the best way to solve disputes is by force and that some parts of the public are undesirable by fiat.
Given the current affairs of the US in which half our federal officials are trying to outlaw trans folk, I’m hyper-aware that this is a bad message to give.
It still instills a dynamic that the best way to solve disputes is by force
How often is it that superheroes start the violence? Or are you suggesting that smiling as your teeth are knocked down your throat should be the reaction, here?
and that some parts of the public are undesirable by fiat.
… given the predilection of comics for redemption arcs, antiheroes, the struggle of being different, and the fucking X-Men, I’m gonna have to press X to doubt on that.
Given the current affairs of the US in which half our federal officials are trying to outlaw trans folk, I’m hyper-aware that this is a bad message to give.
You’re hyperaware that a message that isn’t being sent is bad. Okay. I’m very aware that Teletubbies advocating genocide is bad. Good thing that’s not at all relevant.
How often is it that superheroes start the violence? Or are you suggesting that smiling as your teeth are knocked down your throat should be the reaction, here?
Here in the US, law enforcement escalates to force far more often than they encounter someone who is already aggressive, so it raises a question why villains in comics so consistently engage first?
The propaganda is in what is implied. Redemption arcs are the exception not the rule, and the implication is that most villains don’t get redeemed.
Now maybe it’s because they know their audience wants to see brightly colored supers knock the tar out of each other, and that might be true, but in the context of police work or vigilantism, it does paint human civilization as a lot more violent than it is. How often do heroes see violence break out during their day to day life (rather than, say, tracking it by police radio?)
I get that you don’t want your hobby criticized too sharply. Still, have you seen Spider-man stopping Proud Boys from harassing a drag queen? Have the avengers interposed themselves between a BLM demonstration and the police armed with CS-gas and riot munitions? (I really don’t know if they’ve done these things. I’d be delighted to see right-wing culture wars cross into the MCU, but Disney has their own opinions about their right to continue capitalizing.
Here in the US, law enforcement escalates to force far more often than they encounter someone who is already aggressive, so it raises a question why villains in comics so consistently engage first?
… because superheroes aren’t cops?
This is not in any way a normal reaction to a image of a woman in a catsuit called Black Cat singing showtunes from the musical Cats.
Take your hangups somewhere else.
But you still get people’s unconscious biases influencing their work.
Sure, but that could be said for any media, and saying that superheroes as a whole are just pro-cop propaganda is way over the line of what is a reasonable interpretation. I’m not even a big superhero guy and I recognize that. Shit, a big part of a lot of these superheroes is that the cops aren’t their friends and are part of the reason why they hide their identity.
That’s literally so wrong.
Why did Spidey become a hero in the first place? Because the cops couldn’t find the killer, so Peter did and killed the guy. Which was not justice.
So many heroes of NY in Marvel are focused on justice and the concept of what is justice. The Punisher kills, Daredevil punishes, Spidey is learning. Sometimes he lets people go, otherwise he believes imprisonment is an alternative. Sometimes there is an option that don’t fit either.
The point is Spider-Man knows killing isn’t justice and the cops/system doesn’t either, he literally is an enemy to police always. He simply is trying to make a dangerous world a little more safe in his local area.
Fuck out of here with your fake ass political take. Especially such a terrible one.
There’s a reason the Punisher is the unofficial mascot for the Thin Blue Line community.
In the Spider-man series, what is the problem that is plaguing Queens, that is driving Spider-man to vigilantism?
Punisher’s creator hates that cops use the Skull:
You’re barking up the wrong tree with your misguided “superhero’s are police propaganda” there’s plenty of heroes who go against the cops, like the Punisher, and plenty of villains with valid points, like Magneto. Overall Stan Lee and Jack Kirby created the heroes they created together to inspire their readers to be good people, and they created those heroes in very inclusive ways to represent all of us and our flaws.
Stories of heroes are as old as written word and likely older.
This is a weird take when “really rich guys doing depraved things” is a recurring villain trope across an awful lot of comic books and take up a huge portion of the narrative. Insane wealth is often framed so powerfully in these contexts that sometimes it can parallel superpowers.
The green goblin and doc oc are just really rich guys that do fucked up things! It’s implies that spidey puts goons and henchmen into the justice system because of course he does, what else is he going to do? His other options are killing them or just letting them get away with whatever the insane rich guy wants to do, which is often some kind of terror attack on NYC. And those both suck too.
Spidey is too busy trying to literally prevent some business tycoon from idk opening a demon portal under central park to also advocate for prison reform.
Just let the stories be fun.
ha, what a funny moment from a spider man comic!
what the fuck is going on in the comments.
