• LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world
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    Yeah cause that’s what we all want. An unseasoned, mayonnaise salad called America.

    I hate these stupid religious conservatives who don’t know what critical thinking is. Virus on society.

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    @kinther white and Christian are not synonymous. The largest demographic of Christians are black. It is far more likely that you’re an atheist if you’re white. Christians are anti-racist BY NATURE. There are very few actual white nationalists and zero with any political power, despite what you’ve been told via the hyperbolic Democrat rhetoric and their paid online spokespersons and former mainstream news outlets.

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      Christians don’t exist “by nature”. While it’s accurate that a true Christian wouldn’t be racist, they don’t exist in meaningful enough numbers to lead the church away from the bigots who’ve overtaken it. Christians would never vote for a pathological liar and admitted sexual deviant, but look where we are. Your concept of Christianity is commendable, but naive and incongruent with reality. The fact you think it’s a political party poisoning the world against Christianity and not the actions of Christians just points out your own biases and propaganda-fed misconceptions. I know Trump is not an actual Christian, but he certainly claims to be and he’s definitely a white supremacist. And since the church put him in power and continue to support him voraciously, they effectively are all racists now. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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      AGREED! People DONT know that it’s actually BLACKIES that are the Racist and NOT us Correct White Christians!

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      The current administration is made up of white nationalists, but sure, live in whatever fantasy land you currently believe in.

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        @ghostlychonk yeah I’m sorry, your ilk lost the right to call anyone a white nationalist. A) Trump condemned white nationalism in the exact same presser where he said there were “fine people on both sides”, but your news outlets cut that out and Biden ran on it AFTER it was debunked. B) MAGA vote for black representatives in predominantly white areas. C) your hyperbolic-ism is out of control you call black, Hispanic, Asian, gay, and trans MAGA white supremacists. Your words hold no power.

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      This is completely asinine. Look at the cabinet.

      Bad faith actor spitting propaganda. Don’t waste the effort.

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          Ah yes, fully what I meant! Oh no, you got me! I’m so wrong! Omg, I feel so bad now. :(

          Please don’t waste your time on me, troll!

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              @Fandangalo this is the problem with the left. The Democrat politician and their online and media spokes-holes have gassed up the left so badly, they now hallucinate the motivations of people they’ve never met. It’s both pitiful and hilarious to see. You’d think the fact that not a single prediction they’ve made about their political opponents has come true that they would have dropped their news sources by now 🤷‍♂️

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              You’re so right! You TOTALLY care about facts.

              And I know you’re a big boy who must say the last word. :( Should I stop?

    • kinther@lemmy.worldOP
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      A lot of speculation on your part without any evidence to the contrary. If you want to engage in good faith dialogue, be prepared with sources and not personal opinions.

      Also your username in itself is a reference to white nationalism, so…

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        @kinther you too have zero evidence that the dreaded white nationalists are everywhere. You’ve been gaslit into thinking anyone who takes pride in national identity is a dangerous Nazi. It’s common in every nation for patriots to hang flags of their national pride. Don’t see you wagging your finger at Mexicans nor Sudanese, nor Chinese. 😂

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      Source this out for me. Because atheists are like 1% of the US population at least. There are more white national Christians at your local mega churches than white atheists in the county.

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      Christians are anti-racist BY NATURE. There are very few actual white nationalists and zero with any political power, despite what you’ve been told via the hyperbolic Democrat rhetoric and their paid online spokespersons and former mainstream news outlets.

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        Christians are anti-racist BY NATURE

        well, this much at least used to be true historically. back 2000 years ago, when christianity was invented, it was normal that each ethnic group had their own religion. i.e. a god represented an ethnicity, instead of an idea.

        zoroastrianism, later judaism and christianity tried to change that by making god represent an idea, instead of an ethnic group. you could say it’s the transition from ethnics to ethics.

        they welcomed everyone who shared the same ideals as them, (including strangers and foreigners), and that changed the world. it was basically an anti-racist movement and one that tried to focus on intellectual insights and deep convictions instead of birthplace and color of skin.

        it is in this context particularly funny that white nationalists are using christianity as a reason for their racism. because that’s literally the opposite of what christianity was invented to do.

        i’m well aware that christianity has enshittified a lot in the modern age and that it’s nothing but an empty, hollow word now. just saying.

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          Pray tell, how is Deuteronomy 23 not a racist text? If you think the Abrahamic tradition has always been one of inclusion and transcendence of ethnic differences, boy you couldn’t be more wrong.

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        Dude has a username of stormbringer, is trying to deflect for the Nat-C’s and has a comment history of nothing but removed by mod. Gonna go head and block that guy and move on haha.

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    Religious participation is plummeting as the compassionate and reasonable people disassociate from Christianity

    The right is splintering, and the Kirk shooter being a neonazi shows this

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      This sounds like good news but they currently hold power. This is when they lash out the hardest.

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              I bet you also call anyone over the age of 18 a boomer too? It must be so hard having to deal with multiple points of view, and that not everyone fits into the little boxes we need to make your brain work.

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                  I am not. I am not even close to being a boomer. Not that it should matter, as the idea that generational birth would inform my or anyone elses values is pretty weird. You know that TV show the Witcher? Well, one of the producers for the show said that it was so badly written, because the complex nature of the stories would confuse Americans.

