• SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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    1 year ago

    Two problems here.
    One is jurisdiction. If the website is not incorporated in Florida, has no offices in Florida, and does not use Florida servers, why should they be subject to Florida law? Everything they do is completely legal in their home jurisdiction.
    This sort of enforcement is basically impossible on the internet. If anybody can access any website from anywhere, how is the website supposed to keep up with hundreds or thousands of changing jurisdictions each with their own legal requirements? And why should they have to?

    Second is interstate commerce clause of the Constitution. It reserves to the federal government the right to regulate interstate commerce. I would think that demanding that a out of state business change its business practices would fall afoul of that.

    Now it could be argued that since the website advertises in Florida and accepts sign ups from Florida residents, that they do business in Florida. However the simple solution there would be to disable payment for Florida residents.

    • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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      In 2018 SCOTUS ruled that states can require businesses with no physical presence or relationship to a state to collect sales tax for the state, effectively invalidating the Constitution’s Interstate Commerce Clause. Florida may be hoping this precedent along with a corrupt, illegitimate fascist majority in SCOTUS, will allow states to project their own local laws onto the entire country.

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      1 year ago

      Because they offer their services to people living in Florida.

      Same reason as to why you should include VAT on your prices if you sell to EU citizens

    • squaresinger@lemmy.world
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      If the customers are still in Florida and they still earn money in Florida, they are still subject to Florida law.

      The way they handle conflicting requirements in different regions is to use regional flags. It’s quite simple and it’s been done for a long time in more tightly regulated fields like e.g. online shopping.

      If it’s legal to sell weed online in some areas and illegal in others, you can’t just say “Well, our servers are in a region where it’s legal so we send weed all over the world.”

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        Wait, wouldn’t it be legal for a country with legal weed to send it, just illegal go receive it in a jurisdiction where it’s illegal? Like if I lived in the Netherlands I couldn’t be arrested for mailing it to the US, but it’d get stopped at the border.

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      1 year ago

      Band-aid for a gun shot wound.

      We need to make the very politicians, activists, etc., who made these kinds of laws possible to fear for their lives.

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        My shithole(ruzzia) is actively trying to shut them down. Now it’s a hefty fine for advertising VPN, and they recently even added law that punishes “search of illegal content”. Whatever the hell they mean by that.

        • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zip
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          Ideally, a full dark net would be great. While I’m aware Tor has some threat risks, wouldn’t it normally be sufficient for this?

          Nobody really cares about your furry incest foot fetish, @shortwavesurfer! We know, and have accepted you anyway 🩵

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            I do as much as I can over tor and hidden services make it even better since the service doesn’t know where you’re coming from and you don’t know where the service is.

            I download podcasts over tor (antennapod), update apps over tor (fdroid), connect to my monero node over tor (various), chat over tor (Signal and SimpleX), and can connect to home assistant over tor. If I could get away with it, I would just direct all of my system traffic over tor all the time. Hell, the only reason I don’t is because I need to log into my bank sometimes.

            • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zip
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              Services can’t tell where you’re coming from over Tor, right? Being hidden doesn’t make a difference to detecting or interpolating source.

              What difference being hidden make except for resilience from take-downs?

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                Correct, services cannot tell where you are coming from when you are using Tor. However, the service itself has no such protection.

                With the crackdown that is occurring on the internet, I think everything is going to have to go into hidden services to remain censorship resistant.

                Edit: I think it best to prepare for a world where the only use for the ClearNet is to download Tor, similar to how the only use for Microsoft Edge on Windows is to download Firefox.

                Eventually, there may come a day where the clear net is just not used at all.

  • sik0fewl@lemmy.ca
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    This is disgusting. Does anyone have a list of sites so I can block them all right now?

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      It’s in the title lol. Also new ones pop-up daily especially international ones. Use Bing to find the videos then see the domain they’re hosted at and go from there. When searching big, put xxx in the search as well and turn off the safesearch bs.

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    Shocking to see people defending one of the most exploitative industries out there just because its the republicans prosecuting them

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      I think you are missing the point of what people are upset about. Its not defending the porn industry (though sex work is work and should be seen as a legit job) its more about the age verification not being about protecting kids. Its about censorship and eroding frradom of speech

  • Mac@mander.xyz
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    1 year ago

    Time to start small-time porn groups.
    Ask your friends for their nudes.

