• CurlyChopz@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    On one hand, I don’t think Elon could actually “hack” a voting machine.

    On the other, he did basically just pay people to vote for him trump, so maybe he had other, more heavy handed methods…

    • glimse@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      Have you not been paying attention to this career? Elon Musk doesn’t actually do anything but stuff still happens.

      Maybe he hacked the machines in the same way he grinded PoE2

      • kameecoding@lemmy.worlddeleted by creatorEnglish
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        2 years ago

        Elon is an awesome hacker, he just did an RPC call using visual basic on the mainframe to hack the GUI and get through all 3 firewalls

        • glimse@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          I heard he reverse engineered the DNS and published a git lull which resulted in a total NVME DDOS of the computational cores.

  • Darkard@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 years ago

    Remember how every accusation was a confession.

    Remember how they wouldn’t shut the fuck up about voter fraud, illegals voting, machine tampering.

    Notice that suddenly all those problems went away.

  • dnick@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    The issue isn’t that musk could have interfered, the issue is that Trump thinks he did and is happy about the possibility that he did.

  • humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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    2 years ago

    Back in the B43 election days there was concern over Ohio and FL voting, with GOP friendly tabulating machine owners. Since 2016, GOP complaints about election totals have made DNC say elections are perfect and awesome, even though OH and FL are no longer swing states and still have same voting software. Israel won is all that matters to the politicians, it seems.

  • DicJacobus@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Is it me, or does this seem like a deliberate gaffe to rile up the opposition.
    send everyone into a tailspin over a worthless fake "gotcha!’

  • Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    A month ago or there abouts, someone posted the statistical breakdown of voting in the last election to Reddit. In the swing states (only the swing states) there was a larger than normal number of ballots where the only thing voted on was the presidential election (Ie not senate or local things). He proposed that Elon had used data from his lottery to select people who he thought were in it for the money and wouldn’t actually vote and voted on their behalf. He made quite a compelling argument.

    • Serinus@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      That was complete bullshit. The numbers didn’t check out. The “only swing state” thing wasn’t true and it was pretty easy to verify.

        • Psychadelligoat@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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          2 years ago

          I hate giving him the benefit of the doubt:

          Dudes never been able to stay on track when talking and tangents harder than I do off my meds. Dude started to praise Elon and his computers and his barely-functional mind connected computers to voting machines so that just got slotted right the fuck in there

          Too many people who habe actual interest in finding it haven’t been able to, election fraud is very unlikely here sadly

    • Anti-Face Weapon@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      I remember reading about that too, but it seems kind of contrived for two reasons.

      First of all, we all know it’s very easy to lie with statistics. Even if the statistics did seem damning (which is debatable when I read it), that could be from manipulation.

      Second, the scheme described would fall apart completely with even a SINGLE recount in ONE swing state. Even just a county wide recount would make the whole house of cards fall apart.

      The fact that the current administration has done nothing about this, despite access to some of the best data, analysts, and intelligence in the world, seems to imply that it is most likely not true.

      • djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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        2 years ago

        I would not trust the Biden administration to act in the people’s best interests on this matter, it’s entirely possible that any scrutiny on the 2024 election got handwaived due to Democrats not wanting to look like Trump-esque sore losers.

      • Zagorath@aussie.zone
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        2 years ago

        First of all, we all know it’s very easy to lie with statistics. Even if the statistics did seem damning (which is debatable when I read it), that could be from manipulation.

        Fwiw I recall seeing someone make the same analysis about high numbers of President-only ballots, only they reached a much less conspiratorial conclusion to explain it. I forget what the explanation was, but if multiple different people are analysing the same data in the same way, especially if their explanation is different, it lends credence to the idea that the analysis itself is fair.

      • quixotic120@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 years ago

        On the last point there is a precedent to not bother when the Supreme Court is stacked against you, and the Supreme Court of 2000 was outright balanced compared to the kook show of today

        When George w won Florida under fairly suspect terms in 2000 gore pushed it a bit and probably should’ve pushed it more. The recount was sketch as fuck, the margin was literally like 500 votes for the entire state, it was later found that a bunch of counties never actually did the recount, George’s brother was the governor, his cousin at Fox News made the first call that Florida and the election went to him, just a lot of fuckery all around. And there was a lot more to it than that but that’s the stuff they couldn’t bring up in court for various reasons.

