Right-wing lawmakers pushed for a tribute to the U.S. conservative influencer who was shot dead.

European Parliament President Roberta Metsola on Thursday rejected a bid by right-wing factions to hold a minute of silence for slain U.S. conservative influencer Charlie Kirk.

The initiative was first proposed by Charlie Weimers, an MEP from the right-wing European Conservatives and Reformists (ECR), as a symbolic measure “to declare that our right to freedom of speech cannot be extinguished,” according to an email chain with dozens of MEPs that was seen by POLITICO.

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    10 months ago

    Why would they? He’s a frickin podcaster, not some virtuous political figure gunned down doing their duty to the public. He was paid to be at an event to promote himself and his agenda.

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    10 months ago

    No mention of the kids killing in that school shooting.

    These people can go fuck themselves.

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    10 months ago

    he is just an influencer on a foreign country, not an EU elected official or high ranked member

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      10 months ago

      Not even an elected member from a foreign government (like the Minnesota democrats who were shot a couple of months ago)

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      10 months ago

      Yeah, the GOP keeps trying to make this asshole into something more than he’s not. He wasn’t even part of ANY government service. Like, this clown wasn’t even a local parks and rec employee of a small town.

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        10 months ago

        the GOp need something to unify the disarra-yed supporters of magats. THE MSM will just sweep this under the rug like they did with RUSH, ONCE THE NEWS cycle blows over, they did nothing of noteworthy to benefit society so they will just disappear as soon as people reorient themselves with epstein again.

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      10 months ago

      He’s not just a YouTuber, he’s a Republican Mega-Bundler. One of the richest country’s premier bagmen has been slain. How can you be so callous? It’s not like he’s a Palestinian or a Minnesota Congressperson or a Colorado school kid, here. He’s important!

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        10 months ago

        And then they have the gall to say they have thick skin and that liberals are the snowflakes. They have contempt for reality.

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        10 months ago

        They cause an uproar anytime they don’t get what they want. Like toddlers having a tantrum. It’s part of a very calculated strategy, and the sad part is, it seems to work.

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          10 months ago

          I’m still trying to decide how much is that, and how much they just like outraging. Gets the blood pumping, y’know.

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          10 months ago

          Maybe we need to do the same for anthing caving in to fascists, and write it off as “weak” when they do so. Fascists detest being called weak.

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          10 months ago

          I work for a major casino in Nevada. During the last campaign, we hosted both Tim Walz and Donald Trump. When Walz was here, his supporters were absolutely pleasant to have over. Polite, mature, etc. Then the Trump Campaign had their event, their supporters made it a point to go around the casino acting like immature high school kids that just attended a pep rally. It was like they were going out of their way to disrupt operations of a business that actually welcomed them in. It really exemplifies the type of absolute trash filling that portion of the American population.

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            10 months ago

            As Thomas Mann put it referring tothe late 1930s, they tried dicatorship of the proletariat. Now it’s dictatorship of the scum of the earth.

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    10 months ago

    If the EU Parliament had to have a minute of silence for every shitty American killed by a gun, they’d never have time for anything else.

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    10 months ago

    as a symbolic measure “to declare that our right to freedom of speech cannot be extinguished,”

    Let’s celebrate our freedom of speech (which isn’t even a thing in the EU) by forcing everyone to be quiet!

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      10 months ago

      which isn’t even a thing in the EU

      Of course it is. Just not like in the US.

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        10 months ago

        No, EU has freedom of expression…

        Which is why it’s “not like in the US” because it’s a different thing…

        We can tell that, because the fucking words are different.

        https://fra.europa.eu/en/eu-charter/article/11-freedom-expression-and-information

        The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary."

        Kirk advocated for violence constantly, most of what he said wouldn’t have been legal in Europe

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          10 months ago

          You’re conflating the philosophical concept of freedom of speech with the first amendment of USA’s constitution.

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            10 months ago

            He said they have “freedom of speech”.

            I pointed out they have “freedom of expression” and that the vast amount of shit Kirk said doesn’t meet the more rigid standards of the EU’s laws…

            And you think I’m conflating things?!

            I’m literally clarifying, the person conflating is the one using two legal terms from different countries interchangably.

            This isn’t a philosophical debate, it’s literally what all of these words mean…

            You could have at least accused me of being pedantic, at least that would have been using words correctly

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              10 months ago

              Freedom of speech is not a legal term outside of USA. It’s a concept.

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                10 months ago

                I’m sorry I can’t explain this in a way you’re capable of understanding, you will have to ask someone else for any further help with this or any other topic.

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    10 months ago

    So I’m an American. I’m not understanding when this moment of silence was supposed to happen. Usually an event or a game we care about, this might happen for someone truly influential. I was out of the know so I went to learn.

    What the MEP(whatever tf they are) was asking, is that the European Parliament take a minute of silence during their Plenary.

    A plenary session or plenum is a session of a conference or deliberative assembly in which all parties or members are present. Such a session may include a broad range of content, from keynotes to panel discussions, and is not necessarily related to a specific style of presentation or deliberation.

    Would US congress or senate take a moment of silence for a social influencer on either side of the spectrum for any other nation?

    That is a rhetorical question. Nice try, but this is only “news” on social media where nobody would have known or cared about it if someone didn’t post about it.

    Our own government won’t even do it. Football season is starting fresh and they didn’t do it. Why the fuck would another nation give a shit???

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      10 months ago

      it was already done at an NFL game. i think? it was already done in Congress, where (if memory serves), right-wingers didn’t feel a moment of silence went far enough and demanded a spoken prayer.

      edit - to clarify, done specifically for the newly dead influencer, whose name i don’t care to type atm.

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    10 months ago

    Who is this guy Kirk and why would EU Parlament hold a minute of silence? Seriosly, he is just another gun violence victim in US, not EU problem. Not even US problem, every idiot can have a gun so “you ask for it”.