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        1. Appreciate the natural human body as-is. Reject perfection and curated beauty.
        2. To get you must be willing to give.
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              There is also a vast amount of space between a normal human body and the bodies that most Americans now have. That has nothing to do with the unrealistic beauty standards in media (which is also a thing)

              Obesity is bad, and it annoys me when people start defending it as being beautiful. It’s not, it will kill you in loads of unpleasant ways.

              Get healthy, exercise, eat less, eat less sugars

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                Nobody in the thread above mentioned obesity. Nobody is saying you have to be attracted to obese people. Or disputing that it’s unhealthy.

                It remains true that there is a lot of space between this extreme and the extreme portrayed in media. Body weight is not the only standard, it’s one of many.

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                I’ve read that American food is particularly bad, and you are right, but the factor contributing most is the metabolism with which you are born, other things important are levels of stress, ability to sleep well.

                Exercise is important, yes. Eating right is as well. Just keep in mind that some things are outside your control, and if you think your health is your own achievement, that might not be entirely correct.

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                  Eh, no

                  The factor that matters most isn’t your metabolism. If that were true we’d have sever overweight issues since thousands of years but we haven’t. The overweight pandemic is caused by too much food, period.

                  Want to lose weight? Whatever your metabolism is, eat less, eat healthier. It’s that simple.

                  Yeah, exercise a lot, that’s healthy and needed. It won’t make you think though unless you really exercise a lot (3+ hours a day, every day)

                  Easiest way is to just eat less. Eat smaller portions, stop eating processed foods, cut your sugar intake.

                  There are some super interesting videos of a physicist / chemist going over the basics of the chemistry involved and implications of it, I can send those if you’re interested

            • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
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              I’ve met people far more beautiful than most you can see in mainstream media, let alone adult materials.

              (And in case one bitch with ASPD is stalking me, no, I don’t mean her ; that is, this is true for her too.)

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            Obesity is a result of many things. It’s mostly hereditary whatever you are born with, so the comment you are answering is right.

            Just like other cases of “unhealthy”. Just like with them, though, it’s possible to find one’s optimum in food and sports and sleep to feel better, and a person who feels better is usually more attractive.

            But looking like models you can find in the interwebs is just not possible if you are not already like them.

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              Obesity is not hereditary. It is calories in, calories out. You dont have to look like a model, but you dont have to be fat.

              People who feel better are healthy because they aren’t obese.

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                Obesity is not hereditary.

                It usually is.

                It is calories in, calories out.

                Passing through your individual system. Mine, for example, very badly processes sugars. One teaspoon of sugar in tea means I stink like cat piss in half an hour after drinking that tea.

                You dont have to look like a model, but you dont have to be fat.

                There are “fat” models, and also it’s usually not your choice as I have previously said.

                In case someone thinks I have a skin in the game - I’m as thin as a skeleton. But I have family members overweight and you really don’t know what you’re talking about, they are among the most healthy eating people I know and still their weight requires precision and discipline in their diet, both more than you likely ever achieved in life, sorry if rude.

                People who feel better are healthy because they aren’t obese.

                Yeah, it’s better to be healthy and rich than sick and poor, as they say to such statements where I live.

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                  Show me where obesity is hereditary and not habit based?

                  Sugar is still calories and still comes out as burned energy and processing those calories does not matter because it is still burned as energy.

                  They may eat healthy but they eat a lot of healthy food which is still calories and they don’t exercise which is how you burn calories.

                  Why are you taking personal attacks at me? Obesity is literally a self control issue. If you dont exercise, don’t eat as much. If you eat a ton, you have burn those calories or they will store up. This is the just how this works.

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            No one mentioned obesity except you.
            Stop projecting your own self-hatred into others.

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    You know what’ll also protect the children? Releasing the Epstein files.

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    He’ll be running for higher office very soon. He’s been in at least one abhorrent headline a week for months. Hope they find the CSAM on his laptop soon so I can stop hearing about this incompetent asshole

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    Unrelated to the article itself, but god fucking damn is that website absolutely absurd. It looks like a shitty campaign website. The sad sad man changed the seal of the office and put an eagle (because books are lame I guess) and “free state of florida” at the bottom like that’s a real thing. Can’t believe this works on people.