Every time this gets reposted I need to point out that it is spelled: “You are not an anti-imperialist”
English is stupid.
but neither are necessary. someone could just be anti imperialist.
Don’t be an party pooper
What I want to know is, despite the amount of Hexbear brain rot over there why we are still federated with them? It seems really weird to continue to give them platform on our instances.
French:
A beautiful man:
Un <= masculin (A)
Homme <= masculin (Man)
So the adjective should be masculine, right?
But as homme 1) starts with a H and the word does not have nordic descent, it’s not the masculine ‘beaux’ but feminine :
Un bel homme.
But not belle eh, just bel (they obviously sound exactly the same).
Because, it sounds better.
Which language was stupid now again?
It’s crazy humanity can communicate at all.
Stalin says to Kropotkin: “The difference between us is that you’re an aristocrat while I’m from the working class.”
Kropotkin answer: “True, but we also have something in common: We are both class traitors.”At least get the people in the quote right.
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That was Kruschev and China’s Minister of Foreign Affairs.
Based
Man, why did I stumble on this thread after the tankies got deleted
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So many US empire simps here mistake opposition to their evil, and counterproductive diminishment of Americans and Europeans who simp for the empire, as supporting the Russian non-empire who needs to defend itself, and understands fully, despite any absurd propaganda to the contrary, that it needs to defend itself from US empire attempting to demonically diminish it.
Your propaganda bubble means you cannot and will never have nice things, including any climate supporting human sustainability. Heads are so far empire ass, that advising you it stinks up there, only makes you understand it as an order to move to Russia.
lol pootin. RIP BOZO
Simping for any government leadership is just gross. These people don’t actually care about protecting the working class; they just want power, money, and recognition. As soon as you put a human into that role, they corrupt in one way or another. It’s why I clarify that I support the struggling working class under any ruler. The fight is always about them and ensuring they have human rights and a right to self-determination.
Every person I’ve met in my lifetime that lived under communism had nothing good to say about it, and they were all working class. Some pasty white dudes in America don’t know shit about that and never will. They get into a fantasy loop because living under capitalism fucking sucks, and dreaming about something perceived as better is understandable.
I recommend people read Marx and keep trying to unite the working class. Take the good pieces and stop idolizing people. As soon as you idolize a person, you are incapable of being able to identify when they do or say something terrible.
They’re just fascists.
Sorry for your notifications OP, I went through the same thing when I posted this here.
First it was fun watching the argument unfold. Now it’s annoying lol. Thank you, kind stranger.
Should we start a peer-support group?
Sure! Maybe we can be called Survivors of Poking the Campist Hive lmao.
Pro Tipp: turn off notifications; just post a spicy comment and return 6h later to view the carnage
Alas, I’m not sure how to do that here on Kbin.
“America should stop sending bombs to its puppet” is not supporting Russia.
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Ukraine desperately wants those bombs
The government of Ukraine wants those bombs to take control over a territory filled with people they are openly hostile to. The people, like all people, want to live in peace.
Do you really think that this particular bourgeoisie democracy, unlike all the others, represents the people? One that has suspended elections and throws people in prison for “questioning Ukraine’s territorial integrity”?
Every single military action the US has taken since WWII, the US has been acting directly contrary to the interests of the people it claimed to be helping, and every single time the US population gets duped into thinking this time they’re there to help. Why do you think this one is different?
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distract from and ignore the suffering and mountain of corpses
You are the one advocating for more human lives to be sacrificed over some nationalist horseshit. Every bomb we send adds more corpses to the pile. I want peace as quickly as possible.
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The holodomor happened to the USSR during wide-spread crop failure, it’s kinda irrelevent to modern Russia.
The suffering and death in Ukraine will only increase under Russian subjugation
There will be similar amounts of suffering and death under the other bourgeoisie democracy run by a literal billionaire. Either would be far, far better for the people than what they are experiencing now.
