Following Charlie Kirk’s assassination and the Trump administration’s promise to go after the “radical left” a study showing most domestic terrosim is far-right was disappeared.
Archived: https://archive.is/Ow3FE
This is being done by the “facts don’t care about your feelings” people?
Stop Covid testing! It’s making our numbers go up! - Trump, 2020
Dipshits
So, hear me out. According to horseshoe theory…
You’re probably being sarcastic here, but just to clarify, horseshoe theory is nonsense invented by centrists. Take Kirk for example. The left hated him for being a terrible human being. Groypers hated him for not being a terrible enough human being. Superficially the same, but trying to accomplish vastly different outcomes.
horseshoe theory is nonsense invented by centrists
That’s just what a person simultaneously on the Far-Left and Far-Right would want you to believe!
The left hated him for being a terrible human being. Groypers hated him for not being a terrible enough human being.
A bit more seriously, it wasn’t “Groypers” who hated him quite so much as a particular set of far-right slacktivists who were jealous of his success and wanted in on his grift. If there is a single person who might have been held directly responsible for the Kirk shooting (other than the shooter himself), it was Nick Fuentes - who just so happened to be front row center filming when Kirk got-got.
I’ve seen conservatives compare Kirk to MLK, but I think the more accurate comparison would be Tupac.
horseshoe theory is nonsense invented by centrists.
It’s not nonsense, it’s an observation that as people become more politically extreme, they become defined more by their extremism than their ideology.
“Centrist” is a logical fallacy anyway. Nobody declares themselves a “centrist”, there are right and wrong answers to political questions and it isn’t going to be “in between”.
go on
You’re going to have to explain how this applicable in detail before I hear you out.
If you go far enough to the right, I’m told that you come out the other side as a Leftist.
And since the Groyper was to Charlie Kirk’s right? And Charlie Kirk was the most far-right figure that was politically palpable to national media? And also, this guy was some middle-class shitkicker from Utah with poisoned internet brain who we can hallucinate any kind of ideology we want onto?
Defacto Leftist. QED. Also, transgender. Muslim. Communist. Atheist. An illegal immigrant. Some combination of Russian and Chinese. Whatever the scary thing of the current news cycle happens to be.
If you go far enough to the right, I’m told that you come out the other side as a Leftist.
So all of these republicans that are doing shitty, shitty, things (like murder and pedophilia) are just far-leftists that took the horseshoe roller coaster? That is fucking hilarious.
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world is being satirical, but this is a genuine and dangerous thought process for rightists. Every time one of their own practices what they preach and commits a violent atrocity, that person is automatically a “leftist.” The reason they can never provide any definition for “leftism” is because they have no idea. To them, leftism is “everything bad” and “anything bad” is automatically leftism. It’s a catch-all bogeyman term for political out-groups that can’t be easily sorted into skin color, sexuality, or genitalia.
I recognized the name, but I couldn’t remember which way it went that I remembered it. I really wish they had tags for users on sh.itjust.works. That would solve a lot.
like the assassination of the Hortmans or attempted murder of the Pelosis
One of the funniest moments after J6 was the real-time shift from all the right-wing AM Radio Heads insisting their movement had been infiltrated by Antifa to them cheering it on and calling the rioters patriots.
Shame Biden didn’t put the whole movement in the grave when he had them on the ropes. But that’s Weimar Liberalism for you.
Well, according to the horseshoe theory that (right of) centrists love so much, yes.
So all of these republicans that are doing shitty, shitty, things (like murder and pedophilia) are just far-leftists that took the horseshoe roller coaster?
Horseshoes aren’t circles. The left and right sides are disconnected except for the one path between them, which to me would imply that one must abandon one side to reach the other. In other words, that theory sounds dumb, or alternatively, only sounds smart if you don’t think about it much.
It feels like you are shoehorning the horseshoe theory in.
If I wanted to shoehorn something in, I’d use Fish Hook theory as its got better leverage.
They’re trying to rewrite history/truth because they wanna push the “left wingers are domestic terrorists” thing so bad rather than admit right wingers are just pieces of shit lmao
If only there were another historic event/group that would be make a good comparison.
OH WAIT
Historic photo of first clinical trial of Right Guard deordorant.
Our country is founded on “terrorism”. Ask the British.
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That’s so perfectly typicsl for the right.
It’s really very simple - if the evidence shows that one of their beliefs is wrong, then their principles dictate that they have no choice but to… bury the evidence.
Not solely a right tactic. You also see this with product studies sponsored by big corporations.
Sort of.
I mean - yes - corporations do it, but for them it’s a simple business strategy. It’s not a matter of whether they want to believe it or not - it’s just that that information getting out would hurt their profits and nothing matters more than their profits.
But for right-wingers, it’s some sort of weird cognitively dissonant delusional dogma thing - like if they can successfully hide the evidence to the contrary, that’ll somehow make their beliefs actually true. They’ll be able to face the new day, confident that their beliefs are true, because after all, nobody can prove otherwise, right?
