I’m just happy to be here

  • missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 years ago

    My first reaction was “ew” and after reading into the reasons I still don’t agree but I respect it. I’m a bit thrown off by there not having been any discussion of this before if it has been “ongoing for months”, though I’m mostly a lurker and maybe I have just missed it.

    It honestly looks and feels so wrong but fuck it we ball I guess.

    • moss@lemmy.worldOPM
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      2 years ago

      I didn’t hold a poll, because unlike other changes we’ve made to this community this does not affect our policy nor ethos. while the community is now being hosted on a different instance, we are running it exactly the same as we did on blahaj.zone.

  • ddplf@szmer.info
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    2 years ago

    See now kids, that’s how the real ones like me do ban evasion.

    Don’t go back to the place. Just wait till the place comes to you.

    • qaz@lemmy.worldMEnglish
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      2 years ago

      Fyi, you were banned on 2024-10-07 due to these comments:

      📞 yo i think its netanyahu callin, you gonna pick up or? Link

      yes Link

      This obviously has nothing to do with 2024 US presidential elections Link

      Don’t worry, I’ll let the ban evasion slide 😉

      • ddplf@szmer.info
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        2 years ago

        I’m aware which of my comments contributed to me being banned, and I know everyone can see them, and I’m not afraid to say that I did nothing that would justify the permban.

        Okay, I get it, these may be considered kind of xenophobic-ish-esque-uhh-not-really, but come on dudes. That’s just banter.

    • EndlessApollo@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 years ago

      Yee i got perma’d from old 196 bc I dared to repost an article about election fraud that got deleted. Admitted it turned out to prob not be real, said I wouldn’t do it again, but nope, I said something against Trump so instant permaban straight from Ada. Good riddance :3

  • Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    2 years ago

    Have you considered not trying to forcibly migrate a community from one instance to another (without community consensus), and instead building a community with its own merits?

    • SoftTeeth@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      People really don’t like it when a single mod decides to make decisions for the whole community without the support of the community.

      That’s why i support taking 196 away from Ada’s control

      • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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        2 years ago

        Did Ada’s actions not have the support of the community or did they not have the support of the mod team? (different things)

        • SoftTeeth@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          Well considering she banned all dissenters it’s pretty hard to guage dissent.

          If the initial rule change announcement is taken as a sample then more than half of those comments were removed, so based on that it doesn’t seem like Ada has the support of the real community, ahe just kicked out half the community.

    • moss@lemmy.worldOPM
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      2 years ago

      some longstanding issues with how blahaj.zone is run. I’ll elaborate more once the transfer settles down.

      • pixely@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        So you moved the community to another instance without any kind of community consultation (that I can see) and can’t even tell us why? The lack of transparency is a bit concerning.

        • moss@lemmy.worldOPM
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          2 years ago

          the lack of transparency is primarily due to not wanting to burn bridges with anyone. sometimes disagreements should stay private.

          • pixely@lemmy.world
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            2 years ago

            You’re trading off burning bridges against demonstrating that people can trust your judgement, which I think is essential if you expect people to migrate and prevent blowing up the community.

      • henfredemars@infosec.pubEnglish
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        2 years ago

        Aw, that’s a shame. I feel like it reduces instance diversity. With that said, I’m sure you have your reasons. I’m certainly not informed on the subject.

        • moss@lemmy.worldOPM
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          2 years ago

          while I do agree that it reduces instance diversity, due to the size of our community, many small instances were apprehensive about taking our community on. it is unfortunate that Lemmy.world is so centralized, but when it comes to a community of our size it is to our benefit

  • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    I’ve just read the other Post at blahaj.zone and now I want to give you (and your team) some encouragement!

    Lots of People are upset but I’m not one of them. I like 196 for the Vibes and the memes not the Instance. Some People act like the Instance was THE THING why people subscribed. And (at least for me) it was not. It was literally the only Community (I’m aware of) I subscribed to on blahaj.zone.

    And I also agree with you that some Moderation decisions were a bit… Questionable.

    Keep up the good work and don’t let the other Folks drag you down, there is always grumbling when things change! 🌈

  • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    As a long time community member, I hope .world doesn’t defederate from .ml. This instance has always been “reddity”. This community has always been one of my favorites. I’d hate to lose it.

  • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netEnglish
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    2 years ago

    Can someone tell me why we are moving and why I should care?

    I’m too busy spamming shitposts to pay much attention.

  • ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
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    2 years ago

    I see you’re getting a lot of criticism so I felt the need to say I support the decision.

