I haven’t played 4, but I played 1, 2, and a bit of the presequel or whatever it was called. They were essentially all the same game. Run, shoot, run, shoot, hear vaguely off-color joke, run, shoot. Is there any particular reason to bother with an overpriced remake of the same old game? Is there a reason for worrying about 4KUHD textures on a game where the aesthetic is cartoony? If you’re a 9 year old who’s never played, and it’s all on mom’s dime, I could see being tricked into buying it by the advertisers, but why is anyone else excited about it?
Started with 2, liked it, hated 3, now playing 4 since yesterday with a friend and gameplay wise it has a bunch of changes/improvements. So if someone enjoys the gameplay its good. I mean cod and battlefield and fifa are also nearly the same game every time ;)
Yeah, you won’t hear us defending those games either ;)
Any interest I had in the game, which was already fairly minimal, was completely obliterated when the price was announced.
I played the hell out of the first Borderlands (including New Game+ across all expansions), but promptly bounced off 2 & Pre-Sequel because it literally just felt like more of the same and I was already sated.
BL3 and now BL4 are literally just more of the same, but with ever increasingly more egregious monetisation.
2 was good because of the Handsome Hack commentary.
I think that was the one that started in an ice zone, if I remember correctly? I literally couldn’t get past it because I find that aesthetic quite boring…
The ice zone (Southern Shelf) is only the very beginning of the game, you reach more interesting areas after defeating the first major boss, Captain Flynt.
30 seconds of fun repeated, the golden rule. The games fun as fuck.
I have accepted reality and not purchased the game.
Thanks for the heads up Bobandy.
I accepted and just didn’t buy it to begin with.
Was going to say… Who is out there buying games way outside their machines’ specs? Seems pretty straightforward.
I do get a little annoyed at the folks angry at BL4 using a higher end engine. Like, it does look a lot better than previous iterations. That engine upgrade wasn’t for nothing.
There are a ton of looter shooters floating around that aren’t using the Unreal 5 engine. Just play one of those instead. Hell, go back and play BL1. I’m pretty sure that thing runs on a toaster.
This game does into the twenties on a freaking 4070 at 1440 on high settings and doesn’t even get 60 at medium settings
Now let’s take a look at the “recommended specs” Randy put out there
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 / AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT / Intel Arc B580
Sorry but when in the world is that even remotely acceptable that you consider last Gen was outside machine specs when the developers said sure two generations ago is perfectly fine, which btw, holy crap it’s not.
I have a 3090 in a 7800x3d box with 64 gb ram and I had to drop from 7680x2160 to 3840x1080 to get decent framerates. I get better performance in Star Citizen. After a few CTD’s I just went ahead and got a refund.
There’s a difference between a game being way outside of your specs because it’s graphically very advanced and your hardware is old, and a game just being unoptimized slop that expects its users to deal with by throwing higher specs at a fixable problem.
I have a brand new 5070ti that can play all kinds of UE5 games with much better graphics than BL4 at 4k resolution with ray tracing at a decent frame rate without relying on frame gen. And I’m in the top few percentiles here.
After the borderlands 3 trainwreck it seems weird that people are apparently buying BL4
From what I hear from people actually able to play the game, it’s better than 3.
Something like:
2 > 4 > 1 > 3 > Pre-Sequel
I honestly don’t know what this “trainwreck” talk is. BL3 was passable. I didn’t like the antagonists, but the game played fine if purples dropped way too much and the new guns weren’t great. People make it seem like it was the Worst Game Ever and I don’t get it. The pre-sequel was hot garbage, but 3 was fine.
there’s no nuance in anything anymore. you can’t just say “oh this isn’t really for me, honestly.”
you have to write 18 paragraphs about the fall of the video game industry because of this one game and how its hot trash, kills newborns while they sleep, etc.
It’s hard to consider an 81 on OpenCritic to be a trainwreck. People tend to buy games that review well, especially when it’s a co-op shooter with basically no competition.
bl3 is a fine game. its just critics of it are so very vocal that nobody feels like saying they like it.
Damn I had to look that up cause it seemed unbelievable. I am shocked it reviewed that well. It just seemed so awful to me.
Am I so out of touch?? No, the children are.
Nah, that game’s great. The writing’s not good, especially for the villains, but people like that game because it’s good.
You aren’t out of touch. Even the worst games don’t get that poor of a review. When you job depends on being on their side, it turns out you can’t voice an honest opinion.
Is this not the third tabloid style headline here about essentially the same thing?
Well it shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone, but Randy Pitchford is really good at providing ammo for these types of headlines. Guy needs to learn to keep his mouth shut sometimes.
It’s 100% an astroturfing campaign. Doesn’t matter if it looks good or bad, it’s still getting awareness out there about the game which generates clicks and probably makes more money than the game itself.
That would be hard to believe, because the game already conservatively made tens of millions of dollars in a few days.
All this stuff sounds like Randy Pitchford building out his personal brand.
I wish anything involving Pitchford was not reported on (at all).
Countdown to him getting fired in 3…2…3…4…8…49…
Because companies ultimately seem to love leaders that are toxic these days.
I could be wrong, but doesn’t he own the company?
He wasn’t the only founder and Embracer bought them in 2021. Later TakeTwo acquired the studio when Embracer had to restructure. They operate under 2k now so he can most surely be fired.