Putin be brought in front of the Hague and publicly hanged for his crimes against humanity
Yup, same with Zelensky, Biden, Trump, and most every other leader who could stop this and doesn’t.
The only way to put an end to it is for Russia to lose
No, the only way to put an end to it is peace.
Way to downplay the self determination of smaller countries! Ukraine allies with the US for the same reason Vietnam often sides with the US over China: the empire next door is a bigger problem than the empire on the other side of the planet. The US is the lesser evil in those situations, especially in Ukraine’s case.
The alternative is being an actual puppet to an empire that sees you as nothing but a buffer and a breadbasket. Being under the thumb of a reformed empire that inflicted famine and genocide on you and other neighbors. The ethnic Russian makeup of post Soviet countries isn’t a mistake, but an example of deliberate imperialism by that Russian empire.
In terms of this disrespect, Ukraine got of easy compared to countries like Kazakhstan. I don’t care how much you complain about landowners in Ukraine, I dare you to defend the population control and environmental destruction there as anything less than imperialist cruelty.
The Soviet Union was a red-washed Russian empire, not some model system that was much different than the liberty-clad American empire. It was not made of equal states, but a dominant power squeezing the rest. Nationalistic bullshit is what the selfish turn to when capitalism runs its course, and that’s what this tankie bullshit is: counter-revolutionary garbage where nothing fundamentally changes. The answers will never be that easy.
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The ethnic Russian makeup of post Soviet countries isn’t a mistake, but an example of deliberate imperialism by that Russian empire.
Indeed. it’s the result of genocide. A genocide still ongoing in Ukraine as we speak. Which is something we should be mentioning a lot more
But… But… Nazis or some shit, its perfectly fine since they are all Nazis for sure. We will save Ukraine with this 3 day operation.
“Russia should stop sending bombs to its puppet” is not supporting the US.
I concur. Sadly I do not live in Russia and can’t call up Putin and tell him to knock it off.
That makes it evem more wild that you seem to support him.
You know very well that Putin will knock you off the window if you said that.
Give me his number and I’ll call him. I hear he’s doing things in Georgia, lets see if he comes up to SC to throw me out a window.
“America should stop sending bombs to its puppet” is not supporting Russia.
It’s like saying lobbying to continue the usage of fossil fuel is not supporting oil company.
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lobbying to continue the war
Hmm i wonder who started and prolonging the war…
Must be those merican.
It is when those bombs are actively helping to stop Russian imperialism.
Those bombs are blowing up people in Ukraine, statistically in America’s conflicts, it’s like 10 civilians to 140 for every “enemy combatant”, and I doubt the Ukrainian conscripts are more disciplined and trained than America is.
Do you genuinely believe America has any interest at all in improving conditions for the people of Ukraine? Has that been true one single time since WWII?
There’s 3 parties here who can unilaterally end the war that has killed or wounded over a million and displaced millions more, America, Russia, and Ukraine.
Oh, how can Ukraine end the war without essentially giving up and letting Russia win territories through this imperialistic war?
Its only choice is how many of it’s kids they want to send into a meatgrinder trying to hold onto the Russian-speaking territories whose people it didn’t seem to like very much before the invasion, and it seems to like even less now.
There’s no realistic way for Ukraine to push Russia out, let alone deal with the resulting insurgency. Same applies if Russia tried to hold the Ukrainian-majority territories. Actually they’re probably in for an insurgency either way given their conduct.
