P.S. Please spare me all the “don’t kys” comments, I’m fine, I still need to outlive my abusive parent.
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Well, that’s creepy as fuck… One month old account, suddently active last hour and spamming threads with "Depression or anxiety do not actually even exist. DM me for help. ". Thanks for pinging me, i’ll ban them.
edit: Done, thanks again.
Death is inherently permanent and life is inherently temporary. Any life problem is still ultimately temporary.
And just because a medical condition isn’t “curable” doesn’t mean it isn’t “treatable”, and treatments continue to be developed.
And, with many medical condition, environmental factors can significantly change quality of life.
One can’t definitely know what their personal experience of an incurable medical condition will be in the future.
Edit: what I just said but in meme form:
Buddhists say the exact opposite - suicide is a temporary solution to a permanent problem.
Yeah but in Buddhism suicide is basically just using a reroll.
Disclaimer: I know nothing about Buddhism.
They do have punishment time in between reincarnations, though I am not sure if suicide is something you’d be punished for or not. 🤔
I thought reincarnating to a “lesser” life form is punishment.
it’s not a punishment.
if you live your human life as a terrible person, then that would be a great shame because you were endowed a chance to more directly change your soul’s karma but you absconded it.
therefore, such souls are given a new chance on the wheel. it’s hard to fuck up being a fly and inconsequential if you die, for example. it’s not exactly a big cosmic timeout to think about what you’ve done, and more is the universe throwing you a bone, saying “hey, you fucked up, i get it. try something more your size for a change.”
anyway i’m not a buddhist but afaik this is generally correct for most of the major branches of it.
God damn it budda, I don’t wanna be reincarnated as a fucking insect 😭
If it makes you feel any better, it shouldn’t last long - most insects live very short lives 🤷♂️
I like this a lot
people are uncomfortable accepting a person’s mental health can be so debilitating and detrimental it makes their life unlivable. treatment resistant depression is a documented illness. each person is fighting a battle only they know the extent of. people want to believe that treatment is a guaranteed success if you do it the right way (this is subject to change from individual to individual). they’ll acknowledge the fact that mental healthcare is a disaster (if you’re in the US) but talk like you’re giving up for ceasing treatment. regardless, the unwillingness to validate suicidal people’s pain is why you hear these kinds of things.
Oftentimes people ignore that depression is also a product of a system that prioritizes profit over everything else including mental and physical health. You can go to therapy all you want but it doesnt put more money in your pocket or lower prices to lower financial stress, decrease food insecurity, doesnt increase job security and satisfaction, doesnt give you back the time your employment has robbed from you, doesnt improve relationships and your ability to form them, doesnt make third places pop into existence, etc. Therapy cant remove those factors that cause depression in the first place. I have increasingly heard stories of people going to therapy only for the therapists to realize that they literally cant do anything about the stressors because modern life is so systematically stacked against the individual.
I’m curious who says depression isn’t curable. I hadn’t heard that before.
Chronic depression sufferer here. My perspective on it is you don’t cure it so much as you learn how to live with it.
Most western sources say that depression is “treatable” but not “curable” meaning its like cancer, it can go into remission but it can always come back just like cancer.
So far, AFIAK, only in PRC they says its “curable”, but I that’s like an outlier, and its probably due to the culture of denying mental health isssues.
You may never be free of it, but once you find a treatment that works for you, it’s like the depression isn’t there. You can then potentially treat it forever and it won’t affect you.
Interesting. I’d never heard that before. I totally understand the point.
If it gives you or anyone else hope I was diagnosed and institutionalized over three and a half decades ago and I’d assumed I’d been “cured”. Honestly I don’t even give it much thought anymore. I haven’t needed therapy or been prescribed any medication for it in decades and I’ve been able to lead a full and happy life.
Hope you get what you need ❤️
It starts with whether you consider mental disorders, such as depression as an illness or not. In western literature we are moving away from the illness aspect, because of its linguistic implication.
Illnesses are often thought of as being curable and have a foundation in something that causes the illness, like a virus, bacteria or similar causes. Whereas depression causes are manifold, from the light levels during winter, over learned behaviour to the very system of society. Which is why we consider depression not to be an illness but a condition.
As an analogy, you would not classify bad eyesight as an illness but a condition, there is no cure but there’s treatment, glasses. In some cases the treatment can be lasers and surgery which fix the condition, but generally speaking the same goes for depression. You can treat it with different methods, some can remove the cause and others require constant treatment.
Don’t KYS!
Chanding social and/or material conditions can relieve it. Cure is a strong word in this comtest since adulthood inherently gonna have stress. It is a out magic it but more importantly being able to do it, which the key.
Depression goes away after a while and can be managed.
For some folks depression is at least partially hormonal; and changes in age/diet/environment cause the episodes to really drop off.
That isn’t to say that this saying is fair/true/useful. It is not an argument that I like - some temporary problems are still worth solutions with side effects, and I think people should think/talk it through.
Because feeling suicidal is rarely permanent. Hope you get through this
Having a life worth living is rarely temporal
depends on which kind of depression, major depression or clinically diagnosed needs treatment from mental health professional and medicaiton, because there might be an actual chemical imbalance. Panic attacks, anxiety epsiodes co-occur with depression.
temporary, is like when you get sad, or disappointed because something happened at that moment.
Depression can’t be fully “cured”, but it can be managed. And as people get better at managing it, they get better at dealing with the hopelessness and despair.
The despair comes in waves; handling depression is about pulling yourself out of that temporary hole rather than giving up.
I’d add as well that “managed” doesn’t necessarily just mean “reduced”; it can mean “effectively eliminated” in many cases, with the proper treatment(s). Some people - not all, but some - are able to find balanced solutions without being a slave to medication and side effects, or weird diets, or frequent therapy sessions.
Depression manifests differently in everyone, unfortunately, which means that each person must find the treatments that work best for them. Heck, even for a single person the effective treatments will change over time.
For some people, all that is needed is to find the rights meds or combination of meds, at the right dosage; others may find that simply changing their diet and/or sleep schedule can help; psychotherapy and/or certain learned cognitive techniques may be the answer for many; most people will use several of these.
Regardless, even though your solution may be unique, it’s really important to realize that you’re not the only one going through it, and there have been thousands and thousands that have gone through it and gotten better. Not cured, you’re right - but better. There are many, many of us out there ready and eager to help you get through it, so you don’t have to do it alone.
You cant “cure” hunger, you have to keep eating
Noooooooo! I need to stop my Dihydrogen monoxide addiction 😭
People that say that don’t understand the difference between having a bad experience vs having a miserable life.
My depression only lets me see the worst in everything; then the mind falls into a familiar cycle of hating myself and not wanting to exist anymore to stop the pain. This problem is permanent.
This not to be confused with grieving for a failed relationship or losing a job or losing a loved one. Feeling sadness is a typical experience just by being a human. This type of problem is ‘temporary’ even though it can last a long time.
