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I got too far in the article to not hear about people possibly mass reporting the pic. I don’t want to hear people on social media and how they think it’s censorship, zuck sucking trump, whatever.
Oh fuck, I read the entire thing and it never even mentions it. Maybe I need to finish my coffee but it seems like kids just don’t realize you can abuse automated systems, or if you can, that it’s not automatically a deliberate attempt to censor their ideas. It’s too hard to imagine with “but it’s meta! Zuck bent the knee!” screaming in your mind’s ear.
Won’t somebody think of the zuck?!
Even if it’s not malicious, it’s still a case of a company sitting on more cash reserves than most small countries, and just choosing not to do better on their moderation systems.
So what you’re saying is there’s no reported evidence of that happening.
It’s fascinating what some people will give the benefit of the doubt to.
An organization that serves fascism is fascist. IG definitely qualifies.
They censor everything, also pro abortion posts get removed
“We use technology or a review team to identify content that should be covered,” a notice obscuring the post reads. “This post doesn’t go against our Community Standards, but may contain images that some people might find upsetting.”
Yeah, I bet.
“What the f**k, Instagram?” a Bluesky user wrote.
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“We can say ‘fuck’,” this lemmy user wrote.
This is a direct quote from the article
Classic
So what are you all going to do about it?
I already don’t use Instagram so not really much more I can do but I guess it doesn’t impact me because of that
Those who use Instagram will keep using it and forget all about this within 24 hours.
Continue to not use Facebook/Instagram.
I switched to Lemmy when Reddit came out in support of people who abuse children. I don’t even mean Trump, I just mean in general. I suggested abusers in general should face harsher penalties. They banned me for it. I said “holy shit you just did me a huge favor, apparently I was on the wrong site because our values are 100% incompatible.”
I mean, there isn’t even a debate. I’m not talking about people who find themselves attracted to kids. I’m talking about people who actually went out and hurt a real child facing longer, more meaningful sentences and they said nah, those people are people and need to be protected.
I’ve moved social networks on account of incompatible values and I think others will, too. Maybe not the majority but I think some others will. Especially as things get worse. There are networks for people who hate (like Truth Social), and networks for people who don’t care (like Facebook/Insta/Whatsapp), but I think as things change, more people will care and will look elsewhere. Not everyone but some people.
Most people will continue and have continued to use the same big name social media, and expecting different from gen x and older is foolish. And these are still massive blocks of politically important people. Never mind the swarths of people in younger generations who will and are falling for the same dumb shit.
I mean, there isn’t even a debate.
Just like anything else an argument could be made for rehabilitation, but yeah banning for this is insane.
I got banned for suggested someone stab a can with a knife to open it (they didn’t have a can opener). They said I was promoting violence. I appealed and a human still banned me for that. What a crock lol
So nothing
Move to mastodon and lemmy
Why do you ask?
When will we get over the corpo social media
I asked that before it started.
Here we are.
Did you all forget Insta is just Facebook for people under 65?
Same parent company. Same priorities. The dame people pushing AI gen antarctic ice wall and horse dewormer content on your memaw are deciding what you see too.
Meta is actively pursuing government contracts for uses of its supercomputer it’s putting online next year and it’s AI investments. They are becoming a defense contractor essentially. To acquire contracts during this regime, I’m sure they will give any backdoor and facial recognition assistance the Pentagon asks for.
Being redundant to say this. People are actively posting pictures of themselves, their families, and their locations continuously and sending them to a government defense contractor. Posting their activities, hobbies, who they interact with, their food, et cetera.
If things news companies cared about people’s privacy, they would be broadcasting that on every network warning the population in my opinion. But that would piss off the U.S. government, and they don’t want that.
Yeah, everyone should stop using Instagram, Facebook, threads, reddit, tik tok. But the FOMO is too strong. It’s too bad, if they did it would fix most of their problems in like a week.
Why is the leftist approach is to platform the opposition while the rights approach is to overwhelm the space until it does what they want?
Which approach do you think is working and which one do you think is failing?
Which approach do you think requires more money and cooperation from the network management?
Neither.
Both sides have money. In fact the left has much more money than the right.
We’re not even talking about big money here. The average right leaning person will give a dollar to any thing they agree with. The left mull over the morality and ethics of a thing until it passes then they say “well I would punch a Nazi if I ever needed to” but they can’t even muster the energy to read a comment they disagree with.