I think there are those people for sure, but this instance seems more in line with what the corporations are doing. I doubt the DOJ and the people responsible for this decision care one way or the other about the reality of the situation. They care about what hurts their “profits” which in this case isn’t money so much as political capital.
Fascism and Corporatism is the same ideology. Thanks Mussolini.
… so the right…
Well, “study” is already such a radical-left, woke concept! Like all those “studies” about vaccines. True MAGA Patriots go by gut feeling and by other things that are also produced in the guts!
You know if we actually wanted to get rid of these people it would be really easy. All we have to do is release some deadly but preventable disease. Then encourage everyone to get vaccines.
The problem with covid is that it wasn’t really deadly for most people. So they got sick and were probably miserable but they never learnt their lesson.
A friend of mine, always with a non optimal immune system, had planned a wedding anniversary vacation to Mexico in 2009 but refused to get a shot against the Mexican Flu…
Within a week of his vacation he got infected with the Mexican Flu, which by then was a pandemic… (the western world almost forgot about this one) He quickly was transported to an ER in his home city, tubes sticking out of him everywhere, no one allowed to visit him beyond the airlock… Eventually he recovered but it took at least a year to feel sort of healthy. Claimed he regretted not getting the H1N1 (Mexican Flu) vaccine.
He got a flu-shot a year after, but after the 2nd year he refused “if I get one I get a stuffed nose for a full month”.
When I reminded him of not learning a lesson from the Mexican Flu, he claimed it wasn’t that bad…
Almost had no proper recollection of being in emergency care with tubing all over his body…Year 5 after his H1N1 adventure he had been without flu shots for a while, got another flu, was badly ill for 6 weeks, lost his job because of it… Tried to convince himself it was a younger worker who stole his job…
We broke contact after a while where it was clear he was willfully spiraling downward into a black hole of denial and blaming others.
So, yeah, folks like that do not learn a lesson, not even if they end up very ill and it having lasting effects on their life, there is a pressing need to find another person to lay blame on.
You should reconnect with them to see if they are now blamimg immigrants for their situation.
P values are woke. The IRB is the deep state. Data is biased for lefties.
If they knew what any of those things were they’d say it.
On brand.
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“The facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd continues to hate facts.
I have no words honestly. Ever since the Kirk shooting, things are spiralling further down and getting to a point of no return. I think war is going to erupt soon between fascist far-right groups and everyone else. Not just in the U.S., but in Canada, too.
its not going to be a war because the left refuses to fight. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a genocide though.
Just cause I don’t need to jerk off a gun to buy a sandwich doesn’t mean I don’t own, or know how to shoot a gun.
you jerk off guns? guns have penises?
Don’t confuse not being an ammo sexual with not fighting.
Guns and ammo aren’t really even part of the problem. The left’s complete lack of motivation to fight with any effective means whatsoever is. They’ve been convinced impotent action like protesting is going to get them somewhere when it isn’t. Most still believe they’re actually going to be able to vote in fair elections in the future. Their naivete is the problem.
Towing ICE vehicles, blocking their driveways, and swarming ice raids with too many people to control is ineffective?
It’s true many people stay asleep until things are forced on them. But that goes for both sides. That’s why we talk about activation and activists. Holding signs has never been about persuading the bad guys to stop being bad guys. It’s about activating more people.
I’m afraid you might be right. Although I think that some specificities of canadian culture might help us or at least slow down those changes.
I dunno. Hate groups have become much more bolder and appearing in public spaces. Have their own podcasts and their own media networks (Rebel News and Ezra Levant, etc.) They’re also forming militias, training for combat and firearm use, and even infiltrating the military forces to recruit new members. Source Source 2 Bands with allegiances to these groups have also produced music with hate speech and racist lyrics, talking about bringing back gas chambers, etc. This is no joke.
And we’ve got… uh, legions of angry Québécois.
If we delete and hide the evidence does it really exist?
What scares me is that Trump did this with Arctic temperature data
Just stop testing
I was gonna say, this was something they already tried in his first term during covid.
The lack of serious backlash, outrage, or even general coverage of the insanity and facism that’s coming out of the current administration by the media is pretty concerning.
It feels like everyone is just running with it, and I have a hard time beleiving that many people are OK with all of this.
I feel exactly the same. When TACO says he’s going to lower drug prices 1200% and nobody pushes back or he threatens a news agency and they just say ok. Like fitting people for just saying what Kirk said, while he was celebrated for it just blows me away. No fight at all, just rolling over so easy. Only Harvard seemed to put up a fight.
I feel ya, you keep thinking that there is no way this is real, and yet it is
Down the memory hole…
There’s a West Point study that had it’s link changed so that news articles referencing it got a 404 error. It still exists, but it has to be searched for directly to be found.
https://ctc.westpoint.edu/terrorist-groups/violent-far-right-terrorism/
If anyone wants to see it.
Edit: y’know what, here‘s more just in case anyone wants them before they disappear.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/u-s-sees-300-violent-attacks-inspired-far-right-every-year
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9335287/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35236192/
https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states
Feelings are their facts.
And they vote in support of each other.
It’s really annoying
