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  • terrific@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Who is benefiting from NATO equipment being destroyed? Arms manufacturers. It’s not a null-sum game. They just make more arms. The Russo-Ukrainian war is just what the conservative establishment in Europe has been waiting for. The defense budgets are currently being boosted significantly. Who is befitting? Arms manufacturers. The establishment. This is not weakening imperialism, even in the narrow, Marxist-Leninist, sense. It’s strengthening it.

    I agree with the entire second paragraph you write. I just think Russia, and in particular the Russian elite (which runs the country) absolutely benefits from imperialism (again, in the narrow sense). They are deeply integrated in the Western capitalist banking hegemony. They own half of London. Until the war started, they supplied all of Western Europe with gas, and was paid in imperialist money. Hence benefiting from the global imperialist exploitation.

    On a side note, I can’t believe what a toxic place this sub is. People keep downvoting my replies simply because they don’t agree with me. This is the first and last time I have contributed to this community. Enjoy your echo chamber.

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      The west is heavily de-industrialized. There’s increased demand for millitary equipment, but very little in the way of factories to reproduce them. Palestine has benefited massively from the west not being able to fully commit to Israel, as an example. There just aren’t the actual factories necessary to continue to front proxy wars for NATO, again, big flashy toys but no real industry to keep fielding them. It’s the cost of empire increasing. I cannot fathom a world where this is benefiting empire, just like how the cost of maintaining empire increasing led to the collapse of the British Empire and the rise of the US Empire.

      As for Russia benefiting from imperialism, no, not really. The vast bulk of Russia’s capital exports are for tax havens. Russia has billionaires and the ultra-wealthy, but is absolutely sidelined by the west and is blocked out of looting and plundering the global south because of it. Also, selling the west gas isn’t the same as plundering the global south through financial domination, trade isn’t imperialism.

      Russia lacks finance capital and division of the world’s resources. It only has 4 of the top 100 corporations in the world and 6 of the top 500. 82% of Russian exports are raw materials, including 58% oil, 11% metal, and 6% food. In 2017, Russia imported $106.2 billion worth’ of machine goods and only exported $12.8 billion. Russia does not have any of the top 100 corporations in terms of capital export, and most Russian capital export is capital flight to tax havens. Russia only controls 0.7% of the world’s wealth and has much less wealth per adult than the United States ($8,843 vs $336,528). Russia has intervened militarily in other countries such as Yugoslavia, Georgia, Ukraine, and Syria, but not to seize natural resources like imperialist countries do.

      As for toxicity, I can’t really say I agree. Don’t put too much stock into downvotes, but at the same time, try to reconsider your own positions.

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        1 year ago

        try to reconsider your own positions.

        Try to go out into the real world and talk to some real people some time. Honestly, I mean it, not as a mean comment, but sincere concern. You are clearly very well read and informed. But there is a world beyond discussing theory with random strangers on the internet.

        • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml
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          Imagine acting this way and being pressed that people are being toxic to you. There’s no one in the world who could have been more patient with you and you turn around in spit in their face like this while complaining about the toxicity of the sub.

          You haven’t been met with a fraction of hostility and downvotes you deserve. You showed up in the first place to be a vapid piece of shit troll and you haven’t changed your attitude since. I sincerely hope you make good on your threat and fuck off forever.