Also probably why he is even more of a cocky cunt nowadays. He already cashed out.
I worked for Take-Two. The bankers that run that company absolutely see the world the way Randy does. Fuck’em.
Never bought any of the Borderlands games and probably never will.
weird flex but okay
That’s okay, I love being weird.
1 was a flawed revolution and had great dlc. 2 was … A very clear sign of stagnation but has one of the greatest badguys in multiplayer gaming.
There were a few interesting moments and side stories and unique characters after that, but for example, the transitory moment of seeing Ashley Burke come alive as Tiny Tina was once in a lifetime chance that you had to live through in that year/era. Going back now, it’s not really that special since everything is derivative and we live in the future.
Glad you enjoyed the games, I suppose. But I never really cared for the Borderlands games and reading how Pitchford is behaving makes me not want to even try the games.
Guys who wear bowties are not smart, but desperately need people to think they are.
What french fuckin year is it where ANYONE feels the NEED to wear a bowtie?! You can just wear your boxers as a neckerchief if you like…
Bowties are fine for formal (social) occasions like weddings and parties. Wearing them around every day is weird. Wearing them to work is (generally) weird.
Committing to wearing them everywhere and STILL buying pre-tied ones and not learning how to tie them yourself all while being a mega douche is cringe af.
Yeah, learn to tie them if you’re going to make it part of your personality.
Finally, someone agrees with me on the fucking bow tie thing.
Love the tie. Wear the tie. Talk about the tie. If you can’t tie the tie but you do the first 3, I can’t respect you.
I present to you bill nye as a counter argument
Honestly, I think he might actually fall into the category of cares more about appearing smart than being smart. Not to say he’s dumb, but I do get the sense the reputation is very important to him
i think it’s more about him having gotten used to it when he played a character on a children’s programme. he also has the face for it, which randall does not.
Celebrities with distinct looks almost by definition have to be exceptions to this discussion. Wearing a giant clock necklace to work would absolutely be weird unless it were Flavor Flav.
I have come to accept that this is a PR campaign to plaster the name everywhere all over social media and let it worm its way into currently pissed off gamers’ heads for a few months down the line when they’ve calmed down and inevitably buy the fucking thing.
Pitchford is a slimeball. Rarely has a man who is allegedly not an insurance or used-car salesman given off such nakedly scummy vibes.
We need to stop giving free publicity to this little marketing man, and to this poorly optimised, expensive game.
I don’t think there’s anything that well thought out, and it’s just someone who takes things personally and cant resist blurting out their thoughts.
Since after what he said my thinking was even if my friends beg me to get the game on discount I wont because of how personally irritated the comments have made me.
Not casting aspersions towards you personally, but we all know how gamer boycotts go generally. As in, they don’t. People cave and buy the games anyway, once they’re over the initial outrage. This is 100% marketing.
Those people buy games regardless. But this feels like a personal challenge of being called out. Like the face popping out and going “yeah I knew you couldn’t resist bitch”. Usually there isn’t that psychological push back being put out there. It’s not needed.
We’ll see how it comes out in the sales figures, I suppose! I would like to believe you’re right but I just have absolutely not a jot of faith that people will stick to their outrage. 😂
Welp, that’s what I did. Got my money back. I’ll buy it when it’s $19.99.
I was going to do that originally but now I’m never playing it.
I’m not going to punish the entire development team just because he’s a tool.
I’m enjoying the game. And yeah, a lot of cool folk work there. Sure a few suck, but there are a lot of neat humans that poured their heart into this game.
I also haven’t had a single issue on a two year old mid-tier laptop so i can’t empathize with the fuss over performance. I’m sure there are older machines out there that wont run it at 1000FPS or whatever.
At the end of the day, it’s a game. Calm tf down and play something else rather than raise your blood pressure over something so relatively trivial.
Deep breath people. It’s a game. Support it or don’t. Edginess not required for this decision.
They got paid already and most of them will be laid off or moved to different projects by the time the games is $20.
It’s not that he’s a tool it’s at the game it has poor performance. And being a tool is just a guarantee that issue will never be fixed.
So in a way I kind of do blame the team, they must have done testing they know what the performance is like.
You should get it for free elsewhere. Don’t give this asshole your money.
Denuvo :'(
And Empress is gone, though they were pretty toxic so that’s no big loss for me.
That’s an option, but there were a lot of people involved in making the game. I’m not a fan of collective punishment. They most probably did their best, he’s just a shit spokesperson.
I played the first one but after that the formula felt pretty samey and I was bored of it. Would a fourth Borderlands game even be good if it wasn’t laggy?
Don’t let the name fool you, it’s the sixth game.
You got it!
They’re using a poorly made graphics engine and got scammed into implementing malware into their game.
Gearbox was been scummy for a while now. Customers can learn to stop giving them money or can keep putting up with this.
Borderlands 3 kinda sucked it. I realized when I played it that they had hit peak during Borderlands 2.
Eh, the people are dumb as fuck and will keep buying their slop. Just look at Nintendo, one of the most horrible companies out there, releasing the same 5 games over and over again, but the idiots keep buying. They will keep buying their Mario Kart until it’s $200 a month
They destroyed the first update for risk of rain 2 when they bought it as well. They kinda made my favourite game a lot worse
This has been there already with Ubisoft games. It wont end well for the IP and also, the main problem is Randy Pitchford. That problem wont be fixed any time soon.