Lots of words for saying “they can’t”
No they absolutely can end the war by agreeing to a peace deal giving up the territories Russia occupies. They came close to agreeing on as much 2 years ago, with Russia ceding much of the territory they occupied at the time, before Boris Johnson changed the equation by pledging unlimited support. Now here we are 2 years later, over a million dead and wounded, UXO littered across the country, entire cities leveled by fighting, the right-wing even more entrenched in both countries, and nothing to show for it.
because capitulation always works … i forget, didn’t we try that before? oh yeah in the 40s… that worked out great
you can’t let the bully get what they want otherwise they won’t stop
Mate, the only thing you have to say is that Ukraine is getting fucked over left and right. Instead you find the strangest ways to twist that into apologizing for Russian imperialist interests.
statistically in America’s conflicts, it’s like 10 civilians to 140 for every “enemy combatant”, and I doubt the Ukrainian conscripts are more disciplined and trained than America is
Surely you understand the very different nature of America’s recent conflicts (air strikes on small numbers of militants living among civilians) to the war in Ukraine (frontlines where civilians have been evacuated and every building has been destroyed). Or taking your numbers of 10 to 140 civilians for every enemy combatant, are you suggesting that Ukrainian soldiers have killed on the order of a million to ten million civilians as “collateral damage”?
Do you genuinely believe America has any interest at all in improving conditions for the people of Ukraine?
I believe that is irrelevant to the Ukrainians. They are happy to get any support they can to help fight off their would-be oppressors. Whether or not America is interested in improving the conditions for the people of Ukraine, it only takes one look at Russia and then at the EU to see where the common people have a better standard of living.
There’s 3 parties here who can unilaterally end the war that has killed or wounded over a million and displaced millions more, America, Russia, and Ukraine.
Of those three, only Russia can end the war unilaterally with no downsides to any party. Ukraine can only end the war unilaterally if they want to be subjugated under Russian oppression. I fail to see how America could end the war unilaterally. Even if they cut all military support to Ukraine, Ukrainians will keep fighting because they do not want to be ruled by Russia.
“Trump just wants to save America”. That’s what you sound like.
I am under no impression that Putin wants to save Ukraine. I am observing that what is happening is far worse than if they had agreed to the peace deal they had in 2022, and far far worse than if they simply enforced the minsk II agreement.
It would have been better if Russia had abided by the Minsk II agreement. Better yet, if the Budapest memorandum had been enforced and Russia not invaded its sovereign neighbor to begin with. But power is the only language Russia speaks.
Not clear how Russia didn’t abide by Minsk. Ukraine/west are the ones who didn’t abide. You’re saying running out of patience is “not abiding”?
None of which is the primary reason people criticize ml instances, and you know it.
The tankies are out in full force in this thread.
You can tell the election is over because liberals have switched from “you must full throatedly give your support to genocidal fascists because they’re the lesser evil” back to “how dare you give any critical support to the lesser evil, you tankie!”
Happens every four years
Kinda hard to simp for Russia when I can feel Putin constantly breathing down my neck.
Yeah well, kind of hard to simp for the Democrats when their bombs keep killing my family members
How about not simping for anyone? Why is it so hard for .ml users to understand that two different entities can be bad at the same time? Also a quick look at your profile makes me think you’re American, and thus not being threathened by democrats.
Where have I “simped” for Putin? Why is it so hard for blahaj.zone users to actually be honest?
And no, I’m not American, but I have lost family to the Democrats. So fuck you.
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You people are children
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(in a similar vein)
There is a third choice, where you say both are bad (ie. anarchists and pure marxists). But most people on lemmy.ML are Marxist Leninists (ML) who simp for authotarian states that call themselves socialist, like Russia, China, and North Korea.
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that’s the craziest part to me! fuckin’ tankies acting like a hyperfascist regime is their ally is bonkers
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What country is that?
China, North Korea etc
Oh right I’m on the transphobic instance based in genocide land. I keep forgetting to block you bigots on new accounts.
huh? I’m a bigot because I say China and North Korea use the aesthetics of socialism to hide their atrocities?
Reminder: “US bad” is not a valid argument for “Russia good”
*confused tankie noises
Yes, it’s literally non sequitur. And a very popular propaganda move: [country A] is good because [country B] is worse. In fact, it usually is not even relatively good if there’s a need for such ‘argument’