        Gore pushed back and went to the Supreme Court with it and lost.

        So say there was strong evidence beyond major statistical anomalies. Do you think the stacked court system isn’t going to do everything possible to shoot down anything possible to actually litigating it? The democrats are well aware the only chance they would possibly have is if they literally had the most airtight evidence known to man of fraud, like elon himself admitting fraud with all the receipts to back it up, and even then they’d probably hit some kind of roadblock

        Anyway I think what people are referring to is this letter about bullet ballots:

        https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941

        It’s an interesting point that is unverifiable and could only be investigated by the current admin but see above. Given they only have about 5 hours left and frankly trump has been acting as president since he was elected anyway I don’t think it would matter even if the above was moot

        • Anti-Face Weapon@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          I will say that I think the discourse around the 2000 elections is generally very flawed. The SC ruled that you cannot do recounts only of select counties, which is a ruling that is actually pretty fair and reasonable. Furthermore, Florida later did a full recount and Bush won the state.

          • quixotic120@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            2 years ago

            So like fine, you have to review the whole state? Fine. But then address the other nonsense too. Address that tens of thousands of paper ballots were incompatible with machine counting and somehow had to be discarded even though they were easily human verifiable. Explain why these ballots were 3x more likely to be discarded in precincts that had a black majority.

            Explain why NORC reviewed the ballots that voting machines rejected from the entire state and found it would’ve resulted in a gore win, albeit a very thin one

      • jpreston2005@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        The fact that the current administration has done nothing about this, despite access to some of the best data, analysts, and intelligence in the world, seems to imply that it is most likely not true.

        Yeah, entrenched democrats in power couldn’t possibly be feckless idiots 🙄

    • SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      2 years ago

      I recall seeing something similar to that but never being able to find anything vetted on it.

      Id hate to sound like an election conspiracy theorist but there was a lot of conversation around star link and it being used for the voting machines. Another thing I personally was never able to confirm.

  • TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    2 years ago

    If there was interference Elon hired someone to do it. That man is an idiot and there’s no way he engineered it. If there’s interference then there are multiple parties who are aware and the more people you have who know the higher the chance for someone to leak the truth. Fingers crossed?

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 years ago

      I doubt there was actual vote-rigging on any serious scale. But it’s hilarious that Trump’s syphilis-riddled brain thinks that’s why he won.

  • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    2 years ago

    “Start free trial now”

    As opposed to the costly and constrained trials ending with “fuck it, he gets off scot-free because we dragged our feet on purpose and he’s above the law again”

  • jpreston2005@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    republican morons can be convinced to do anything if you first convince them that a democrat already did it, so it’s fair game.

    The entire time he was lying about the election being stolen, I wondered about this. Democrats were all “election integrity has never been more secure” but I was like, yeah, sure, all those vote counting machines made by private third party companies couldn’t POSSIBLY be tampered with 🙄 (tell that to Bernie Sanders supporters if you want to hear a belly laugh)

    drumpf himself voiced that “you won’t have to vote again” and “he already has all the votes he needs” in the run-up to election day. musk was literally buying votes in swing states, and now it can be said that all the information he got while running these blatant vote-buying schemes were probably used to cast votes on behalf of people he knew weren’t going to vote. This is seen in the fact that in those solid drumpf counties, the down ballot republicans didn’t win.

    Toward the end of the election cycle, drumpf was phoning it in so hard. Remember when he was at a townhall, took two questions, and then danced on stage for 40 minutes? Remember when his team had to beg him to get back on the campaign trail because he just inexplicably stopped? I optimistically took it for resignation because he faced prison, but it was, in fact, because he already knew the outcome.

    Now democrats have put themselves in a mess, because they touted election security like it was some ancient indecipherable machine that couldn’t possibly be interfered with, until now??

    So the guy that would have gone to prison for attempting to tamper with election results, gets onstage after barely winning an election, and says “gee, my faithful cock holster sure did a great job tampering with these election results.”

    So now what, immediate impeachment, that then fails? Do we wait till after the midterms to impeach? Or will they tamper with more election results to finally and forever usher in their fascist oligarchy?

    WHAT A FUCKING JOKE