    The idea behind Lemmy is that users can be a part of any instance they want and not be a part of any instance they don’t. The same communities can exist on multiple instances and users can subscribe to all of them, some of them, or none of them. Mods are users too so I see no shame in instance hopping. As a user of Lemmy.ca, literally nothing changes for me besides the words after the “@”

    To emphasize how little things changed for me, I was actually already subscribed to this community before the announcement was made. I will continue to stay subscribed to the other community on lemmy.blahaj.zone as well. Nothing has changed for me and my subscribed feed.

    • Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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      2 years ago

      If they dont want to be mods under a specific instance, thats fine. Whats not fine announcing the community will be archived and locked, move to (insert instance here) for this community going forward, with functionally zero warning or even a damned poll about it

      • ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
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        2 years ago

        You can create your own community on lemmy.blahaj.zone! There’s nothing preventing you from doing that. Lemmy is designed specifically for this scenario. If you do create one, I’d subscribe to it! It doesn’t matter to me where the content is coming from as long as it’s content I like. I’ll subscribe to a dozen versions of 196. Nothing changes for me.

        • Blaze (he/him)@lemmy.cafeEnglish
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          2 years ago

          You can create your own community on lemmy.blahaj.zone!

          That’s seriously underestimating the time it takes to create a new community if the old community isn’t on board. !football@lemmy.world recently moved to !Football@lemm.ee , but the mods made sure to ping everyone to inform them of the change.

          Not allowing members to take over the former community seems power tripping.

        • itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          2 years ago

          Except the 196 community is being squatted on with a permanent redirect to here. I can respect not wanting to mod on a specific instance, but forcing everyone to move (over stepping down as mod and setting up shop somewhere else), especially out of the blue without consulting with the community, feels pretty shitty. The mods personally might not enjoy the instance’s moderation policy, but I think large parts of the community do! At least leave the space for the people who don’t want to migrate

          • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world
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            2 years ago

            Then they can literally make their own Community in minutes. This is the strength of the Fediverse!

            Moss and the Mod-Team are the ones to call this shot and they did.

            • itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              2 years ago

              It’s their shot to call to move themselves. Telling everyone else to move feels shitty. I imagine a lot of people will prefer to stay on blahaj, so we’ll likely have to create a c/197 or something. It would’ve been so much easier to just hand over the reigns to someone else, put up a post with “hey, the core mod team is moving, you can find us over here”, and let community members decide which one, or both, communities they feel better about participating in. From the reactions on the blahaj post, not many community members agree with this move.

              • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world
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                2 years ago

                It is also their shot to move the Commnity.

                If there are so many people angry about this, a new community will soon emerge. The only thing “lost” if people over at blahaj.zone create 197 would be the number of subscribers. And when so many people are so upset about the change, you could assume they would willingly flock to this new community. Like People did with !risa@startrek.website and !tenforward@lemmy.world.

                But if this doesn’t happen, it would mean that people are not angry enough to make such a move or just don’t care enough about a change like that. For example, I don’t really care at all. I was already subscribed here and didn’t even notice anything at first. But if they had moved to lemmy.ml (for example), I would have cared enough not to follow and maybe even start my own 196.

                • itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  2 years ago

                  You spot the difference between that comparison and the current case tho, right? Both Startrek communities are still unlocked and flourishing. By all means, make a new 196 on .world if you prefer it. But don’t lock the old one for people who can’t, or don’t want to, move. That’s just petty.

            • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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              2 years ago

              Creating a new community isn’t necessary. Admin could transfer control of the existing one to a new mod team if the current one can’t be arsed running it.

              • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world
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                2 years ago

                Since I just realised that I became a Mod here (when did this even happend? Is there no notification or something?)

                I can ask. But it’s still their choice. Maybe they want to move as much members as possible, maybe they want to keep it as some sort of archive. Maybe this was part of the Deal with Ada? I don’t know. The only thing I can offer you is to ask. Would that be okay?

                • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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                  2 years ago

                  Yeah, I suspect you’re right and that the intent is to bring as much of the existing userbase across as possible, but it’d be nice to know what’s going on. It’s entirely possible they did reach out to people privately and nobody wanted to moderate 196@LBZ, but I doubt it.

                  Whatever the case may be, I would appreciate it if you could get an answer as to why that was the course of action chosen.

        • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          I don’t get why people are so angry. I was subscribed to 196 for the Vibes and The memes not because it is on a specific instance. .__.

          • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
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            2 years ago

            A lot of people were happy with Blahaj being very protective of queer people.

            If it was working well, why break it?

            • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world
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              2 years ago

              Blahaj is still there, though; it’s just the community that’s moving.

              I only know what was written in the post—something about the “jurisdiction” of community mods/admins and instance admins and how hard to punish people.

              Other than that? I don’t know either.

    • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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      2 years ago

      I will continue to stay subscribed to the other community on lemmy.blahaj.zone as well.

      The place the mods said would be taking to “mod only” and thus effectively closed and useless for everyone?