• MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world
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      The fact that they want to call everything

      “false flags”

      & the fact that their go to move is projection

      definitely makes this whole thing pretty sus to me.

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    What is it they think they are threatening to do at this point? Taking hostages? Send them to a death camp? Cleanse entire communities? They kinda already came in hot and late to be threatening that there is anything left to lose worth stopping at prior to this point.

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      At this point the right wing description of a leftist is so amorphous it includes everyone and nobody.

      So for conservatives it probably means brown people and trans people.

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    So, people on the right are calling for violence against the left? And this is different from any other day ending in Y because…?

    • This is something a lot of people don’t seem to understand. The right has already been calling for leftists to be dragged to the streets and executed. Celebrating a dead Nazi isn’t going to change that.

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        In DC they just straight up fabricated some bullshit. People who think kirk getting a lead pill changes anything are delusional.

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    The GOP is already at war with us. They are stealing all of our public funding, they are taking away vaccines that save our lives, they are sending in armed military to keep us in fear, and they have purchased the supreme court to give them whatever they want.

    The war started in January when the pedophile got into office.

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    War against who? Do we have the perpetrator? Do we know their political affiliation? The Trump shooter was a registered Republican. Are they waging war against their own party?

    Obviously they don’t need evidence to be horrifically violent shit stains, they’ve managed that well enough so far.

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      I love how some officials are already calling it a “political assassination” and everyone is talking about “political violence” when there’s not even a suspect.

      We don’t know what the shooter’s motives were, but there’s a whole bunch of people who really want this to be political.

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        When this turns out to be a disgruntled MAGA nut, I hope they reflect fondly on " We are all domestic terrorists".

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          Not a snowball’s chance in hell, unfortunately. These people are incapable of believing that their own side would do anything bad. It causes too much cognitive disonance, going against the narrative they built up about themselves being the victims and not the perpetrators.

          They will just, yet again, claim that the shooter was secretly a Democrat or brainwashed by woke liberal Democrats.

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            He donated a dollar to a children’s hospital when he was in line at the grocery store when he was 12, so he’s always been a Commie socialist terrorist Venezuelan gang member.

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        I mean, it’s pretty obviously political. We may not know the exact motives but the victim and timing make it clear that politics is involved in one way or another.

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          This whole thing reeks of an inside job.

          The shooter evaded surveillance and blended in with the crowd, shot him from 200 yards off on top of a multi story building, then jumped off of the building and managed to run away, ditching the rifle in the woods nearby, along with some kind of writing and identifying initials left on ammo and the rifle which could be a simple misdirection. It certainly must not expose the shooter as a liberal or it would be plastered all over the news by now in high detail.

          Im not aware of any targeted political assassination in recent memory where the shooter planned their escape so meticulously. This wasnt someone randomly waking up and deciding to kill Kirk. It also definitely wasn’t someone cosplaying that had no idea what they were doing but tried to plan. Regular people dont confidently jump off of multistory buildings without knowing how to do that shit.

          Plus the only reports we have from people who were there mention that there was a particular lack of security/police presence for such a divisive event. I think this dude is a manufactured martyr. What moral evidence is there that the MAGA party wouldnt stoop that low? Their entire political compass is defined by scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Not to mention Kirk was an up and coming political threat to the likes of JD Vance or whoever, only 4 years away from being able to jump into a presidential race and probably take the lead…

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            You don’t remember the United Healthcare shooter getting away? I think you’re just really overestimating how hard it is to kill someone and get away from the scene immediately afterwards. Now, not getting caught later is harder to do but it’s not like action movies where you have to fight your way past 100 guards to escape. You just run away from the location with everyone else who’s running from the gunshots.

            I don’t know that I believe the whole thing was a conspiracy. It’s theoretically possible but so are a lot of really unlikely things. I just think the fact that the shooter got away doesn’t say as much as you think it does.

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        It’s pretty clear it was a political hit. It’s doubtful that his wife hired a hit man sniper to kill him because he was cheating or something.

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        I love how some officials are already calling it a “political assassination” and everyone is talking about “political violence” when there’s not even a suspect.

        It’s probably not a good idea to beat around the bush with this one. The mango in chief himself is saying this shit (TW: the link is truth dot social).

        At about 3 minutes in:

        “Radical-left violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives.”

        Followed by bullshit about how great of a person Charlie Kirk was, and then

        “Charlie was the best of America and the monster who was attacking him was attacking our whole country”

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          the monster who was attacking him was attacking our whole country

          Almost got it. He wasn’t attacking the “whole” country, just MAGA. I doubt that I would have to worry about my safety with the killer. A MAGA Nazi should, though.

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      The shooter could be a sitting MAGA congressman, and they’d still say he was a liberal.

      When 9/11 happened, they were scheming in the White House the next day about how they could blame this on Iraq, because that’s who they wanted a war with, even though everyone knew that it was Al Qaeda, led by Osama Bin Laden, and financed by Saudi Arabia.

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    They don’t even know who did it and they want retribution? It could have been a pelestian illegals immigrant for all they know.

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    As always these pussies will have a big whinge then back down.

    Please just make it legal to kill Nazis again, I’d do it for pay if we could claim a bounty on the hides.

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    Retribution against who, exactly…? Who do they randomly want to lynch in the street? Just the next person they see with hair that’s too long/short in their view? Maybe they want to shoot up some more gay bars…?

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      That’s ideal. I’ve seen trucks with “kill your local pedophile” on them.

      Some people are looking for a reason to identify people they don’t like as someone worthy of death.

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        “Not a registered Republican? Or the wrong sort of registered Republican? Well I feel justified in killing you in retribution for a random media figure being shot and killed by… someone. Because frdm.”

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    Anyone see the video where two men directly behind him were doing really obvious hand signals? Is it up somewhere on lemmy because Reddit took it down?

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      There’s this perverse incentive in how these people make money and a living. If they abandoned the culture war, they’d be broke.

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      I’m not saying it was a false flag. I’m just saying that if we find out later on that it was a false flag, I will not be surprised one bit.