• Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    On behalf of California, we accept this proposal, and we accept Canada as our new federal government.

    I also propose we officially refer to the remainder of the US as “Dumbfuckistan”.

  • buzz86us@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Oh man I’d love to see the civil unrest in the red States when they don’t have us new Yorkers to give them their welfare payments.

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      2 years ago

      Same from the west coast. If only cali oregon and washington could just be a west coast alliance separate from the rest of the problem states.

  • isyasad@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Accepting pleas from other comments here, Canada could get away with about this. And if they have the whole Pacific border, I’ll also throw in Hawaii for free.

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    2 years ago

    ITT: People pretending that Oregon, Michigan, and probably Washington don’t have a huge population of total fuckos.

    Carve a line down the coasts. You don’t want the whole state. And while you’re at it, take the lakes and Chicago

    • TheDoozer@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      Eastern Washington people have been wanting to separate from Western Washington for a really long time. Western Washington is like “well fuckin do it.” But nobody actually tries to secede because EW’s dependent on WW’s economy.

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      2 years ago

      Yeah, East side of the cascades in OR and WA is extremely conservative. But they are currently hopelessly outnumbered.

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      2 years ago

      -Life expectancy will go up from a world ranking of 48th (USA) to 20th (Canada).

      -Education will get better from 31st (USA) to 19th (Canada).

      -Math scores will improve from 34th (USA) to 9th (Canada).

      -Robberies will go down from 98 per 100,000 population to 62.

      -Traffic accident deaths will drop from 12.7 per 100,000 to 5.3.

      -You will spend half as much on health care yet get better outcomes.

      -Poverty in Canada is 1/3 the rate in the USA.

      -Although Canada has fewer millionaires, we more fairly distribute wealth (better income equality).

      -The minimum wage in Canada is double that in USA.

      and most important you will be happier (Canada ranked 15th, USA 23rd in happiness).

      (We couldn’t find a politeness index, but thank you for reading)

      • pressanykeynow@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        Wouldn’t you get most of the millionaires and billionaires by including California and New York and the stats will start going to the US level or worse?

        • Maple Engineer@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          Because despite what the neo-fascists in the US (and in Alberta and the Conservative party) say it is very difficult to move to Canada. We don’t have open borders.

        • Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          Not really. Canada’s getting all the states that are doing the heavy lifting in those shitty numbers. If not for them, every metric would be worse.

        • Maple Engineer@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          I can assure you that the vast majority of Canadians are well aware of that fact and totally disinterested in become part of the US or taking on any part thereof.

          Americans joining Canada would have to give up their guns and other weapons, compete that training and licensing processes, and if successful would have the revocable and modifiable privilege of owning a very small selection of approved guns. They would have to accept that religious freedom in Canada, which is much higher than in the US, means that you are free to practice your religion in any way you choose as long as it doesn’t effect anyone else’s rights and you are free to have no religion at all. They would have to accept that it is settled law in Canada that a woman’s healthcare decisions are between her and her healthcare provider and none of anyone else’s business. They would have to accept that everyone has the right to marry, has had the right for decades, and that the only thing destroy traditional marriage is traditionally married people. They would have to accept that free speech in Canada does not include racism or hate speech. Most Americans would not fit in in Canada and we are not interested in becoming Americans and giving up the things that make us the best country in the world.

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          2 years ago

          Canada is 85 per 100,000 and the US is 146 per 100,000. Canada is a world leader in Corrections. We are focused on rehabilitation and reintegration. That’s why whenever there is a breakdown of a government Correctional Service Canada is on the Nation Building team that the UN sends in to help rebuild. I worked at CSC for 25 years and knew a guy who was on the UN plane that crashed in Kosovo during the Nation Building exercise there.

  • Snapz@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Is the US losing just about all of the top universities in this “trade”?

    • Snowclone@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      Losing CA alone would make the US possibly not even a world power. NY and CA gone, the US Would be a thing no one really has a reason to think of talk about. Suddenly all the movies would be about aliens landing on Canada or blowing up Canadian national landmarks.

  • DankOfAmerica@reddthat.com
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    2 years ago

    lol @ New Hampshire

    Also, that would be about 37% of the US economy. California making the highest percentage at 14% of the US economy while New York would be in 2nd place at 8%. The least impactful would be Vermont with 0.2% (for got to include Rhode Island). However, I think this would wreck the world economy with the financial hub of the US (New York City) who manages the investments of world’s reserve currency (dollar) would switch from US Dollar to Canadian Dollar. The US would also lose access to the Pacific and a considerable amount of military force stationed in the West Coast states.

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      2 years ago

      Not to mention half of the important US ports. The states left would face a harsh reality when everything tripled in price as all the goods that used to be subsidized by the rich states are now hit with import taxes as well.

  • arglebargle@lemm.eedeleted by creator
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    2 years ago

    I hate so say it, but you should grab Michigan and Wisconsin. Much like a girl I used to know: We can fix her, and she has huge lakes that I find appealing. Or something like that.