                  When a series is made for a huge mass of viewers, with different experiences, from different parts of the world, and a large part of them are Americans, these simplifications not only make sense, they are necessary. It’s painful for us, and for me too, but the higher level of nuance and complexity will have a smaller range, it won’t reach people. Sometimes it may go too far, but we have to make these decisions and accept them.

                  At the time I thought, he was wrong. But seeing you all now, its hard to disagree. Most of you are really incapable of seeing the larger picture, and cant follow cause and effect chains for longer than one instance. Too much tiktok and putting feelings of reality. You say them and they say them, but the reality is that theres multiple groups within groups all working independent of each other. Not even MAGA is all just one thing. The most obvious divide there being to release the Epstein files or not. But you all cherry pick each of the groups, for why the whole is the worst. They do it, you do it, and its all just one giant mess of excuses for being cunts to each other all the time. Its not even about winning anymore, its just about the game. About being nasty, and making someone else feel like shit.

                  And Im sorry, but thats just sad.

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    Maga is Christian in name only. If hell is real, they’re all going to hell because nothing they do has anything to do with Christ’s teachings.

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      Christianity is an authoritarian death cult, maga are perfectly in line with what the religion really is.

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      This. They would never dare attend services in non-white churches and would be hostile to newcomers that appear “different” in their own communities. These folks quickly abandon the teachings of Jesus Christ to fight for “racial purity” hands down.

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      Everything you said is true, but the maga label narrows the context unnecessarily. It’s been the Republican MO for decades, and the Democrats have generally presented as less forceful christians. But it’s because it works on the people they target with it.

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      Ironically, MAGA makes me want to believe in christian religion. Bc they would all go straight to the boiler room in hell for eternity.

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        There’s many, including those in dem leadership, who think maga is just a small part of gop and eventually it’ll go away and gop will go back to how it was.

        They don’t want to acknowledge or admit this is what gop has always been

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        One of these will be pilloried and eventually destroyed. The other will blame the prior for all its bad actions, claim innocence and continue onwards

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          Anyone remember the “tea party” and all the people that were suddenly “Independents” after W’s popularity hit the skids? I wonder if it will be like that again?

          The R’s stand up another version of the “tea party”, people go to those rallies and talk about being “independents”…and run right back to the voting booth at the next possible chance to vote Republican, for whatever monster the Republicans find to run after Taco.

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          They are viewed as one in the same by sane people. Both garbage, both deserving of a quick and pitiful end.

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      Dude, the GOP = MAGA.

      The republicans that were around during bush 2 are gone. That party is gone. The problem is that people that consider themselves Republican like the politicians from that era and before, haven’t not realized that the modern GOP is the same in name only.

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        Those Republicans aren’t gone. They’re just Democrats now because the entire spectrum of political discourse in the US has shifted that far right.

        Remember when the Cheneys found themselves on the outs with the Republicans? Their alliance with Dems would have been utterly unthinkable 25 years ago, but look at them now. As Republicans move further right and Democrats keep trying to court “centrist” voters, all they’re doing is moving their party to the right.

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    This is news? … as in something new?

    White Christian America has been promoting this for years

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    This is such an interesting article, thanks for sharing :)

    In general, i’m pro-balkanization mostly because i don’t see a common future for the people in the US anymore, and splitting up the region into smaller communities might have the advantage that people can hold their representatives more directly liable, because they live closer-by.

    There’s lots of paternalistic Daddy talk these days that centers on the need to “protect the American people.”

    It would be good if the government actually protected the american people from economic hardship. A quarter of americans can’t find jobs who cover life’s needs, and the situation is gonna get much worse over the next 10 years due to automation and AI.

    In that sense, implementing a universal basic income would be good, though i’m not sure what the conservative speakers had in mind with that.

    According to most reports, his underlying message was reflected in a reckless refrain heard throughout the conference: “You can just do things!”

    You might have to.

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      If the USA will split up in the evangelical right and liberal left then you’ll end up with one super power, now unburdened by the anchor weight of the red states, and one theocratic third world banana republic dictatorship that will be unable to feed its own population

      At this point, is any red states even able to take care of itself without federal support?

      Either way, I’m all for it too, let these antisocial religious idiots suffer in their own little north korea corner, but be sure they won’t get any nukes as they’re very Apocalypse culty

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        Will there be refugee programs for those of us in red states? The second you give these fuckers Gilead, they’ll start culling LGBT people and life will get a lot worse for anyone with the wrong amount of melanin in their skin.

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        I imagine Texas, maybe, but it’s a gas station at that point I’d imagine as things that are different to that would probably want to leave.

        A lot of everywhere else would be a whole mess with progressive cities being screwed by the rest of the state with many of them leaving before the borders close and those that couldn’t being trapped in hell.

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        Part of the problem is that the divide is more urban vs rural than state by state. We might end up with dozens of city states with all the tech and money, but none of the staples of life and vast tracts of impoverished rural thocracies that can only survive by selling food and raw materials to the city states.

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    Remember when they put out a document that told us that they were going to do this, and exactly how, and people ignored it or called it “propaganda”?

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    Makes me recall when calling out “Trump’s white America” apparently outraged some people in investing forum. Maybe those didn’t like their covers blown.