Look at the donations given to random assholes who said something anti vaccination. Millions of donating poured in. Look at that women that yelled racial slurs at kids in a park. Millions.
I saw Jon Stewart posted here the other day and the comments were calling him a fascist.
We’re fucking done.
I asked which approach requires more money, not who has more. You said the left doesnt want to spend that money, ok. Maybe the mass of liberals collectively has more money, maybe. Not the left though. And the network cooperation part? Which agendas are being priviledged by the recomendation algorithms in social medias?
What is the money doing? It does what we do for free. The algorithm favoured the right because they create content. It’s not a finger on the scale saying show people more right wing stuff. It’s the the right share and create content because they actively engage and participate online rather than sit in the sidelines. But the left wing causes and political parties see more donations than the right on average.
Democrats are able to raise more capital. Left leaning voters earn a higher Average income than right leaning. There’s money on the left we’re just less effective and more apathetic.
There is a finger on the scale though. Youre underestimating its weight. When we disagree on the “left” having money and sharing stuff, etc, i think we actually just disagree on who is the left. In my view, the left is probably a smaller group than in your view. This smaller group i consider left doesnt have much money, and does get a diminished voice in social media despite engaging a lot (relative to its demographic proportion).
I would argue you marginalizing the left into a smaller group is pretty beneficial to the right and you might want to view it critically. Like if you were the right with a lot of money and effort in astro turfing and targeting the left online then maybe you have succumbed to something they may have pushed. How would you know either way?
I think you forgot to say the reason why you think the left has more money than the right.
Exactly.
Okay, now do religion.
Everyone should stop going to churches, synagogues, mosques, the church of latter day saints, and scientology. But the FOMO and fear of eternal damnation is too strong. It’s too bad, if they could just realize that everything is god including themselves, they could live happier more fulfilling lives in like a week.
Wayyy ahead of you.
I’m so far ahead of you I’m actually behind you.
People don’t really go to services for god or salvation, they do it for community.
I stopped going to church because the community was composed of rank hypocrites and bigots. I can have communal spaces elsewhere.
100 percent true. After many long years of observation and philosophical debates with myself, this was the logical conclusion I came to.
Most of those who visit th se “holy places” do so for the community and rarely for any actual religious reason.
Alright, the only way we can defeat religion is with cookouts and community events
It won’t work. Everything gets monetized and marketed till it’s soulless and drug-like.
Everything…
much more likely than with logical debates online, I’d say
You mean the app that’s run by a fascist and that promotes genocide? I’m shocked. SHOCKER!!! \s
(Seriously use Pixelfed instead, even if only partially for support.)
Pixelfed is dead just like mastadon . Loops was the only hope but someone on dbzero said loops is also fucked
mastodon isn’t dead.
Ofcourse it has users but no replies make it dead
By that same logic, Lemmy is dead, so what are you doing here?
No it’s not . You replied people reply is the proof but on pixelfed their are no replies. Dead area
Maybe your photos are just shit. I get engagement. Which, by the EXACT FUCKING STANDARD that you just used, PROVES it’s not dead.
So… If you think that wonder what you could do about it? If only there was somewhat to get involved and make a difference…
i dont want to do mastdon and its clones like planora or something is a failed experiment to copy what x / twitter did . to make that type of layout to work there need to be a lot more stuff and the big problem is people will always see new stuff instead of reddit like layout where people also see old stuff and thats why lemmy survived and mastadon did not
there need to be a lot more stuff
but that is just the thing, you need to make the stuff. That is how it grows.
I don’t know about Pixelfed but I’m pretty active on Mastodon and I get enough engagement there. I’d say it compares to Instagram like Lemmy compares to reddit.
That’s what happens when you sukk the zukk
It’s time for Pixelfed!
I really wish we had an end-to-end encrypted option where posts are only shared and accessible to people you’ve added. Some of us don’t wish to post our personal photos to everyone on the internet.
Signal lets you post “stories”. Not sure exactly how it works because I’m not into that sort of thing, but it might be something to check out.
Depends on immigrant.
All platforms are just becoming censorship hellholes for the owners.
Instagram is Facebook so no surprise there.
facebook= propaganda arm of russia in the US for boomers, and a site filled with bots.
Legal immigrants who have something to offer and dont expect handouts can make a country great.
Correct.
In addition, illegal immigrants that spend their dollars on the local economy, pay taxes without taking from the social security pots and do low wage jobs locals don’t want to do also make a country great.
If people receive low wages to do a job that no one wants to do, sorry but it isnt a great country.
Basically the entire food industry from farm to table is exploited for their value and profit. Hell I worked for a cafe for the last 5 years with shit base pay because the money hungry owners don’t give a flying fuck if I can afford an apartment much less food or medicine. lol I didn’t even get an acknowledgement when I burned my arm on the oven and it left lasting marks. We need unions across sectors and industries for workers right but thats a slim chance of happening
Something interesting to me is how the left takes these things on the chin. In these comments there are lots of comments like “yea well they all do this”. Compare that to the right during covid who would take screenshots and make sure everybody knew this was happening and not only that it was happening but how this would lead to dystopian authoritarian rule that threaten each and every person. I see this over and over again with each and every opportunity to show people how bad things are getting. But instead we snuff out these things ourselves and just move along.
The left have no bite. They are all bark
Can we make this character be the face of leftists from now on. Because its most of you.
Yes, clearly the handful of people with no power that advocate for Socialism or Communism are what is wrong with our country now.
I think you are confused and are perhaps really wondering why centrists keep getting moved to the right.
Both dominate political parties in the US are fascist in nature. You have the authoritarian fascists and you have the neolib fascists.
Picking on the left is just a convenient scapegoat at this point. It is low hanging fruit and is pretty pointless.
The dichotomy between the left and right on these kind of issues are probably more economic than anything else.
The people I know that freaked out about these sort of things were typically maga types. Lower income, lower education, and relied on social media for all kinds of news, human contact, and such.
Meanwhile most liberals and conservatives that didn’t, lived more comfortably with higher career and education levels. This isn’t even really a left wing vs right wing kind of thing. Even the conservatives I knew that had higher education and career accomplishment freaked less out about Covid and social media “censorship” too because they could just do without.
If you can live comfortably and it doesn’t affect your living, you tend to not rock the boat
They were getting whipped up and manipulated. A lot of that shit you are talking about was not organic. A lot of the shit you are talking about was pure paranoid mass delusion. A moral panic just like a classic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_panic. It’s a feature of the left that such things DON’T spread the same way.
Yes I agree with what you’re saying. But the left has to adapt or its finished. For all the talk of intelligence and how dumb the right are goes out the window. That’s because even with the money and the power, the people on the right had enough awareness to know when to lean into something even if they didn’t agree and when to pull back. The left do not. People keep saying they don’t understand how people can ignore Trump’s dumb bullshit. It’s because they don’t actually like Trump. The left doing understand this. Trump is giving them victory after victory. It’s not about Nazi or fascism or any of that. It’s about winning. The left have placed to many barriers to winning that something basic like Gavin Newsom mocking Trump is seen as amazing. That should have been the approach 10 years ago. Instead people focused too much on calling him a racist directly. You have to show not tell.
There hasn’t been a meaningful left among your country’s ruling class in a very long time.
Check out Mr. Militant over here. You’re doing your part by moaning on Lemmy. Well done you. Be the change.
100% more effort than anything else going on with Lemmy or leftist.
The left are so anti left that they’re regressing so rapidly that women can’t even get an abortion anymore. Their excuse is “money”. The actually cause is that the average leftist is dumber then the average person on the right. They’re on average less effective. The past decade is more than enough proof of this. I don’t care what you’re going to reply with because I know it’ll be some sassy comment to make you feel better. But it’s not going to change fuck all. The left is fucking cooked.
The left are so anti left that they’re regressing so rapidly that women can’t even get an abortion anymore.
So the left is bad because of republican policies? Are you real?
Compare that to the right during covid who would take screenshots
Be more specific. Do you mean how sites were taking down covid conspiracies that were getting people killed?
Also, these sites aren’t free speech platform. They’re advertisement platforms. They should be burnt to the ground.
Yes because the right mobilized and overwhelmed the sites with complaints. Add to this the mass cancelling that created panic in any celebrity made them all support each other. So now you had Joe Rogan bringing Zuckerberg on and really drilling home how problematic the left was and how they needed to stop it. The left went full toxic ex girlfriend. They were keying cars and lighting fires everywhere and never understood why nobody wanted to associate with them.
I never saw any cars getting keyed near me. I actually don’t have any political messaging on my truck because I’m worried about my mirrors getting smashed though. I think you’re living in a fantasy world created by your social media bubble.
